Unemployment vote today

[Exterous]

Enlighten me here as I haven't collected UE in over a couple of decades. Back when I did I had to actively search for work and have proof to collect UE. You don't have to do that now?

I remember two of my unemployed friends talking about the 'verification process' and how it was a joke. All they did was have to say they were actively looking (and they were) and that was it. No verification, no proof required

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I don't think you understand how the economy works. Unemployment is 10%. That means there aren't physically enough jobs for everybody. If you're in that 10% and it's not improving, getting out of it will only happen if someone else loses their job. If the unemployment rate IS improving, getting out of the 10% depends on being one of the few who gets one of the new jobs.

Thank you, although you may need to write it in crayon and use pictures to get through to some folks. 1 out of 10 people is unemployed, that's pretty fucking staggering if you think about it. It has nothing to do with lazy, more like greed and fear.

 

[Sinsear]

Human Resources? pension...health benefits....probably easier to sit around at home and do jack shit though, wondering if they'll extend benefits once again

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I remember two of my unemployed friends talking about the 'verification process' and how it was a joke. All they did was have to say they were actively looking (and they were) and that was it. No verification, no proof required

Yup and they kick back and live high on that 60% of their actual income (at most). People talk out of their ass so much you start to mistake hemorrhoids for lips.

 

[Patranus]

That's simply not true.

Yes it is.

The GOP want for it to be PAID FOR (remember PayGo? LOL)

There is ~500 billion in unspent stimulus funds and that is exactly where the GOP want this money to come from.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

All of you who are claiming she is lazy and just loving not having a job and getting free money are right. You're right, you win. Congrats.

 

[boomerang]

I just had lunch with a former co-worker. His benefits have run out. He's beside himself afraid because he might have to accept a job offer now. He's turned down several because he would not accept one that paid less that $50 an hour.

He's part of a group of us that gets together usually for breakfast once a month. He's been very happy to accept unemployment for the past 99 weeks and as I said has turned down several job offers in the low $20 an hour range.

He's a staunch Republican and his investments are valued at several million dollars. He's bitterly complained about the potential of having to draw any out. So kids, it's not just the lower tier of society sucking on the government teat.

Having said that, these are unusual times and we absolutely need safety nets in our society. To me, this is far from a cut and dried issue. I have no answers and typically never get involved in these threads. I am offering no opinion per se, only a story.

I will say that for me, in these times, that it's key that federal unemployment benefits are paid for. We just can't keep borrowing money.

There, now I've gone and given my opinion.

 

[Patranus]

All of you who are claiming she is lazy and just loving not having a job and getting free money are right. You're right, you win. Congrats.

Not to go off topic but I would hire someone who is unemployed in a second to do some household chores for $3/hour.
(Oh wait, can't do that because of the government - I guess I can't create a job, oh well)

 

[Freshgeardude]

Fail

enlighten me on who is going to pay for this then.

 

[Patranus]

enlighten me on who is going to pay for this then.

China?

(Oh wait, at some point we might have to pay them back)

 

[khon]

Yes it is.

The GOP want for it to be PAID FOR (remember PayGo? LOL)

There is ~500 billion in unspent stimulus funds and that is exactly where the GOP want this money to come from.

The GOP only worries about paying for programs when they don't want them. When its stuff they actually do want (2x wars, tax cuts, prescription drugs etc) funding is never an issue. It's simply the cover story they use.

 

[Red Dawn]

I remember two of my unemployed friends talking about the 'verification process' and how it was a joke. All they did was have to say they were actively looking (and they were) and that was it. No verification, no proof required

With millions out of work it would be nearly impossible to verify each and every one. They should randomly check though and those found not applying themselves should have their benefits suspended.

 

[Pens1566]

enlighten me on who is going to pay for this then.

You don't even realize why I bolded what I did. Double fail.

 

[MrEgo]

I was on state unemployment (Michigan) from February 2009 - May 2009. At the beginning of each month, I had to fill out a form that had to contain at least 3 jobs that I had applied for, contact information for each job, and that form was verified by my Unemployment Officer.

On top of that, you have to call in to an automated attendant and press a bunch of buttons to collect your check. Basically, you have to press "1" quite a few times to verify that you're still unemployed, you're still looking for work, and you did not collect any income for that respective time period.

What's the federal system like?

 

[Fear No Evil]

With millions out of work it would be nearly impossible to verify each and every one. They should randomly check though and those found not applying themselves should have their benefits suspended.

I'd like to eat unicorn steak as well.. But thats not going to happen either. Responsibility never happens in government. There is no waste. The only solutions are to cut police, fire, teachers, and the military. There is no other choice.

