Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

[emperus]

I'm preparing more for the riots when he's declared immune, got the wife down to where she can reload a 30 round mag in under a minute. That will go along with the 50 ones that are full and ready for the hoarde.

Only in the redneck riveria.

 

[spidey07]

Only in the redneck riveria.

You loot, we'll shoot.

 

[Geosurface]

spidey I'm frankly surprised that you live somewhere where such things would even be a concern.

I envisioned you out on a farm somewhere hours from any large city.

 

[soundforbjt]

spidey I'm frankly surprised that you live somewhere where such things would even be a concern.

I envisioned you out on a farm somewhere hours from any large city.

Your partly right, he lives in Kentucky.

 

[emperus]

spidey I'm frankly surprised that you live somewhere where such things would even be a concern.

I envisioned you out on a farm somewhere hours from any large city.

I think wherever he lives such things will always be a concern for him.

 

[tashatexas]

Spidey lives right smack in the middle of Redneck Crackerville county. The only time their are riots there is when the Circle K runs out of snuff or when the electric bull doesnt work at the local bar. Spidey, stfu.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Spidey lives right smack in the middle of Redneck Crackerville county. The only time their are riots there is when the Circle K runs out of snuff or when the electric bull doesnt work at the local bar. Spidey, stfu.

And to think you call spidey a racist.

 

[classy]

Do you not think there will be massive riots when he's declared immune from prosecution and corey gives that speech where she says by law nothing more can be done? Right now a large majority of the black population think zimmerman chased him down and shot him in the back from 20 feet for walking while black, and no amount of evidence or fact is going to change that perception/belief.

Seriously dude, I have told this before, you need help. I hope your posts are mostly in jest, because if not they are disturbing. You don't even live Florida, no where near Florida. You sound like some crazed pyscho half the time.

 

[spidey07]

Seriously dude, I have told this before, you need help. I hope your posts are mostly in jest, because if not they are disturbing. You don't even live Florida, no where near Florida. You sound like some crazed pyscho half the time.

So do you honestly think there won't be riots and looting when he's let go on immunity?

 

[classy]

Spidey lives right smack in the middle of Redneck Crackerville county. The only time their are riots there is when the Circle K runs out of snuff or when the electric bull doesnt work at the local bar. Spidey, stfu.

That ain't right, thats just wrong, lol

 

[Fern]

The judge is bound by law to declare zimmerman immune from prosecution if there is a preponderance of evidence he acted in self defense. There is WAY beyond the 51% preponderance of evidence, she MUST, by law, declare him immune from prosecution. That is the only outcome if we are to have justice for zimmerman.

There's a freaking witness to everything needed for it to be self defense.

My concern regarding the immunity hearing is the important question of "would a reasonable person have feared...". I could be wrong, but I can easily see a judge preferring to let a jury make that decision under these circumstances.

Fern

 

[spidey07]

My concern regarding the immunity hearing is the important question of "would a reasonable person have feared...". I could be wrong, but I can easily see a judge preferring to let a jury make that decision under these circumstances.

Fern

Except there is plenty of precedent when the victim is on their ground, on their back, being restrained after being beaten. That is automatically reasonable fear for life and plenty of case law before hand has set this precedent.

It was even covered in my CCDW class, where my AG explained different scenarios where you are automatically justified. Being on back and somebody mounting or beating you was one of them. It's a very specific legal definition in self defense that when you're on your back you're automatically legally considered defenseless and any reasonable person would automatically fear for their life.

That's what makes it such a clear cut case of self defense. There is a witness to all kinds of things that automatically qualify one to lawfully shoot.

 

[classy]

Except there is plenty of precedent when the victim is on their ground, on their back, being restrained after being beaten. That is automatically reasonable fear for life and plenty of case law before hand has set this precedent.

It was even covered in my CCDW class, where my AG explained different scenarios where you are automatically justified. Being on back and somebody mounting or beating you was one of them. It's a very specific legal definition in self defense that when you're on your back you're automatically legally considered defenseless and any reasonable person would automatically fear for their life.

