Who was screaming is so much at the center of this case
Agreed. I've always been the foremost voice in this thread stressing the importance of who was screaming. It is the one thing which has the most power to indicate what was happening, the dynamic of what was going on prior to the shot.
Zimmerman supporters REFUSE to admit it could have been Trayvon
Correct. There is almost no possible way, within the known evidence and logic/common sense, that it was Trayvon screaming. It just simply wasn't.
- GZ had the injuries
- GZ said it was him screaming immediately
- A witness said he saw GZ screaming
- That same witness expressed what should go without saying, the logic of why he would deduce it was GZ (the person on bottom being beaten) screaming.
- The voice is not that of an African American male. Black males have a deeper voice, with a distinctive sound to it. This is why black voice actors are hired to voice black characters. There are exceptions, some whites can do a convincing black voice, some blacks speak with a more stereotypically white voice, however, Trayvon did in fact have a stereotypically black voice, just as his father does.
- It would not make any sense for the attacker to scream, especially to scream like that.
- It actually, and simply IS George Zimmerman's voice. Just listen to the god damned recording. It's his voice.
two experts have said it absolutely was him.
Incorrect. Two voice analysis guys contracted by the Orlando Sentinel said they didn't think it was Zimmerman, when comparing a scream to a calm speaking voice, with their heads completely filled with the mythos and urban legends which surrounded this case at the time. They had inadequate samples and disparate samples and a valid comparison could not be made, according to their own science's governing principles. They did it anyway because it was a good opportunity for publicity. They gave the answer that was common wisdom at that point, playing it safe and covering their ass by saying they couldn't be sure. They didn't even have a sample of Trayvon's voice.
They promised another analysis once they had Trayvon's voice, and the family of Trayvon said they'd provide it. We've not heard a peep about that in months. Use your brain and think why that might be.
Zimmerthug was UNABLE to reproduce the screams because it wasn't him.
Zimmerman was not asked by the investigators to scream, he was asked to repeat the word "help" over and over and over and over and over again in a monotone, low volume voice. This was an extremely flawed way for the investigators to do their "reenactment" and they should've known better. Zimmerman should've pointed this out, and said "wait, that's not what is on the recording... why don't I scream the same way?" but as we know he's not that bright.
Of course, it's difficult to recreate that kind of raw terror and fear for your life, and GZ certainly isn't some sort of Julliard trained actor or something.
He did not hear the 911 screams until after he gave his voice sample after which he said, "that's not me screaming." Well no shit Sherlock!
As OCNewbie indicated, GZ said "that doesn't even sound like me" which is actually just about the most candid, normal, expected possible thing someone in that situation would say. It says a lot about his honesty and candor to me, and to anyone not wearing racial vengeance blinders, which I'm pretty sure you've actually put about 5 pairs of on.
He was expressing disbelief that he could sound that way. He wasn't saying it wasn't him screaming.
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