Ultimate fighter vs. Navy Seal- who wins?

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: Special K


But how many of them are SEALs? I'm not saying active-duty military are uncommon, but SEALs are quite rare.

i have one uncle who is a SEAL. well retired but nonetheless still a SEAL

yayyy. lol

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: Lash444


I am having a difficult time understanding what it is you were just saying there, but MMA is a continually evolving fighting style. Id assume that just about all of the fighters who are worth a lick of salt are fighters who began fighting in their early teens training in one art form until they maxed it out and then branched off.

Regardless, I dont see how this relates. Are you saying that a Navy Seal gets more training in hand to hand in his limited Seals training than an MMA fighter who makes it his profession? If he doesnt, are you saying that they teach things in the Navy Seals for hand to hand combat that they wouldnt in the MMA?

then you werent reading properly. i was responding to the dewd who said that some people dont train their whole lives in a martial art. i was simply stating that many who have are not necessarily an MMA fighter. im not trying to debate or delve into it any further than that.

to be frank, im more interested in reading other peoples opinion on the subject rather than to divulge my own more completely.

im still sticking with my answer that the SEAL wins a street fight to the death

 

[OCNewbie]

Mystique (Elite Navy Seal) versus Technique (Elite MMA Fighter)

I'd prefer extra helpings of technique. One thing that comes to my mind, is that MMA fighters usually fight knowing that a ref is there to step in in case things get too out of hand, they start taking too much of a beating, etc. If the MMA fighter knew he was in a life or death fight, he may not be as calm/reassured. Where a SEAL may have more of a killer instinct in such a situation.

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: OCNewbie
Mystique (Elite Navy Seal) versus Technique (Elite MMA Fighter)

I'd prefer extra helpings of technique. One thing that comes to my mind, is that MMA fighters usually fight knowing that a ref is there to step in in case things get too out of hand, they start taking too much of a beating, etc. If the MMA fighter knew he was in a life or death fight, he may not be as calm/reassured. Where a SEAL may have more of a killer instinct in such a situation.

oook, but youre not saying who you think PWNS.... pick one!

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I have a number of friends who are Navy SEALS and as much as I respect the military and the training that our elite forces get there is no way any of them could take on GSP in hand to hand combat, it would literally be over in the first round. Throw in weapons and of course it's another story.
-AE

yea and how old are you? how LONG have they been SEALs?
these things completely factor in. ELITE SEALs are going to be wayyyy more kill-capable than a guy fresh out of the gate and little fighting experience

I'm 24 and Point taken, these guys are 12-36 months in, ages 25-28 but they've all seen active combat. I don't disagree that my friends are the most capable neutralizers I know personally and I don't want to take anything away from them. I'm just saying someone like GSP with his jujitsu and ground game would really be a considerable challenge in a hand to hand weaponless street fight.
-AE

 

[schizoid77]

Me.

 

[tboo]

Seal.

 

[OCNewbie]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: OCNewbie
Mystique (Elite Navy Seal) versus Technique (Elite MMA Fighter)

I'd prefer extra helpings of technique. One thing that comes to my mind, is that MMA fighters usually fight knowing that a ref is there to step in in case things get too out of hand, they start taking too much of a beating, etc. If the MMA fighter knew he was in a life or death fight, he may not be as calm/reassured. Where a SEAL may have more of a killer instinct in such a situation.

oook, but youre not saying who you think PWNS.... pick one!

I'd pick the MMA fighter to win the majority of the confrontations.

Or you could choose this guy who is an elite level military dude AND a champion in an MMA org (WEC) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Stann

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I have a number of friends who are Navy SEALS and as much as I respect the military and the training that our elite forces get there is no way any of them could take on GSP in hand to hand combat, it would literally be over in the first round. Throw in weapons and of course it's another story.
-AE

yea and how old are you? how LONG have they been SEALs?
these things completely factor in. ELITE SEALs are going to be wayyyy more kill-capable than a guy fresh out of the gate and little fighting experience

I'm 24 and Point taken, these guys are 12-36 months in, ages 25-28 but they've all seen active combat. I don't disagree that my friends are the most capable neutralizers I know personally and I don't want to take anything away from them. I'm just saying someone like GSP with his jujitsu and ground game would really be a considerable challenge in a hand to hand weaponless street fight.
-AE

lol, no worries son. anyways, im not saying there are NO capable MMA fighters that could possibly pwn a SEAL... i just think if you take the best of the best of each, i feel the SEAL would cream the MMA guy 8/10 times. then again i am not a SEAL nor an MMA fighter. just a wee little gal with limited exposure to MMA in the first place.