That's what makes it such a clear cut case of self defense. There is a witness to all kinds of things that automatically qualify one to lawfully shoot.

Here is the problem. We know he got punched in the face while standing up. He claims his head was bashed, but his injuries don't support his claim. Zimmerman had no other injuries that support the notion he was being beaten on. We know in the struggle Trayvon at one point was on top, but he clearly was not hitting anyone. If you believe that he broke his nose while standing up, one can assume that a person would receive a lot more damage with that same person on top of them. But there is no evidence to support such a thing occured.

Let me also add, just because a person says they are in fear, doesn't mean they are reasonable in their thinking. None of his actions prior to the confronation would indicate Zimmerman had any fear of Trayvon at all. In fact his actions would lead someone to think he thought he could confront Trayvon and deal with any situation that may arise.

 

[spidey07]

Here is the problem. We know he got punched in the face while standing up. He claims his head was bashed, but his injuries don't support his claim. Zimmerman had no other injuries that support the notion he was being beaten on. We know in the struggle Trayvon at one point was on top, but he clearly was not hitting anyone. If you believe that he broke his nose while standing up, one can assume that a person would receive a lot more damage with that same person on top of them. But there is no evidence to support such a thing occured.

There are abrasions the size and shape of fingers on zimmerman's forehead and temple proving martin grabbed his head with great force. There are lacerations on the back of his skull, proving martin slammed his head into something very hard and blunt.

And as I said, you are automatically legally in reasonable fear for your life when on your back, after being beaten/assaulted/battered and then straddled. That is a very specific circumstance in self defense where it removes any gray area and you are automatically justified in any force necessary to stop the immediate and imminent threat to your life. It carries the same weight and justification as if somebody has a weapon and approaching you aggressively.

 

[dud]

I cannot wait until this circus closes up and moves to the next town. There's more action here, within this thread than there is in Sanford ... where it happened.

 

[classy]

There are abrasions the size and shape of fingers on zimmerman's forehead and temple proving martin grabbed his head with great force. There are lacerations on the back of his skull, proving martin slammed his head into something very hard and blunt.

And as I said, you are automatically legally in reasonable fear for your life when on your back, after being beaten/assaulted/battered and then straddled. That is a very specific circumstance in self defense where it removes any gray area and you are automatically justified in any force necessary to stop the immediate and imminent threat to your life. It carries the same weight and justification as if somebody has a weapon and approaching you aggressively.

Complete makeup. There is no picture I have seen that shows these abrasions. Regardless of what Serino thought, he clearly stated he did not believe the head slamming. I will also take you to task with the being straddle. If you engage a person in a fight and you are losing, that doesn't give you the right to kill a person. If this had been a situation where Martin jumped Zimmerman for no reason then yes I would agree. But all signs point to two guys squaring off in a fist fight.

 

[spidey07]

Complete makeup. There is no picture I have seen that shows these abrasions. Regardless of what Serino thought, he clearly stated he did not believe the head slamming. I will also take you to task with the being straddle. If you engage a person in a fight and you are losing, that doesn't give you the right to kill a person. If this had been a situation where Martin jumped Zimmerman for no reason then yes I would agree. But all signs point to two guys squaring off in a fist fight.

Actually it DOES and the law has been explained 100s of times.

 

[Geosurface]

Complete makeup. There is no picture I have seen that shows these abrasions.

There are nicks, scratches, and abrasions across his entire head. Front, sides, and back. On the back of the head, are the most dramatic injuries. Including the injuries which, when combined with the broken nose, accounted for the majority of the blood which covered his head 45% according to EMT responding on scene.

Neighbor said he looked like he'd just gotten his butt whooped.

It was Zimmerman screaming, and it was clear self-defense. Only stupidity and racial "my team vs. the other team" mindset, or raw ignorance of the evidence available can explain how a person would dispute any of this.

If this had been a situation where Martin jumped Zimmerman for no reason then yes I would agree. But all signs point to two guys squaring off in a fist fight.