It is interesting that their major concern in this thread is where to find vote. Perhaps they should be out looking for a job for her, and when they get home at 5pm they can look up the results?

The other thing I have been wondering about is what happens when these people who have been on unemployment for 100, 120, 150, whatever the # of weeks finally get job. Its my understanding that unemployment benefits do not have taxes witheld. What happens when all these people suddenly owe $10,000 in back taxes? Will we excuse that as well?

 

[Fear No Evil]

I was on state unemployment (Michigan) from February 2009 - May 2009. At the beginning of each month, I had to fill out a form that had to contain at least 3 jobs that I had applied for, contact information for each job, and that form was verified by my Unemployment Officer.

On top of that, you have to call in to an automated attendant and press a bunch of buttons to collect your check. Basically, you have to press "1" quite a few times to verify that you're still unemployed, you're still looking for work, and you did not collect any income for that respective time period.

What's the federal system like?

No idea. But realistically, how much effort did it take you to get your benefits? An hour or 2 each month? Send out some resumes, fill out a few applications, get some names.. etc?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'd like to eat unicorn steak as well.. But thats not going to happen either. Responsibility never happens in government. There is no waste. The only solutions are to cut police, fire, teachers, and the military. There is no other choice.

It is interesting that their major concern in this thread is where to find vote. Perhaps they should be out looking for a job for her, and when they get home at 5pm they can look up the results?

The other thing I have been wondering about is what happens when these people who have been on unemployment for 100, 120, 150, whatever the # of weeks finally get job. Its my understanding that unemployment benefits do not have taxes witheld. What happens when all these people suddenly owe $10,000 in back taxes? Will we excuse that as well?

How the fuck can I look for a job for someone else while doing my job? She's trying like hell, but you won't believe that, and I've stopped caring what heartless fucks like you think or feel.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Senate voted to move it forward.

 

[RaistlinZ]

I was on state unemployment (Michigan) from February 2009 - May 2009. At the beginning of each month, I had to fill out a form that had to contain at least 3 jobs that I had applied for, contact information for each job, and that form was verified by my Unemployment Officer.

On top of that, you have to call in to an automated attendant and press a bunch of buttons to collect your check. Basically, you have to press "1" quite a few times to verify that you're still unemployed, you're still looking for work, and you did not collect any income for that respective time period.

What's the federal system like?

Wow, sounds rough.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The other thing I have been wondering about is what happens when these people who have been on unemployment for 100, 120, 150, whatever the # of weeks finally get job. Its my understanding that unemployment benefits do not have taxes witheld. What happens when all these people suddenly owe $10,000 in back taxes? Will we excuse that as well?

Recently a waiver was issued for the first few $k of benefits to be non taxed.

I would expect that the waiver will be extended and increased to allow those that have not worked in a year to not have to pay taxes on this additional income.

But of course those that went out and ended up with a job before the waiver will have to pay taxes on what little they received.

 

[Patranus]

I wonder if the "progressives" will blame BOOOSH for adding another 40 billion to the debt.

January 2009: $10,699,804,864,612.13
Today: $13,242,893,842,328.75
(+$2,543,088,977,716.62 in 18 months)

 

[nick1985]

Senate voted to move it forward.

:thumbsdown:

 

[Fear No Evil]

How the fuck can I look for a job for someone else while doing my job? She's trying like hell, but you won't believe that, and I've stopped caring what heartless fucks like you think or feel.

Seems like you have no trouble finding time to post here and do your job? Its heartless fucks like myself that are helping to pay for your wife's unemployment.

Hell, I got friends that are unemployed. Its not EASY for them.. no doubt. But they still go out drinking twice a week while I sit at home working late.

I believe you about your wife working hard to try to find a job.. But I also believe that a majority of people ARE NOT working hard at it. At some point we need to cut it off. My guess is YOUR answer to when that will be will become when your wife gets a job and suddenly YOUR taxes are going to go up to pay for all the people still on it.

Really, where does it end? 150 weeks? 200? 500? Never?

 

[Sinsear]

How the fuck can I look for a job for someone else while doing my job? She's trying like hell, but you won't believe that, and I've stopped caring what heartless fucks like you think or feel.

Ummm....I linked hundreds of HR jobs above.

 

[Craig234]

Not to go off topic but I would hire someone who is unemployed in a second to do some household chores for $3/hour.
(Oh wait, can't do that because of the government - I guess I can't create a job, oh well)

Sure you can. Pay them a decent and fair wage. If you disagree, I'll hire you to clean my toilet for a dollar a day (ongoing), and then you can talk about what they should accept.