 

[Molondo]

This is worse than MAC vs PC

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: OCNewbie

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: OCNewbie
Mystique (Elite Navy Seal) versus Technique (Elite MMA Fighter)

I'd prefer extra helpings of technique. One thing that comes to my mind, is that MMA fighters usually fight knowing that a ref is there to step in in case things get too out of hand, they start taking too much of a beating, etc. If the MMA fighter knew he was in a life or death fight, he may not be as calm/reassured. Where a SEAL may have more of a killer instinct in such a situation.

oook, but youre not saying who you think PWNS.... pick one!

I'd pick the MMA fighter to win the majority of the confrontations.

Or you could choose this guy who is an elite level military dude AND a champion in an MMA org (WEC) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Stann

FAIL!
that doesnt say anything other than hes partially both but not an Elite SEAL. try again darling

 

[QueBert]

nobody seems to be factoring in a Seal isn't a dude off the street who decided one day to become a Seal and trained for 21 months of whatever the program is to become one. I bet a lot have past training, maybe in some of the same discipline MMA fighters do. Weather it be BJJ, Kick Boxing, Wrestling, whatever. Seals are bad ass before becoming Seals, you cannot just decided you want to be one. If the typical ATOT, or typical human woke up one day wanting to be a Seal, they would fail out before the first day of boot camp was over.

Hell week they have to go all week non stop with only 4 hours of sleep total over 5 days. Seals have a mentality that would make them hard to beat in a fight. You can't really use a GSP as a good gauge for MMA Vs. Seal, GSP is elite even amongst MMA fighters. The typical MMA fighter against a Seal would be a great fight. And I bet some Seals could stand and bang with the upper level MMA dudes.

 

[Lash444]

Originally posted by: Molondo
This is worse than MAC vs PC

I think its closer to saying which one would be better at running OSX.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Lash444

Originally posted by: Molondo
This is worse than MAC vs PC

I think its closer to saying which one would be better at running OSX.

I think it's more like asking who's the better athelete - a world champion decathalon winner or winner of an individual event. As a whole, the decathalete is incredibly well rounded and a superb athlete. But he's going to lose to a world champion of any individual event.

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Lash444

Originally posted by: Molondo
This is worse than MAC vs PC

I think its closer to saying which one would be better at running OSX.

I think it's more like asking who's the better athelete - a world champion decathalon winner or winner of an individual event. As a whole, the decathalete is incredibly well rounded and a superb athlete. But he's going to lose to a world champion of any individual event.

trueness. well said

 

[Lash444]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Lash444

Originally posted by: Molondo
This is worse than MAC vs PC

I think its closer to saying which one would be better at running OSX.

I think it's more like asking who's the better athelete - a world champion decathalon winner or winner of an individual event. As a whole, the decathalete is incredibly well rounded and a superb athlete. But he's going to lose to a world champion of any individual event.

trueness. well said

>.< Hes stating that MMA fighters are better. And thats exactly what my analogy was trying to get across. OSX runs on PC, but it was designed for MAC systems. Sure, you can get OSX to work on PC, but dont expect it to be better or more stable on it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Lash444

Originally posted by: Molondo
This is worse than MAC vs PC

I think its closer to saying which one would be better at running OSX.

I think it's more like asking who's the better athelete - a world champion decathalon winner or winner of an individual event. As a whole, the decathalete is incredibly well rounded and a superb athlete. But he's going to lose to a world champion of any individual event.

trueness. well said

err thats what we been saying..

 

[duragezic]

Guys, just all shut up so TehMac can clear everything up for us, what with his SEAL and MMA training (right from his parent's basement!).

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Navy SEALs have GUNS...

read op he said no weapons

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Navy SEALs have GUNS...

read op he said no weapons

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

It would make my year to see Kimbo Slice try and ultimate fight a .45

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Navy SEALs have GUNS...

read op he said no weapons

not unless the street they were in is in the ghetto... there could be guns in dumpsters etc.

 

[911paramedic]

Special forces personnel go through training similar to the UFC guys do, only their submissions are kill moves.

A SEAL may do a quick larynx crush move, or something else rather devastating.

However, UFC guys train all day every day. I would be willing to bet they could win if they got a rear naked choke, guillotine, etc. They could just hold it longer and it would kill them.

Now...put a UFC guy in the wilderness with a SEAL, the SEAL wins.

 

[imported_Imp]

UFC. I'm going to guess the Seal is used to doing quick takedowns, then killing them. Without the killing allowed, the UFC dude will probably have more endurance.

 

[Vehemence]

The MMA fighter, most likely.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
MMA fighter easily. Seals aren't trained as extensively in hand-to-hand combat as a MMA fighter nor do they practice this craft as extensively as a MMA fighter.

:laugh:

Seal kills MMA poser in 60 seconds or less. We will never see this fight, the Seal will just leave the body to be found later......

Some of you kids need to turn off the damn TV.