Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

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And, going by his logic, no unarmed teens have been shot & killed in his neighborhood since GZ is gone either.


Did the neighborhood have a constant stream of unarmed kids getting killed?

No, the problem was with home invasions/robberies. Trayvon was caught with stolen jewelry and burglary tools, and the jewelry wasn't reported in miami which means it came from somewhere else.. Tell me, where was the only other place trayvon was known to visit??....

Your lack of logic and continued ridiculous comparisons are amazing.......
 
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I thought it was funny because he was asserting that Trayvon was the sole burglar in that city assuming he every committed any burglaries in that city at all.


In the entire city? No.

I do think he was directly involved in the break-ins in that little community. Based on the info we have, it's extremely likely that he was trafficing stolen jewelry from sanford down to miami to sell. He also has been known to carry burglary tools with him.
 

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Sorry, I just skim your posts since they're shit. My bad.

You still haven't stated whom I'm racist against? White cowards who collect guns because they're so frightened of the skeery black men?
Still projecting your own bias and bigotry onto others in an attempt to make yourself feel better?
 

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Still projecting your own bias and bigotry onto others in an attempt to make yourself feel better?

Still dodging the question because you have no answer? Using the tired and trite "If you say I'm a racist, YOU'RE the racist for thinking it!" tactic Republicans love to use? Do any of you morons know how to actually think?
 

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"This message is hidden because SpatiallyAware is on your ignore list."

Sorry, chief. Can't hear you. Speak up.
 

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In the entire city? No.

I do think he was directly involved in the break-ins in that little community. Based on the info we have, it's extremely likely that he was trafficing stolen jewelry from sanford down to miami to sell. He also has been known to carry burglary tools with him.

Really? You think that despite no evidence? Not surprising given all of your ridiculous posts.

" been known to " is a phrase you'd use with multiple times of a person doing something or being seen with something.

1 time doesn't account for this at all.
 

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In the entire city? No.

I do think he was directly involved in the break-ins in that little community. Based on the info we have, it's extremely likely that he was trafficing stolen jewelry from sanford down to miami to sell. He also has been known to carry burglary tools with him.

More speculation with no proof....Hmmm, isn't that what the Z-Men always say the Pro-TM side does? Pot...meet Kettle.

Between youself, Geo's firm belief in TM being 6'3" and it's definately GZ screaming because I just know it is, and OCNewbie's, GZ was just getting an address, your side seems to cling to a lot of unproven "facts".
 
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Are you asking me to belive the Neighborhood Watch Captain does not know a street address in the gated community he has lived in for two+ years? Come on, it is one street over from his house and where he supposedly walks his dog.

Are you asking me to believe that GZ, while on the phone with the non emergency operator, was already lying about:

- TM looking like he was peering into houses
- Whether he knew the street name
- What his intentions were after they hung up

All with a carefully planned murder of someone who was at that point nowhere to be seen in mind?

Give me a fucking break. Seriously.
 
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Really? You think that despite no evidence? Not surprising given all of your ridiculous posts.

" been known to " is a phrase you'd use with multiple times of a person doing something or being seen with something.

1 time doesn't account for this at all.


FINALLY you guys are able to admit that trayvon broke into a house to get the thousands of dollars in jewelry.

I feel like this is a big step for you, so I'm not going to press the likelihood of a thief only doing this one time.
 

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Still dodging the question because you have no answer? Using the tired and trite "If you say I'm a racist, YOU'RE the racist for thinking it!" tactic Republicans love to use? Do any of you morons know how to actually think?
When did you ever ask a question? All I've seen is you projecting your own bias and bigotry onto others in an attempt to make yourself feel better?
 

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Are you asking me to believe that GZ, while on the phone with the non emergency operator, was already lying about:

- TM looking like he was peering into houses
- Whether he knew the street name
- What his intentions were after they hung up

All with a carefully planned murder of someone who was at that point nowhere to be seen in mind?

Give me a fucking break. Seriously.

Please show me where Zimmerman said he was peering into houses.
 

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FINALLY you guys are able to admit that trayvon broke into a house to get the thousands of dollars in jewelry.

I feel like this is a big step for you, so I'm not going to press the likelihood of a thief only doing this one time.

I didn't "admit" anything. Fact of the matter is that Trayvon was charged with no crime and therefore you have no evidence said crime was ever committed.

Zimmerman on the other hand was arrested for felony assault on a police officer... that shit is real and documented.

Also, sorry but the volume of inane posts from you has brought me to the decision that reading and replying to your posts is simply a waste of time. You've proven that you can't read and that even when I correct your mis use of the english language you turn it into an assertion that something was said that wasn't said. Have fun on my ignore list, bud.
 
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Geosurface

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Please show me where Zimmerman said he was peering into houses.

“He's just staring looking at all the houses.” - George Zimmerman on non emergency call

Robert Zimmerman claims his son was going to the store when he spotted Martin walking through his neighborhood. George Zimmerman, he said, found it odd the teen was walking in between the town homes on a rainy night, rather than on the street or on the sidewalk.

I believe his father and brother both said additional things to indicate that GZ had relayed to them that it looked as though Trayvon was peering into houses, maybe even into windows or open garage doors.

I don't remember all the specifics and frankly I don't feel like tracking down every little iota of this, you're welcome to if you wish.

But I also believe during interviews with detectives, and the full reenactment when he was describing where he first spotted Trayvon, he talked about this in more detail, about his impression that Trayvon was paying unusual attention to a house he knew the owner of, etc.
 
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I didn't "admit" anything. Fact of the matter is that Trayvon was charged with no crime and therefore you have no evidence said crime was ever committed.

