Unemployment vote today

[Patranus]

Sure you can. Pay them a decent and fair wage. If you disagree, I'll hire you to clean my toilet for a dollar a day (ongoing), and then you can talk about what they should accept.

I don't need a job cleaning your toilet and I cannot hire someone for less than minimum wage.

 

[Craig234]

I wonder if the "progressives" will blame BOOOSH for adding another 40 billion to the debt.

January 2009: $10,699,804,864,612.13
Today: $13,242,893,842,328.75
(+$2,543,088,977,716.62 in 18 months)

How many jobs were lost under the Bush presidency, and from the financial crisis his policies helped to happen? Then we'll talk about his not having anything to do with the cost.

 

[Craig234]

I don't need a job cleaning your toilet and I cannot hire someone for less than minimum wage.

You just don't have a clue about how the minimum wage protects people from having wages race to the bottom and creating a society of serfs rather than one with a middle class.

 

[Throckmorton]

Not to go off topic but I would hire someone who is unemployed in a second to do some household chores for $3/hour.
(Oh wait, can't do that because of the government - I guess I can't create a job, oh well)

Assuming you could create this $3/hr job, how would this hypothetical person survive on that wage?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Ummm....I linked hundreds of HR jobs above.

Yes, yes you did. All across the country, so I should leave my job I've had for 5 years, established and secure to move to a place where neither of us has a job? And I am sure she'd be the only one applying as well.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Assuming you could create this $3/hr job, how would this hypothetical person survive on that wage?

The internet tough guys would tell you they'd have to learn how to live on that wage, it's possible, many people do it. Etc.... It's pure horseshit and I am done feeding their collective intellectual impotence.

 

[Red Dawn]

Assuming you could create this $3/hr job, how would this hypothetical person survive on that wage?

Think of it as getting paid to case the place.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I was on state unemployment (Michigan) from February 2009 - May 2009. At the beginning of each month, I had to fill out a form that had to contain at least 3 jobs that I had applied for, contact information for each job, and that form was verified by my Unemployment Officer.

On top of that, you have to call in to an automated attendant and press a bunch of buttons to collect your check. Basically, you have to press "1" quite a few times to verify that you're still unemployed, you're still looking for work, and you did not collect any income for that respective time period.

What's the federal system like?

States recevie money from the Feds. There is no direct Federal unemployment check.

 

[Patranus]

Assuming you could create this $3/hr job, how would this hypothetical person survive on that wage?

It beats not working doesnt it.

 

[woolfe9999]

The GOP only worries about paying for programs when they don't want them. When its stuff they actually do want (2x wars, tax cuts, prescription drugs etc) funding is never an issue. It's simply the cover story they use.

Worse hypocrisy still, not only has the GOP voted to spend borrowed money on wars and new entitlements in the recent past, but they have also specifically voted to extend unemployment benefits under Bush without paying for it.

- wolf

 

[Fear No Evil]

The internet tough guys would tell you they'd have to learn how to live on that wage, it's possible, many people do it. Etc.... It's pure horseshit and I am done feeding their collective intellectual impotence.

Lets say your wife is receiving $1000 a month in unemployment benefits. You can feel free to supply the real # if you want. An average job you work ~ 168 hours a month on averge. Thats $5.95 an hour.. With basically no requirement for any work in exchange. You seem to be surviving on that? You still have internet, cars, food on the table, a place to live?

Of course if you BOTH lost your jobs you couldn't maintain your lifestyle.. But then, you could move, as you stated above to where there were some jobs.

 

[StageLeft]

I don't know OP's wife, maybe she is having terrible luck.

I know that two years is 4X as long as they actually paid in, though.

It should be severely qualified if you want to receive money at this point past your 26 weeks that you actually paid in; the rest being gravy. E.g. when you do find work you'll have to pay back via wage garnishment if necessary, 50% of what you got or something like that. Also, if in OP's example him and his wife are not living hand to mouth then she shouldn't get it; that's what spouses are for, aren't they? Only the bottom tiers of society actually need two incomes to make it unless they have a spending addiction anyway.

I've been out of work six months before. It felt like a lifetime. Sucked and was demoralizing Two years is really fvcking absurd, and this is a bad economy but at some point you have to smell the roses and think "Sh*t, it's time I get an edumacation", maybe switch fields. If you have a degree already you can short-track to become a registered nurse in a year, for example.

Nobody has dared come up with a percentage of unemployed who are basically bone-idle tits and just playing xbox all day. There are undoubtedly many, however, who fit the category.

I have no idea how many "deserve" this extension.

 

[spidey07]

Lets say your wife is receiving $1000 a month in unemployment benefits. You can feel free to supply the real # if you want. An average job you work ~ 168 hours a month on averge. Thats $5.95 an hour.. With basically no requirement for any work in exchange. You seem to be surviving on that? You still have internet, cars, food on the table, a place to live?

