UF student gets tasered at John Kerrys speech while asking a question

[Capt Caveman]

Reading some of the YouTube comments really irk me. Police state, Nazi's, etc...

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Seriously......I could have bounced him out single handedly with out any aid of anything. Shit any bouncer in any bar in this country could have ended that scene in a more swift and professional manner than 6 of those blundering police officers.

 

[MisterJackson]

He's trying real hard to be the next "Here's your fucking Patriot Act guy" isn't he.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
How the fuck did he deserve to be tasered after he was already handcuffed and restrained? He was asking what he did to be arrested and was a bit restless, but tasered? WTF are you people thinking? No reason to taser him there.

I don't think he was restrained... they were telling him to put his arm around his back so they could handcuff him. A pretty simple request, he kept disobeying, so his foolish ass got tasered.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman
I don't think they should have tasered him when they did. They had him restrained with 5 cops around him, if you can't handle a suspect with that much man power then you are just pathetic. The taser was an after the fact thing to punish the kid for being belligerent, it is not the cops duties to punish and put out judgment.

Honestly, if the cops had hit him with the taser earlier, I would not have a problem. But this was like kicking a restrained man.

he was fighting them and refusing to corporate.

tazering was fine. they gave him plenty of chances but he refused.

Yeah, but they restrained and cuffed him, then tasered. You should taser when you can't restrain, not after you restrain. Tasering is meant to be used to stop a suspect, not to punish him.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman
I don't think they should have tasered him when they did. They had him restrained with 5 cops around him, if you can't handle a suspect with that much man power then you are just pathetic. The taser was an after the fact thing to punish the kid for being belligerent, it is not the cops duties to punish and put out judgment.

Honestly, if the cops had hit him with the taser earlier, I would not have a problem. But this was like kicking a restrained man.

he was fighting them and refusing to corporate.

tazering was fine. they gave him plenty of chances but he refused.

Yeah, but they restrained and cuffed him, then tasered. You should taser when you can't restrain, not after you restrain. Tasering is meant to be used to stop a suspect, not to punish him.

From watching the vid, he was still resisting imho.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: rivan
Cliffs:

"You will be tased if you do not comply."
*resist*
"You will be tased if you do not comply."
*resist*
"You will be tased if you do not comply."
*resist*
*tase*

"WAH! What did I do? What did I do? What did I do?"

Great cliffs!

 

[Slick5150]

Tasering should only be a last resort for police. There were 5 of them (or so it appeared) they shouldn't have had any problem handcuffing him and taking him out. I'm not saying the kid didn't deserve to be arrested (based on the more detailed article it sounds like he did), but tasering him seemed excessive. There are real questions about the long term effects from being tasered.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman
I don't think they should have tasered him when they did. They had him restrained with 5 cops around him, if you can't handle a suspect with that much man power then you are just pathetic. The taser was an after the fact thing to punish the kid for being belligerent, it is not the cops duties to punish and put out judgment.

Honestly, if the cops had hit him with the taser earlier, I would not have a problem. But this was like kicking a restrained man.

he was fighting them and refusing to corporate.

tazering was fine. they gave him plenty of chances but he refused.

Yeah, but they restrained and cuffed him, then tasered. You should taser when you can't restrain, not after you restrain. Tasering is meant to be used to stop a suspect, not to punish him.

he was still resisting after being handcuffed.

 

[iamme]

"what did i do??"

OW!!

"what did i do??"

OW!!

"what did i do??"

OW!!

"what did i do??"

OW!!

:laugh:

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Tasering should only be a last resort for police. There were 5 of them (or so it appeared) they shouldn't have had any problem handcuffing him and taking him out. I'm not saying the kid didn't deserve to be arrested (based on the more detailed article it sounds like he did), but tasering him seemed excessive. There are real questions about the long term effects from being tasered.

Did you watch the video? There between a row of folding chairs in a room full of people.



I am very very rarely on the leo's side when things like this happen but it looks to me like they did the right thing.


He wasn't handcuffed yet either..

 

[zixxer]

Also, after hearing his "questions" I think that guy has some serious mental issues.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: mh47g
Shocking.

:thumbsup:

edit: LOL... everyone says "he deserved it!!!!!111" until it happens to them... then there would be a whine thread of epic proportions and OMG I WILL SUE!!! :heart: ATOT

Most of us are smart enough to realize that resisting arrest never turns out well. You deal with the situation through the proper methods.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman
I don't think they should have tasered him when they did. They had him restrained with 5 cops around him, if you can't handle a suspect with that much man power then you are just pathetic. The taser was an after the fact thing to punish the kid for being belligerent, it is not the cops duties to punish and put out judgment.

Honestly, if the cops had hit him with the taser earlier, I would not have a problem. But this was like kicking a restrained man.

he was fighting them and refusing to corporate.

tazering was fine. they gave him plenty of chances but he refused.

Yeah, but they restrained and cuffed him, then tasered. You should taser when you can't restrain, not after you restrain. Tasering is meant to be used to stop a suspect, not to punish him.

he was still resisting after being handcuffed.

And how far would he have gotten without being tasered? Would he have escaped custody without being tasered? Until he put one of the cops in danger (which he never did) there was no need for a taser. He was an idiot, yes, but that does not qualify tasering. You might as well be championing the cops to carry sedatives to give to victims that resist arrest.

Again, I stand by the fact that tasering, and any weapon for that matter, should be used as a last resort. It should never be used to punish (which it was its use here).