Zimmerman on the other hand was arrested for felony assault on a police officer... that shit is real and documented.

Also, sorry but the volume of inane posts from you has brought me to the decision that reading and replying to your posts is simply a waste of time. You've proven that you can't read and that even when I correct your mis use of the english language you turn it into an assertion that something was said that wasn't said. Have fun on my ignore list, bud.

He's a 17 year old kid, just because the crumponites got his records sealed doesn't automatically mean it never happened...

Furthermore, just because something isn't valid in a court case definitely doesn't mean it's invalid here as well. This is an open forum, we are free to come to whatever conclusions we want, based on whatever data is available.


Every single thing about this kid stinks... from his burglary equipment, thousands in stolen jewelry, to "swinging on" bus drivers. Again, just because the bus driver didn't press charges doesn't automatically mean it never happened in the first place.
 

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"looking about"
"looking at the houses"
" now he's just staring at me.."
"now he's coming towards me"
"he's got his hand in his waistband" ( OH SHIT!!! HOLD THE PHONE )
"somethin's wrong with him"
" Yep, he's comin to check me out " ( Cause I'm parked in the path to where he's walking " These assholes always get away "
"He's runnin..."
* Car door opens and closes *

"fucking punks"
"* are you following him?"

" Yep "
"* we don't need you to do that"

** you can hear wind as he moves quickly while holding his phone **
 
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"looking about"
"looking at the houses"
" now he's just staring at me.."
"now he's coming towards me"
"he's got his hand in his waistband" ( OH SHIT!!! HOLD THE PHONE )
"somethin's wrong with him"
" Yep, he's comin to check me out " ( Cause I'm parked in the path to where he's walking " These assholes always get away "
"He's runnin..."
* Car door opens and closes *

"fucking punks"
"* are you following him?"

" Yep "
"* we don't need you to do that"

** you can hear wind as he moves quickly while holding his phone **

Sounds just like he saw a little punk thug to me.. Why would some scared 17 year old kid approached a man in a car? Why is he peering at and behind the houses?

I'd bet anything that trayvon ran, hid, and stashed his loot/burglary tools/drugs before deciding to delve out his revenge on zimmerman. How dare zimmerman, the NW watch guy, interrupt his potentially illegal activities??
 

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so there in his call we have the simple fact that yes, he was following him.

You add that fact to the language he just used in saying " these assholes always get away " and " Fucking punks " and it's pretty damn obvious that follow = chase.

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so there in his call we have the simple fact that yes, he was following him.

You add that fact to the language he just used in saying " these assholes always get away " and " Fucking punks " and it's pretty damn obvious that follow = chase.


He is the NW guy! Of course he kept an eye on an obvious thug, who is looking behind houses and walking somewhere he shouldn't be.. Trayvon didn't live behind that row of houses, WTF was he doing back there?? Looking for an opportunity.

Zimmerman used to be a thug, he knows what it's all about. He saw trayvon from a mile away, hoodie in deep cover, "looking about" "looking behind houses"... acting like he had a gun to get a reaction. He got what he was asking for.
 
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lol at you guys... ignoring me because I ruin your little race baiter circle jerks, and you can't argue with logic and reason.
 

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"looking about"
"looking at the houses"
" now he's just staring at me.."
"now he's coming towards me"
"he's got his hand in his waistband" ( OH SHIT!!! HOLD THE PHONE )
"somethin's wrong with him"
" Yep, he's comin to check me out " ( Cause I'm parked in the path to where he's walking " These assholes always get away "
"He's runnin..."
* Car door opens and closes *

"fucking punks"
"* are you following him?"

" Yep "
"* we don't need you to do that"

** you can hear wind as he moves quickly while holding his phone **

No evidence to back up your claim GZ continued following.

O'MARA: That he turned back to his car. We'll start with that one.

GILBREATH: I have nothing to indicate he did not or did not to that.

O'MARA: My question was do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car?

GILBREATH: No.

O'MARA: No evidence. Correct?

GILBREATH: Understanding -- are you talking about at that point in time?

O'MARA: Since. Today. Do you have any evidence that conflicts with his suggestion that he had turned around and went back to his car?

GILBREATH: Other than his statement, no.

O'MARA: Any evidence that conflicts with that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He answered it. He said no.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So do you know who started the fight?

GILBREATH: Do I know?

O'MARA: Right.

GILBREATH: No.

O'MARA: Do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight?

GILBREATH: No.
 

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No evidence to back up your claim GZ continued following.

Continued following? What was he doing getting out of the car and running?

Or the fact that he told them to have police call his phone? ( because he wasn't returning to his vehicle..)

He was going to get that fucking punk.. .that's what he was going to do. That's why he exited his vehicle and started running after him. Those assholes always get away and he wasn't going to let that fucking punk get away that night.

That is alot more evidence than simply saying " do you have evidence he continued to follow him? " That's a meaningless argument when we have a recording of him showing his state of mind when he took off after him.
 

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Continued following? What was he doing getting out of the car and running?

Or the fact that he told them to have police call his phone? ( because he wasn't returning to his vehicle..)

He was going to get that fucking punk.. .that's what he was going to do. That's why he exited his vehicle and started running after him. Those assholes always get away and he wasn't going to let that fucking punk get away that night.

That is alot more evidence than simply saying " do you have evidence he continued to follow him? " That's a meaningless argument when we have a recording of him showing his state of mind when he took off after him.

Yet one of the State's Attorney's office investigators testified that they have no evidence that GZ continued to follow TM after the dispatcher told him "We don't need you to do that". Nor do they have any evidence that GZ confronted TM or started the physical altercation.