Only if by "all signs" you actually mean "no signs"

Here are some signs which would point to it being "two guys squaring off in a fist fight"

- If the ME had found nicks, abrasions, bruises, bleeding wounds on Trayvon's head, and other parts of his body.
- If the ME found that Trayvon's nose was broken.
- If the ME had found ANY injuries of ANY kind on Trayvon other than the bullet wound, and the OFFENSIVE wound to his knuckle.
- If the 911 calls clearly showed two voices screaming in distress attempting to involve third parties. Or if we could hear someone screaming "he's got a gun!"

NONE of these things is present in the evidence, so I must insist... tell me just what in the fucking fuck are you referring to when you say "all signs" point to a two way fist fight? Explain yourself. I'm tired of this outright lying.

 

[cybrsage]

So do you honestly think there won't be riots and looting when he's let go on immunity?

Unless Sharpton or the other race war agitators step up, people will have forgotten about it by then.

 

[cybrsage]

I cannot wait until this circus closes up and moves to the next town. There's more action here, within this thread than there is in Sanford ... where it happened.

OT: I like your avatar, I had to take a double took..."with a sniper rifle?"

 

[soundforbjt]

There are nicks, scratches, and abrasions across his entire head. Front, sides, and back. On the back of the head, are the most dramatic injuries. Including the injuries which, when combined with the broken nose, accounted for the majority of the blood which covered his head 45% according to EMT responding on scene.

Neighbor said he looked like he'd just gotten his butt whooped.

It was Zimmerman screaming, and it was clear self-defense. Only stupidity and racial "my team vs. the other team" mindset, or raw ignorance of the evidence available can explain how a person would dispute any of this.



Only if by "all signs" you actually mean "no signs"

Here are some signs which would point to it being "two guys squaring off in a fist fight"

- If the ME had found nicks, abrasions, bruises, bleeding wounds on Trayvon's head, and other parts of his body.
- If the ME found that Trayvon's nose was broken.
- If the ME had found ANY injuries of ANY kind on Trayvon other than the bullet wound, and the OFFENSIVE wound to his knuckle.
- If the 911 calls clearly showed two voices screaming in distress attempting to involve third parties. Or if we could hear someone screaming "he's got a gun!"

NONE of these things is present in the evidence, so I must insist... tell me just what in the fucking fuck are you referring to when you say "all signs" point to a two way fist fight? Explain yourself. I'm tired of this outright lying.

Quit posting then and there won't be so many lies. :awe:

 

[Geosurface]

Cute sound, but let's hear what lies I posted there?

 

[tashatexas]

The ME found no signs that Tray had beaten anyone up either. Zimmerthug was not beaten up by a long shot. All physical evidence shows a grown man tussled with a much weaker kid over a gun and the kid begged for his life and was killed anyway. Zimmerthug thug told his brother they tussled over the gun that Zimmerthug clearly pulled put even though his life was not in danger when he pulled it. There is no sign Zimmerman was ever in the grass on his back as he described. He has superficial scratches thats it. No jury will believe he feared for his life when he pulled the trigger. Look at him! Gtfoh

 

[tashatexas]

Geosurface you rusty nail you've repeatedly lied saying his medical records prove he had a broken nose when we've seen no medical record and he was never diagnosed with a broken nose.

You've lied on Trayvon that he was a thug when the police themselves reached a different conclusion.

You've repeatedly LIED and said it was Zimmerthug screaming when not a single expert has agreed.

All you do is lie you balless wonder.

 

[tashatexas]

"It was Zimmerman screaming, and it was clear self-defense. Only stupidity and racial "my team vs.theother team" mindset, or raw ignorance of the evidence available can explain how a person would dispute any of this."

Two lies in one sentence. You have no proof it was Zimmerthug screaming and all evidence says it wasn't self defense considering HE HAS NO SERIOUS DOCUMENTED INJURIES AND NO PHYSICAL INJURIES THAT.SHOW A.BASHED IN HEAD OR BROKEN NOSE.

You are involved in this case for racial reasons you fat, virgin, bigot.