Why was he arrested in the first place? I can see them having reason to escort him off the premises for cutting in line and being an ass, but what law was broken?
Initially there was no law broken. At the point when they were trying to escort him out and he continued to yell and scream. Thats breach of peace. a misdemeanor ~$50 dollar fine that wouldn't even require booking necessarily. When he continued to create a disturbance they decided he needed to be booked for it so then it turned into resisting arrest.
Cogman
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Nice to see a contributing member of the forum nef. Thanks for all you added to this thread.
Did the police use excessive force? Yes, there where 5 of them to one guy, he was on his front (not his back) when they tasered him, they almost had him cuffed as well. There was no threat from him and as a result of the polices stupidity this guy is probably going to get a lighter sentence and one of the cops fired.
FallenHero
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Well...assuming that the story posted earlier in the thread is correct, disturbing the peace/disorderly conduct is an easy charge. I'd probably charge him with resisting as well just to get the point across. If he was asked to leave and did not do so, criminal trespass is another one...but I doubt that would go anywhere in this case.
eits
Lifer
No way he deserved to be tasered. From the sound of it, rushing in and forcing yourself on the microphone is not a way to deal with it. He should have been escorted to the back of the line for something like that. Like others poitned out -there were already multiple cops.
IMO this is about cops wanting to play with toys more than anything else, just like with the UCLA incident (although in the other one the student was simply studying). The question is whether or not the use of a taser was justified - or more basic methods were satisfactory...and I see no reason to bust out the taser
IMO this is about cops wanting to play with toys more than anything else, just like with the UCLA incident (although in the other one the student was simply studying). The question is whether or not the use of a taser was justified - or more basic methods were satisfactory...and I see no reason to bust out the taser
Miramonti
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He was physically fighting the cops away, pushing and resisting them. As far as they knew he could have tried to grab their gun. Who knows if he was on drugs as well.
If officers can't use force in return to subdue the aggrevation, we're basically advocating an anarchist state.
FallenHero
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Wrong. We are fully justified to use a taser when a person is actively resisting arrest. You have NO idea what you are talking about. The guy was not fully restrained nor was he compliant. Fighting with a person usually will result in greater injuries to BOTH the cops and the person resisting. A taser solves that problem quickly and without any lasting harm. You take away my taser, fighting with you might result in a wrist being broken or various muscles being torn. It's not a threat, it's a statement of fact. When you actually wrestle with someone who doesn't want to be arrested, come talk to me about what is justified and what isn't. Until then, don't talk out of your ass about things you know nothing about.
eits
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alkemyst
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Well I am all for in-your-face and loud, but I think it should be more like they used to decide things and if you were to afraid you may take a hit or two for your beliefs then keep your mouth shut.
What happens now is the money dictates where the laws go.
UF cops are notorious for stupidity...mostly due to a lot being rookies just graduated. I was coming down that last road where shands and the tennis courts are on and next thing I knew a cop flew past me in the on coming lane and came to a fast stop diagonal to me. I slam my brakes. I am thinking their must be something in the road or whatever (it was dark and a little rainy).
He flew up to my car ordering me out and barking all this crap I didn't understand.
Says my license is suspended due to insurance. I told him my insurance is in force and I have the card on me. He wants to arrest me so he calls for backup (since he is in training I guess he couldn't do it himself).
The other guy shows up figures out it's probably clerical asks if my wife can drive home since she was with me and in the morning we could figure it out.
In this instance the guy was being held and told the police he would leave. The one cop with the taser ready for a while probably just wanted to use it so he did. The guy was already subdued and being removed.
Asking WTF did one do is not a crime. He did overstay his time on the mike, but that is hardly something that warranted a potentially fatal tazeing.
A lot of people like sticking it to the outspoken since they don't have the balls needed to stick up for themselves.
He got what he deserved. You only get one chance to do what police ask you to do in this case. Once he decided to be disruptive, they had to remove him. He continued to resist so they tazed him. Good for them.
eits...hey old woman...
eits...hey old woman...
AMCRambler
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I think the police acted to soon. He finished his question said, "Ok I'm done" and then they went after him. What kind of crazy bullshit is that. Give him some room to leave. It looks like out of no where the cops just go after him. I'd be really pissed too if I was him.
Yes he's being an ass and moderately disruptive, but by no means should he have been arrested and tasered. Thrown out yes, but not tasered. Where are our rights?
Yes he's being an ass and moderately disruptive, but by no means should he have been arrested and tasered. Thrown out yes, but not tasered. Where are our rights?
"You have 20 seconds to comply."
"Your move, creep."
They should make a new RoboCop movie where instead of an automatic Beretta, RoboCop has a taser. With individual prongs that shoot out of his fingers. And his eyes. Yeah, that would be awesome.
"Your move, creep."
They should make a new RoboCop movie where instead of an automatic Beretta, RoboCop has a taser. With individual prongs that shoot out of his fingers. And his eyes. Yeah, that would be awesome.
MmmSkyscraper
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eits
Lifer
thank youas soon as he started getting escorted away and jumping around with his arms flailing, i thought, "help! help! i'm being repressed!" and, thought, "he should say that... that'd be hilarious." sure enough, he started shouting for help, but he didn't say the line
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