U.S. to make Iraq intelligence public

Queasy

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About time. This is something that should have been done weeks ago before the Axis of Weasels and the anti-war groups got going.
 

911paramedic

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How about posting some of the article, I don't play the "just give us a little info" game.
 

Queasy

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Here's the first few paragrahs (and nobody said you had to give correct demographic information to view this :))

The Bush administration has assembled what it believes to be significant intelligence showing that Iraq has been actively moving and concealing banned weapons systems and related equipment from United Nations inspectors, according to informed sources.

After a lengthy debate over what and how much of the intelligence to disclose, President Bush and his national security advisers have decided to declassify some of the information and make it public, perhaps as early as next week, in an effort to garner more domestic and international support for confronting Iraqi President Saddam Hussein with military force, officials said.

"The United States possesses several pieces of information which come from the work of our intelligence that show Iraq maintains prohibited weapons," Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said in an interview published yesterday in an Italian newspaper. "Once we have made sure it can be done safely, I think that in the next week or soon after we can make public a good part of this material."

The information was gathered by U.S. intelligence agencies from what officials characterized as an array of sources and methods. The administration believes it shows that senior Iraqi officials and military officers who report to members of Hussein's inner circle have personally directed the movement and camouflage of the weapons or have knowledge of the operations, the sources said.

The concealment efforts have often taken place days or hours ahead of visits by U.N. inspection teams, which have been operating in Iraq during the past two months, according to these accounts. In many cases, the United States has what one source called "compelling" intelligence that is "unambiguous" in proving that Iraq is hiding banned weapons.

Speaking to reporters yesterday, Powell said that U.N. inspectors have picked up similar indications of Iraqi concealment and that the United States supported the inspectors' claims. "The inspectors have also told us that they have evidence that Iraq has moved or hidden items at sites just prior to inspection visits. That's what the inspectors say, not what Americans say, not what American intelligence says," he said. "Well, we certainly corroborate all of that, but this is information from the inspectors."

 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: Czar
weeks? months is more like it

Yeah thats smart. So our agents can be discovered and killed. I love having our brave operatives killed because some stupid americans can't wait and want to question everything we do.

At least this way, hopefully we have gotten them out of harms way.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Thera
Another day, another nef.
Hey Thera....STFU you mindless troll!!! Isn't there some sort of socialist America hating bake sale you should be at? Stay away from the brownies though, I hear they made them with Mexican weed instead of the good stuff.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Thera
Another day, another nef.
Hey Thera....STFU you mindless troll!!! Isn't there some sort of socialist America hating bake sale you should be at? Stay away from the brownies though, I hear they made them with Mexican weed instead of the good stuff.

Hear, hear. Stupid people should have to wear a sign that says they're stupid. In this case, the sign should be above their post so you read the warning before you read their post.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Czar
weeks? months is more like it

Yeah thats smart. So our agents can be discovered and killed. I love having our brave operatives killed because some stupid americans can't wait and want to question everything we do.

At least this way, hopefully we have gotten them out of harms way.

Yeah, we should all take Bush's words as The Truth because the US government never lies....

rolleye.gif
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Czar
weeks? months is more like it

Yeah thats smart. So our agents can be discovered and killed. I love having our brave operatives killed because some stupid americans can't wait and want to question everything we do.

At least this way, hopefully we have gotten them out of harms way.

Yeah, we should all take Bush's words as The Truth because the US government never lies....

rolleye.gif


I am not saying they don't lie. Take Clinton as a PERFECT example. My point is that when the time is appropriate all the questions would be answered. We can't leave operatives in situations that will get them killed just because you have a question.
 

43st

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Thera
Another day, another nef.
Hey Thera....STFU you mindless troll!!! Isn't there some sort of socialist America hating bake sale you should be at? Stay away from the brownies though, I hear they made them with Mexican weed instead of the good stuff.

Hear, hear. Stupid people should have to wear a sign that says they're stupid. In this case, the sign should be above their post so you read the warning before you read their post.

Interesting... I call a post subject nef and you respond with more nef. Come on guys get back on task.

Bush had concrete evidence in the past, and it turned up to be nothing. So what will it be this time?

Chicken Hawk Little is running around the farm yard again. Oooooo... Better watch that sky, hinges seem a little loose again.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Thera
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Thera
Another day, another nef.
Hey Thera....STFU you mindless troll!!! Isn't there some sort of socialist America hating bake sale you should be at? Stay away from the brownies though, I hear they made them with Mexican weed instead of the good stuff.

