Ukrainian refugee murdered on mass transit train.

MtnMan

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A horrific stabbing and murder of a Ukrainian refugee occurred on a light rail mass transit train in Charlotte, NC. Trump is outraged and is demanding the death penalty for the attacker, and I'm actually OK with that.

BUT!
What if the refugee from Ukraine was not a very attractive Caucasian blond woman, but some guy or slightly overweight middle-aged woman from Ukraine?
What if the refugee from Ukraine was not from Ukraine, but from a middle eastern country, or South American country, or Africa (excluding white South Africans)?
What if the attacker were not a black man, but a redneck with a MAGA hat or Trump tattoo?

 

brycejones

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A horrific stabbing and murder of a Ukrainian refugee occurred on a light rail mass transit train in Charlotte, NC. Trump is outraged and is demanding the death penalty for the attacker, and I'm actually OK with that.

BUT!
What if the refugee from Ukraine was not a very attractive Caucasian blond woman, but some guy or slightly overweight middle-aged woman from Ukraine?
What if the refugee from Ukraine was not from Ukraine, but from a middle eastern country, or South American country, or Africa (excluding white South Africans)?
What if the attacker were not a black man, but a redneck with a MAGA hat or Trump tattoo?

Sounds like an act from a deeply disturbed person being politicized by the administration for their own purposes. Is Duffy willing to pay for a cop to be stationed on every train car and bus while they are in service?
 

HomerJS

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Trump is talking about this because you have an attractive blond woman attacked on the train by a black man. They are trying to promote this as a race-based attack when the black man was mentally ill. However, his idiot followers will lap this up like they do all his lies.

Meanwhile Trump silent on the church shooting and the cop killed at CDC HQ.
 

hal2kilo

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Trump is talking about this because you have an attractive blond woman attacked on the train by a black man. They are trying to promote this as a race-based attack when the black man was mentally ill. However, his idiot followers will lap this up like they do all his lies.

Meanwhile Trump silent on the church shooting and the cop killed at CDC HQ.
Fox syndrome.
 

Muse

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I saw the story on TV network news, including the assault (they cut it a split second before she was stabbed). It was heart wrenching. She appeared to be about as innocent a person as you could ever hope to see.
 

Moonbeam

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I saw the story on TV network news, including the assault (they cut it a split second before she was stabbed). It was heart wrenching. She appeared to be about as innocent a person as you could ever hope to see.
I was wondering for a second there how someone could become that mentally ill to stab someone as innocent as you ever hope to see, but then I realized we have to ban knives.
 

VRAMdemon

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The woman was murdered, and the murderer was charged and arrested. I’m not sure what makes this case so newsworthy?

I know ... Because the color of the victim and assailant fits right into the feigned outrage narrative. They are awful quiet when a room full of children are murdered by someone that looks like them though. Murders and crimes happen daily by someone with a rap sheet or being mentally ill. They don’t actually care about the woman, they only care about exploiting her death. 24 Ukrainian retirees were just killed by a Putin airstrike as they were waiting to collect their pensions in Yarova, Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine the other day. Have any of these Republicans commented on those dead and murdered Ukrainians?

White girl murdered by mentally ill Black man. Conservatives care.

Minorities shot to death by mentally ill white supremacist. *crickets*

Trump murdered 11 people in international waters. Why isn't Fox talking about that?
 

UNCjigga

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Liberal policies and lack of hard time let him return to the streets to kill.

Poor woman. RIP.
LOL, GOP has had a lock on the state legislature with supermajority veto override power for like 10 of the last 15 years. Democratic mayors have no part in making the laws or setting conditions on pre-trial release. The magistrate followed the laws that the GOP set for pre-trial release conditions on a charge that was essentially a prank 911 phone call.

The only other option she had was to release him to a mental health facility—but they’d have to agree to take him and there’s no guarantee he’d be committed all the way from January to August. If you don’t know what’s happening with hospitals and clinics in NC, they’re underfunded and shutting down because the GOP keeps blocking Medicaid expansion soon etc.

Try again.
 