Of course if you BOTH lost your jobs you couldn't maintain your lifestyle.. But then, you could move, as you stated above to where there were some jobs.

Our unemployment here in KY is the equivalent of a 40 hour week, 10 dollar an hour job. Now tell me who is going to go find a job for 10-20 bucks an hour when they can do nothing at all and get 400+ bucks a week?

Want to have high unemployment? Easy, pay people to be unemployed.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Our unemployment here in KY is the equivalent of a 40 hour week, 10 dollar an hour job. Now tell me who is going to go find a job for 10-20 bucks an hour when they can do nothing at all and get 400+ bucks a week?

Want to have high unemployment? Easy, pay people to be unemployed.

And there's basically zero requirements on that money. I bet you could realistically spend an hour a week fullfilling the requirements for that $10/hr.

 

[drebo]

You just don't have a clue about how the minimum wage protects people from having wages race to the bottom and creating a society of serfs rather than one with a middle class.

Economic classes are a comparison of buying power. Reducing minimum wage does not reduce buying power. At worst, it remains the same. At best, buying power actually goes up because the overall wealth of the nation will go up.

 

[StageLeft]

Our unemployment here in KY is the equivalent of a 40 hour week, 10 dollar an hour job. Now tell me who is going to go find a job for 10-20 bucks an hour when they can do nothing at all and get 400+ bucks a week?

Want to have high unemployment? Easy, pay people to be unemployed.

I believe it tops out around $330/week or something in NY (depending on your prior income) so it sounds similar.

When I had UI in Canada there was also the phone call system. I got pretty good at it with the end, took a few minutes of button pressing each week and that was that.

Coincidentally or not, my unemployment ran for 6 months and I collected exactly 6 months, at the end of which I moved countries and got a job. Pressure had been building but when that UI was about to be up I knew it was time to step it up further and expand my search.

 

[Mursilis]

How the fuck can I look for a job for someone else while doing my job? She's trying like hell, but you won't believe that, and I've stopped caring what heartless fucks like you think or feel.

I love when people demanding entitlements from other people call them names when they don't get what they want, but don't think ill of themselves for demanding entitlements in the first place.

Hey, Sheik Yerbouti, I need some cash - I'm in a tough spot. You said you've got a job - how about sending me some money?
No?
Heartless fuck!!

 

[kalrith]

I just had lunch with a former co-worker. His benefits have run out. He's beside himself afraid because he might have to accept a job offer now. He's turned down several because he would not accept one that paid less that $50 an hour.

This is the problem I see with the overly-extended (IMO) unemployment. The problem isn't that all of the unemployed can't get a job. It's that they can't get a job making enough over their unemployment to make it worth working. Voting no on this bill would've made your former coworker much more likely to accept a job making only $20/hour, whereas the gov't has given him no incentive to do so thus far.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thank you, although you may need to write it in crayon and use pictures to get through to some folks. 1 out of 10 people is unemployed, that's pretty fucking staggering if you think about it. It has nothing to do with lazy, more like greed and fear.

Please don't try to take from these worthless assholes the only good feelings they have, the illusion that their status and position are a reflection of how much they are worth. Under their empty vanity there is a hollow shell and a black hole where there's supposed to be heart. You owe it to them to protect themselves from the ugliness that they are. Inwardly they are profoundly sad, sad beyond imagining. Perhaps one day one whom they call love and family will suffer your wife's fate, and the wool will be pulled from their eyes and they will finally realize they have long long been dead instead of alive. Pride goeth before a fall like November comes before December.

 

[DesiPower]

All done, its clear now.

 

[Hacp]

Assuming you could create this $3/hr job, how would this hypothetical person survive on that wage?

If you're earning 3 dollars an hour you should be rooming with 2 other people and eating rice and beans with the occasional piece of meat every month.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

All done, its clear now.

60 people voted to extend the stealing... go figure

 

[totalnoob]

Congrats to the OP and his bum wife. Tell that lazy ho to stop being a parasite on the rest of us. Few people can find a job equivalent to their old salary in this economy, but there ARE jobs out there...dozens in every Sunday paper. Lower your expectations, take less money than you would like, and stop being a pathetic drain on society.

 

[nick1985]

Congrats to the OP and his bum wife. Tell that lazy ho to stop being a parasite on the rest of us. Few people can find a job equivalent to their old salary in this economy, but there ARE jobs out there...dozens in every Sunday paper. Lower your expectations, take less money than you would like, and stop being a pathetic drain on society.

lol. scathing

 

[Throckmorton]

If you're earning 3 dollars an hour you should be rooming with 2 other people and eating rice and beans with the occasional piece of meat every month.

Full time, that would be under $500 a month. $300 for health insurance, that leaves $200. Subtract $50 a month for food (literally rice and beans) and you're at $150. Good luck finding an arrangement where $150 gets you a place with roommates.