Hear, hear. Stupid people should have to wear a sign that says they're stupid. In this case, the sign should be above their post so you read the warning before you read their post.

Interesting... I call a post subject nef and you respond with more nef. Come on guys get back on task.

Bush had concrete evidence in the past, and it turned up to be nothing. So what will it be this time?

Chicken Hawk Little is running around the farm yard again. Oooooo... Better watch that sky, hinges seem a little loose again.

This is just part of what the UN Inspectors reported to the UN yesteday:

? Evidence that it had tried to put VX, the deadliest form of nerve gas, into weapon-usable form.

? One thousand tons of missing poison gas contained in 6,500 chemical bombs.

? Several thousand missing rocket warheads for carrying poison gas.

? Some 8,500 missing liters of anthrax and enough growth media to produce 5,000 liters more.

? The illegal import of 300 rocket engines and other components for ballistic missiles.

? Illegal tests of long-range missiles that Iraq is not supposed to possess.

? Three-thousand pages of undeclared documents on the enrichment of uranium at the home of an Iraqi nuclear-weapon scientist.

Chicken little indeed...
 

reitz

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Originally posted by: BooneRebel
Demographic information to read the paper? I don't think so...
Why not? All they ask is your gender, age, and zipcode. There's nothing personally identifiable there, so why do you have a problem with providing it to read the Washington Post?

 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Czar
weeks? months is more like it

Yeah thats smart. So our agents can be discovered and killed. I love having our brave operatives killed because some stupid americans can't wait and want to question everything we do.

At least this way, hopefully we have gotten them out of harms way.

Yeah, we should all take Bush's words as The Truth because the US government never lies....

rolleye.gif


I am not saying they don't lie. Take Clinton as a PERFECT example. My point is that when the time is appropriate all the questions would be answered. We can't leave operatives in situations that will get them killed just because you have a question.

The time for questions is NOW, BEFORE the war starts.
 

XMan

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Here's another article

Mr. Fleischer said yesterday there have been contacts between "senior Iraqi officials and members of the al Qaeda organization going back for quite a long time. We know, too, that several of the detainees, particularly some of the high-level detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al Qaeda in chemical weapons development."
 

Electrode

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Well, here's the way I'm looking at it: show me real proof, NOT bullshit from a conservative-run "news" agency or Bush's spin and propaganda department, that Iraq helped Osama and co. attack us, either in the 1993 WTC bombing, the 2001 WTC/Pentagon attack, or a US embassy bombing, and I'll turn completely around and support a war against Iraq. I've still got plenty of things I hate Bush for, but this is one thing I can be made to support.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: fluxquantum
whatever happened with north korea?

China, South Korea, and Japan currently in talks with North Korea about ending their nuclear program.

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: Czar
weeks? months is more like it

Yeah thats smart. So our agents can be discovered and killed. I love having our brave operatives killed because some stupid americans can't wait and want to question everything we do.

At least this way, hopefully we have gotten them out of harms way.

Yeah, we should all take Bush's words as The Truth because the US government never lies....

rolleye.gif


I am not saying they don't lie. Take Clinton as a PERFECT example. My point is that when the time is appropriate all the questions would be answered. We can't leave operatives in situations that will get them killed just because you have a question.

The time for questions is NOW, BEFORE the war starts.

I'd say some of the important questions were answered yesteday by Hans Blix in his report to the UN.

This is just part of what the UN Inspectors reported to the UN yesteday:

? Evidence that it had tried to put VX, the deadliest form of nerve gas, into weapon-usable form.

? One thousand tons of missing poison gas contained in 6,500 chemical bombs.

? Several thousand missing rocket warheads for carrying poison gas.

? Some 8,500 missing liters of anthrax and enough growth media to produce 5,000 liters more.

? The illegal import of 300 rocket engines and other components for ballistic missiles.

? Illegal tests of long-range missiles that Iraq is not supposed to possess.

? Three-thousand pages of undeclared documents on the enrichment of uranium at the home of an Iraqi nuclear-weapon scientist.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: fluxquantum
whatever happened with north korea?

no oil == no war

Oil has nothing to do with it. The reason military force is not currently being considered seriously for the North Korean problem is because the North has nukes and would use them to turn the Korean Peninsula into a glowing wasteland. You see that's the exact reason we are going after Iraq. You have to take out these rogue nations BEFORE they get the capability to use WMD against their neighbors or blackmail the international community.

As for the oil issue. If you really look at a country that is motivated by the oil in Iraq you need to look at France, Germany, and Russia. Their whole objection to a U.S. invasion of Iraq is based on their oil contracts with them.