Muse

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I was wondering for a second there how someone could become that mentally ill to stab someone as innocent as you ever hope to see, but then I realized we have to ban knives.
Heartless comment. WTF. Your standard kitchen would be ill equipped without knives, you moron.
 

FelixDeCat

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LOL, GOP has had a lock on the state legislature with supermajority veto override power for like 10 of the last 15 years. Democratic mayors have no part in making the laws or setting conditions on pre-trial release. The magistrate followed the laws that the GOP set for pre-trial release conditions on a charge that was essentially a prank 911 phone call.

The only other option she had was to release him to a mental health facility—but they’d have to agree to take him and there’s no guarantee he’d be committed all the way from January to August. If you don’t know what’s happening with hospitals and clinics in NC, they’re underfunded and shutting down because the GOP keeps blocking Medicaid expansion soon etc.

Try again.

Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
 

UNCjigga

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Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
He wasn’t an illegal immigrant and I have no idea what you’re going on about. The next time a “Biden comes to town” I’m sure the GOP will just sabotage any shot at legally changing immigration laws (via Congress) like they’ve done twice (3 times?) since 2010.
 

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This guy deserves what he gets. After watching the vid I can't fathom why he killed her. Mental health needs to be free here in the US. Sorry any kind of healthcare needs to be no cost here.
I'm a Ukrainian American.
Sorry I'm a born and raised US citizen that has Ukrainian roots.
 
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Red Squirrel

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Reminds me of the psycho quite a while back now who beheaded and then started to eat a person on a bus here in Canada. He got 10 years, he's out now. People like that should get a life sentence or death penalty. They cannot be trusted in society, as they might just do it again. Jail in this case is not just for punishment, it's for public safety.
 

IronWing

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Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
Fuck off, nazi.
 
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Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
And how of anything your right wing policies would have made a difference here. You are your personal clown show.
 
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Heartless comment. WTF. Your standard kitchen would be ill equipped without knives, you moron.
He said to the deer hunter…….. I have a nice and rather expensive collection of German and Japanese knives too, just because I like them. But day to day I get by mostly with a 4 inch pairing knife, a bread knife, and a Nigiri. I prepare on the top of my range so I use a small cutting board. My cats eat on my kitchen table and sharpen their claws on it so it’s a lot of time to make it food prep safe. I have all kinds and sizes of chef knives but a six in serrated pairing knife is my favorite for linger cuts. If it touches my skin I bleed. I’m a fist taker, I guess.

I guess what I am saying is that I do have a small understanding of the utility of both knives and guns and that my moron act was a parody of how I see those who want to ban guns or knives when the issue is the pathetic ignorance and denial that mental illness is the product of self hate. You are clearly unaware that you called me a moron because you were made to feel like one. I fully understand you do not want to see that and you multiplied a millions of times is why that woman died. Mass denial killed her and so many more. And yet we sleep so comfortably.
 

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Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
I would say that illegal immigration’s a is a big and out of hand issue and also that it existed under both Democrat and Republican administrations. Which party won the last Presidential election in part by using it as a wedge issue and also stymied reform to keep the issue real? Even with sabotage of reforms Democrats were deporting people in greater numbers.

Now we have a fascist sweeping the streets because of good intentioned propagandized ignoramuses like yourself who can’t see what is right in front of your eyes voted him in. It’s just not enough to have contempt for those who cut in line and cross illegally. Their lives I would bet are far more miserable and hopeless than yours. Yes they cross illegally but there are so many more moral issues involved. The complexities for the sake of simplicity you blame only one side. Now everything is worse. Don’t die. Wake up. Meaning well needs awareness to pull off.
 
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Reminds me of the psycho quite a while back now who beheaded and then started to eat a person on a bus here in Canada. He got 10 years, he's out now. People like that should get a life sentence or death penalty. They cannot be trusted in society, as they might just do it again. Jail in this case is not just for punishment, it's for public safety.
WTF 10 years?
 