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Cogman
I don't think they should have tasered him when they did. They had him restrained with 5 cops around him, if you can't handle a suspect with that much man power then you are just pathetic. The taser was an after the fact thing to punish the kid for being belligerent, it is not the cops duties to punish and put out judgment.

Honestly, if the cops had hit him with the taser earlier, I would not have a problem. But this was like kicking a restrained man.

he was fighting them and refusing to corporate.

tazering was fine. they gave him plenty of chances but he refused.

Yeah, but they restrained and cuffed him, then tasered. You should taser when you can't restrain, not after you restrain. Tasering is meant to be used to stop a suspect, not to punish him.

he was still resisting after being handcuffed.

And how far would he have gotten without being tasered? Would he have escaped custody without being tasered? Until he put one of the cops in danger (which he never did) there was no need for a taser. He was an idiot, yes, but that does not qualify tasering. You might as well be championing the cops to carry sedatives to give to victims that resist arrest.

Again, I stand by the fact that tasering, and any weapon for that matter, should be used as a last resort. It should never be used to punish (which it was its use here).

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Seriously......I could have bounced him out single handedly with out any aid of anything. Shit any bouncer in any bar in this country could have ended that scene in a more swift and professional manner than 6 of those blundering police officers.

These are campus police we're talkin' about here .

 

[Feldenak]

I didn't read the thread but anytime a UF fan/student gets tasered an angel gets his wings...not to mention making me cackle like a hyena.

 

[911paramedic]

Another case for DonVito.

P.S. That is called resisting, CLEAR!

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: mh47g
Shocking.

:thumbsup:

edit: LOL... everyone says "he deserved it!!!!!111" until it happens to them... then there would be a whine thread of epic proportions and OMG I WILL SUE!!! :heart: ATOT

Most of us are smart enough to realize that resisting arrest never turns out well. You deal with the situation through the proper methods.

Thank you O moral compass of the interwebs

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: waggy
...

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

So, if the police say "Do this or ill do that." That automatically gives them the right to do whatever they want when you don't comply? Tasering is simply not an option when you have already restrained someone. Police in the past have gotten in trouble for smacking someone in the head after an arrest, why is this any different? The guy was an Idiot so the police can be idiots too? Sorry, that just doesn't fly with me.

Police are the enforcers of the law, not the executioners of judgment. If the big black police officer had punched the kid in the head, everyone here would be screaming police brutality, and yet they just caused the kid more pain then a punch to the head would ever cause and everyone is fine with that because he deserved it, and it looks like nothing wrong could happen.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy
...

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

So, if the police say "Do this or ill do that." That automatically gives them the right to do whatever they want when you don't comply? Tasering is simply not an option when you have already restrained someone. Police in the past have gotten in trouble for smacking someone in the head after an arrest, why is this any different? The guy was an Idiot so the police can be idiots too? Sorry, that just doesn't fly with me.

Police are the enforcers of the law, not the executioners of judgment. If the big black police officer had punched the kid in the head, everyone here would be screaming police brutality, and yet they just caused the kid more pain then a punch to the head would ever cause and everyone is fine with that because he deserved it, and it looks like nothing wrong could happen.

Just your opinion that he was restrained and not resisting.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy
...

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

So, if the police say "Do this or ill do that." That automatically gives them the right to do whatever they want when you don't comply? Tasering is simply not an option when you have already restrained someone. Police in the past have gotten in trouble for smacking someone in the head after an arrest, why is this any different? The guy was an Idiot so the police can be idiots too? Sorry, that just doesn't fly with me.

Police are the enforcers of the law, not the executioners of judgment. If the big black police officer had punched the kid in the head, everyone here would be screaming police brutality, and yet they just caused the kid more pain then a punch to the head would ever cause and everyone is fine with that because he deserved it, and it looks like nothing wrong could happen.

It doesn't look like he was handcuffed to me - he's holding onto the back of a chair so that they can't handcuff him.

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy
...

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

So, if the police say "Do this or ill do that." That automatically gives them the right to do whatever they want when you don't comply? Tasering is simply not an option when you have already restrained someone. Police in the past have gotten in trouble for smacking someone in the head after an arrest, why is this any different? The guy was an Idiot so the police can be idiots too? Sorry, that just doesn't fly with me.

Police are the enforcers of the law, not the executioners of judgment. If the big black police officer had punched the kid in the head, everyone here would be screaming police brutality, and yet they just caused the kid more pain then a punch to the head would ever cause and everyone is fine with that because he deserved it, and it looks like nothing wrong could happen.

He was not restrained, he was facing upwards and not cuffed. You are restrained when you no longer pose a threat to the officers and bystanders.

He was being an ass and trying to make a point, which it seems he did.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: waggy
...

and would he got tazered if he just did what was asked?

So, if the police say "Do this or ill do that." That automatically gives them the right to do whatever they want when you don't comply? Tasering is simply not an option when you have already restrained someone. Police in the past have gotten in trouble for smacking someone in the head after an arrest, why is this any different? The guy was an Idiot so the police can be idiots too? Sorry, that just doesn't fly with me.

Police are the enforcers of the law, not the executioners of judgment. If the big black police officer had punched the kid in the head, everyone here would be screaming police brutality, and yet they just caused the kid more pain then a punch to the head would ever cause and everyone is fine with that because he deserved it, and it looks like nothing wrong could happen.

you might have an argument if he was handcuffed. HE WAS NOT. he was on his back fighting them.

 

[FallenHero]

Nice to see Cogman talking out his ass when it comes to anything police related.