Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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waggy

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HLN always goes to commercials .. (gotto get used to this by now :D ) ... they are back now.. and Crump is talking again.

yeah i tried watching the Jodi Aries trial with them. Found a live feed and actually get to watch it.
 

Darkman

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yeah i tried watching the Jodi Aries trial with them. Found a live feed and actually get to watch it.
They are better with Arias trial lately (somewhat).

They now put it on PAUSE .. and then RESURE .. so takes longer .. but nothing is lost .. (but pr0n talk, lol) :)
 

emperus

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that she did. it was not a weak defense or a stall motion.

I do not think the defense has a weak defense at all. in fact i think they have a very very strong one.

The fact they want a unedited and clear copy is fine. in fact Every party in it should. to try to hide or hold it is wrong.

They have the same tape that the state has. There have been 0 changes in any of the tapes they received. All, the evidence they wanted they received. They have the opportunity to depose any witness they want and ask any relevant question they want.

I do believe the state has not been readily forthcoming with some things. I'm not sure what part of that is the state being incapable of handing such a huge case or some gamesmanship. But everything they have requested they have.
 

Darkman

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Rumpole's updated calendar:

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emperus

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DId O'mara really say this today?

We'd much rather have the jury address the issue of criminal liability or lack thereof

That seems like he won't ask for an immunity hearing at all...
 

Darkman

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MOM now has Trayvon's school records .. 7 or so pages .. "lots of info" there, he says ....
 

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emperus

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I think O'mara deciding against a pre-trial Immunity Hearing speaks volumes about his fear of having GZ on the stand and his fear that even if he has the immunity hearing he would lose the hearing.

There is no other rational for not having one pre-trial.
 

OCNewbie

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I think O'mara deciding against a pre-trial Immunity Hearing speaks volumes about his fear of having GZ on the stand and his fear that even if he has the immunity hearing he would lose the hearing.

I think I agree (though possibly for different reasons).
 

OCNewbie

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Didn't the cops catch a couple of burglars the week before the shooting?

Just one, and there were multiple burglars reported; two in one incident actually. I'm not sure if the one caught/arrested was involved in that two-man incident or not.
 

airdata

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I await your evidence that contradicts all the other evidence that proves martin viciously and brutally attacked zimmerman.

I'll wait some more if needed, I keep asking for it yet nobody has provided any in spite of the tremendous mounds of evidence proving martin committing felony aggravated assault and battery in a vicious and brutal assault of an innocent man who was doing nothing wrong.

What you misunderstand is that there's not evidence of the entire situation.

Think of it this way. The events before the fight are part A. The fight starting is part B. Part C is the culmination of the fight and the shooting.

Part A) we have audio evidence of zimmerman disregarding an agent of the police and going after Trayvon because he expressed concerns over assholes like Trayvon getting away and was fed up w\ them getting away.

Part B) No evidence at all. This is the part you need to say as a fact that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.

Part C) Trayvon is seen on top of Zimmerman inflicting the minor injuries Zimmerman suffered, then Zimmerman pulls his gun out and without warning viciously, barbarically, ferociously, fatally shoots Trayvon dead.

As you can see, in part A, we have evidence of Zimmerman actiing irrationally and seeking out an altercation. We don't have any similar evidence for Trayvon doing the same, just speculation. With Zimmerman we actually have him on the phone calling Trayvon profanities at a time when he'd done absolutely nothing wrong and when he knew nothing of Trayvon.

This is why they were so quick to settle the HOA lawsuit... their neighborhood watch guy was out racially profiling people and Trayvon wasn't the first, just the first to be shot and killed. There are witnesses who had been confronted by Zimmerman in the past around the neighborhood.

So as you can see spidey, there's actually no evidence to back what you've said because what you've said is speculation. You speculate that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman when in fact we have no idea if he did. The fight could have started in ways other than Trayvon attacking Zimmerman and until we have the facts, people like you pretending to know the unknown are simply showing themselves to be full of shit.

You sir, are full of shit.
 

emperus

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Thoughts in Hearing.

Judge-
I actually like this judge. She seems more reasoned and less emotional in her approach to the hearings. Unlike the judge that was removed from the case.

BDLR-
He seems very competent today. Not sure if it was because the defense had a weak argument or that is how he is generally. Liked his line of questioning and understood the methodology behind the questions.

Defense-
Wasn't impressed about the motion or that O'mara couldn't defend it to the judge on questioning. He seemed not to understand or not to care about the law behind the motion for a sanction.

Zimm- Boy he gained weight. What is up with that? I can't imagine if the defense thought it was a bad thing that he would still be gaining wait. This is only his freedom on the line.
 
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Orignal Earl

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Just one, and there were multiple burglars reported; two in one incident actually. I'm not sure if the one caught/arrested was involved in that two-man incident or not.

well. like Spidey says, it only takes one to make the numbers go way down