Unemployment vote today

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heyheybooboo

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Full time, that would be under $500 a month. $300 for health insurance, that leaves $200. Subtract $50 a month for food (literally rice and beans) and you're at $150. Good luck finding an arrangement where $150 gets you a place with roommates.

Look on the bright side.

In Kentucky you could be living the highlife on UI bringing down $82/week ...

(which in Spidey-Speak is $400+/week!)




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KlokWyze

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I got laid off and received unemployment for a few months over this last winter. ~$230 a week (~$30K previous tax year), so it really just pays the bills and puts food on the table. Necessary thing IMO, because I don't know what the hell I would have done without it. I applied for 200+ jobs in that time frame and had only a few interviews. Everyone I know that has been on it, has gotten bored in a matter of days or weeks and didn't really have enough money to do shit. I'd say the vast majority of people on unemployment are worth helping until they can find something that does pay better for themselves, and of course, taxes.

I'm glad it got extended.

Also, I don't think you can ride on unemployment indefinitely, even if you do meet all the requirements. Mine was slated to last 6 months, but I only used it for 3.5 or something.
 

spidey07

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Look on the bright side.

In Kentucky you could be living the highlife on UI bringing down $82/week ...

(which in Spidey-Speak is $400+/week!)




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I was on it 6-7 years ago. I got the maximum which was about 400 bucks a week then.

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Just ran the online calculator. I would get 415/week plus an additional 25 for a total of 440/week, the exact equivalent of an 11/hour job for doing absolutely nothing.

For two years. The numbers say that is 43,000 dollars for doing nothing for two years.
 
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skim milk

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if you can't find a job in 99 weeks, that person is total complete failure worthless piece of shit
you can't expect to get the salary or perfect career path that you are hoping, but there are jobs out there.
 

Carmen813

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I was on it 6-7 years ago. I got the maximum which was about 400 bucks a week then.

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Just ran the online calculator. I would get 415/week plus an additional 25 for a total of 440/week, the exact equivalent of an 11/hour job for doing absolutely nothing.

For two years. The numbers say that is 43,000 dollars for doing nothing for two years.

So you would make about 21.5 a year on unemployment pre-taxes. How does that compare to your normal wage?
 

spidey07

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So you would make about 21.5 a year on unemployment pre-taxes. How does that compare to your normal wage?

Wouldn't even pay the mortgage. But that's not the point. It's the equivalent to full time 11 bucks an hour, for doing nothing. I believe in unemployment insurance, it's a good thing because it's just that...insurance and I pay for it so I have no problem using it.

It's the two years that rubs me. 6 months should be enough. When I was on it I was making calls and interviewing with a temp/IT contracting company the very next day and made my new job finding my next job. 8 hours a day of trying to find a job. Surprise, I got a great gig within 3 weeks.

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oh, and I told them I'd start in two weeks specifically because I was getting paid for doing nothing so I figured I'd extend my "vacation" some. So technically I could have only drawn 1 week, but like I said, it was a nice vacation AND I got paid. Coupled with 4 months severance it was pretty sweet.
 
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spidey07

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That IS the point. UI isn't fun for anyone. If you are a higher wage earner or someone on minimum wage life still sucks on UI.

That's what savings is for. It's a very stupid move to live paycheck to paycheck, you're only one paycheck away from financial ruin. But if you do that, that's your dumb choice.

And life for me on UI was very sweet. Golf every day, took care of some house stuff that I had been meaning to do. It was great, AND I got paid.
 

JSt0rm

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That's what savings is for. It's a very stupid move to live paycheck to paycheck, you're only one paycheck away from financial ruin. But if you do that, that's your dumb choice.

And life for me on UI was very sweet. Golf every day, took care of some house stuff that I had been meaning to do. It was great, AND I got paid.

I see your mind is trying to navigate this without admitting that UI sucks and people would rather work to make real money. I applaud you sir, not many can be as dense as you.
 

JD50

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OP are you my brother in law? His "fiancee's" unemployment just ran out a couple of weeks ago and he called my wife in a panic asking what they were supposed to do. He said that their only option is for him to start working extra hours (he's a painter) but he doesn't want to have to "struggle". I worked countless hours of overtime back when my wife and I made shit money, struggling is part of growing up. Of course she has not been looking for a job up until this point, I guess they didn't think that unemployment would ever run out.

I know this is just an anecdotal story and all, but I have to imagine that there are plenty more people out there like my worthless brother in law and his fiancee, people that don't even think about looking for a job until their unemployment runs out. Oh wait, she was offered a nanny job a few months ago but turned it down because it didn't pay enough...
 

JSt0rm

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when we find people liek your brother in law we should chop their worthless arms off and hang them if they are gay. It's the only way to be sure.
 

spidey07

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I see your mind is trying to navigate this without admitting that UI sucks and people would rather work to make real money. I applaud you sir, not many can be as dense as you.

Then why are there all the news stories about people on UI turning down jobs because they would rather get paid the same and not work? It's common sense.
 

JD50

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I see your mind is trying to navigate this without admitting that UI sucks and people would rather work to make real money. I applaud you sir, not many can be as dense as you.

No, there are many people that would rather NOT work and get free money.
 

JSt0rm

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Then why are there all the news stories about people on UI turning down jobs because they would rather get paid the same and not work? It's common sense.

I dunno spidey? Are their millions of news articles about millions of people who dont want to work? Or is it more likely that a couple of news organizations found a couple of people who would rather collect UI then work?
 

spidey07

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I dunno spidey? Are their millions of news articles about millions of people who dont want to work? Or is it more likely that a couple of news organizations found a couple of people who would rather collect UI then work?

I'll err on the side of common sense. The articles are from employers who can't fill positions because folks would rather be on UI than work for 15-20 bucks an hour.
 

JSt0rm

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I'll err on the side of common sense. The articles are from employers who can't fill positions because folks would rather be on UI than work for 15-20 bucks an hour.

Well I cant speak to those because I haven't seen them.
 

StageLeft

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Like I said earlier JStorm01 and Spidey are both right but arguing as if the other is not. I dare say the majority of unemployed people want a job, but nobody can pretend that getting a check doesn't make them at least slightly less willing to accept whatever they can get. Sometimes that's good; no point in a corporate exec type flipping burgers.

However, some unknown percentage are absolutely drinking cheap beer and watching tv all day every day while ringing in their crap each week. Everyone knows this but nobody knows what percentage of full-on deadbeats there is. I have no idea. Is it 5%, 40%? No clue.
 

JSt0rm

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Like I said earlier JStorm01 and Spidey are both right but arguing as if the other is not. I dare say the majority of unemployed people want a job, but nobody can pretend that getting a check doesn't make them at least slightly less willing to accept whatever they can get. Sometimes that's good; no point in a corporate exec type flipping burgers.

However, some unknown percentage are absolutely drinking cheap beer and watching tv all day every day while ringing in their crap each week. Everyone knows this but nobody knows what percentage of full-on deadbeats there is. I have no idea. Is it 5%, 40%? No clue.

Thats all fine but would you completely destroy medicare because there is waste? No you wouldn't. The republicans want to destroy this direct injection into the economy. This money is put right into the economy now. We aren't out of the woods yet and while I am 1099 and will never receive UI myself I recognize the need for it at this time in our society.
 

piasabird

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Some areas are worse for unemployment than others. Sometime you are better off moving. Moving is change and it scares some people because you are facing the unknown.
 

sandorski

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99 weeks to sit on her ass? Yeah right, what a crock of shit. If someone cant find a job in 99 weeks they are pretty worthless or extremely lazy. One or the other, most likely both.

...or there are no Jobs