HomerJS

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Liberal policies allowing millions of illegals who went on to commit crimes in America speaks for itself. And how much do you want to bet when the next Biden comes to town will will have four years of revenge migration, they will throw the borders open wide again and you will be smiling ear to ear. This man will likely be executed.
Are you going to answer the question or just regurgitate right wing talking points? Immigration has nothing to do with this crime.
 

Muse

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He said to the deer hunter…….. I have a nice and rather expensive collection of German and Japanese knives too, just because I like them. But day to day I get by mostly with a 4 inch pairing knife, a bread knife, and a Nigiri. I prepare on the top of my range so I use a small cutting board. My cats eat on my kitchen table and sharpen their claws on it so it’s a lot of time to make it food prep safe. I have all kinds and sizes of chef knives but a six in serrated pairing knife is my favorite for linger cuts. If it touches my skin I bleed. I’m a fist taker, I guess.

I guess what I am saying is that I do have a small understanding of the utility of both knives and guns and that my moron act was a parody of how I see those who want to ban guns or knives when the issue is the pathetic ignorance and denial that mental illness is the product of self hate. You are clearly unaware that you called me a moron because you were made to feel like one. I fully understand you do not want to see that and you multiplied a millions of times is why that woman died. Mass denial killed her and so many more. And yet we sleep so comfortably.
No, I understood you were attempting parody, but it wasn't appropriate in that context. Everybody knows the issues. Nobody but an imbecile would react to that video by advocating for banning knives. So, you suggesting that contemplation of the circumstance brought you to logically want to ban knives, was insulting to me. I called you a moron because you evidently didn't realize that.

You love your guns. I have a vision of human life without people wanting to own guns. You do not.

You see mental illness as the cause of rampant gun violence in America. I see guns as a major cause of mental illness in America.
 

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No, I understood you were attempting parody, but it wasn't appropriate in that context.
Surely you mean it wasn't appropriate in your opinion because in my case whenever I thought something was inappropriate and tried to prove it by the existence of an absolute standard by which to measure and prove it, I failed every time. So my experience says to me that you either have fantastical notions of self righteous god like judgment or your pretending to be authoritative even though you know it's just your personal opinion.
Everybody knows the issues. Nobody but an imbecile would react to that video by advocating for banning knives.
As I said plenty of idiots would have called for banning guns if it had been a shooting instead of a stabbing, which was my point. You just don't like my point.
So, you suggesting that contemplation of the circumstance brought you to logically want to ban knives, was insulting to me. I called you a moron because you evidently didn't realize that.
And I was suggesting that's the kind of thinking you do.
You love your guns. I have a vision of human life without people wanting to own guns. You do not.
My vision of what human life could become vastly exceeds a world without guns. Triggered people resort to silly putdowns.
You see mental illness as the cause of rampant gun violence in America. I see guns as a major cause of mental illness in America.
I see you as motivated to have to think like that to avoid self realization that thinking as you do will endlessly do nothing to change anything real, that violence will always exist as a mass psychosis event, and that you are also infected. Was it a love pat, calling me a moron or was it intended to hurt. Have you ever really let go and felt the monster inside? Isn't that what you fear?
 

Muse

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Well, @Moonbeam, people can sublimate their aggression in various ways. They can watch violent movies, boxing, football, wrestling, play video games (they can also participate in those things, if capable). They can also buy guns and make of them what they will. That is more dangerous. Where did I say that people will not be violent? A gun makes it too easy. You are saying my advocating for de-gunning America is ineffectual because... I don't think so. Every person who chooses to not buy a gun is pacifying America and on average is making themselves safer.
 

FelixDeCat

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Reminds me of the psycho quite a while back now who beheaded and then started to eat a person on a bus here in Canada. He got 10 years, he's out now. People like that should get a life sentence or death penalty. They cannot be trusted in society, as they might just do it again. Jail in this case is not just for punishment, it's for public safety.
10 years .. wow

I think murder should deserve a minimum 30 year penalty worldwide, with extra years for aggravating circumstances.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Are you going to answer the question or just regurgitate right wing talking points? Immigration has nothing to do with this crime.
I did not see any questions. But I have a question...why is murder glamorized in music? Some people are influenced by violent lyrics in songs.