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U.S. Media Bias

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SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: axiom
Humans are biased. Can't really blame the media for that. What else are they supposed to do? They report on stuff that happens. They can only do so much with the limited information they have access to. The bottomline, we should all be getting our news from multiple sources. With the Internet you now have viewpoints from every country. Google News is a great way to get the NYC media view and the Karachi media view within 1 click of eachother.

Always remember to take any news that names anonymous sources as just that. The media is not a court of law. They are interested in one thing, selling more papers or getting more viewers.


The u.s. media reports on stuff that happens, but also has selective memory. this is why it is biased. for example, i found out Madlenine Albright made some comment on how the iraqi people deserved what they got back in 1991-92. it was briefly reported, then yanked, by cnn and other stations due to our govt.'s intervention. Oh yeah this is a democracy i forgot. god know how many other things have not been reported. in the past. it shows that the govt. clearly has the ability to hush up the media.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Ornery
Let me get this straight, hagbard. After scoping this ALL out in a balanced fashion, you'd side with who? The Palistinians and Saddam?

I certainly do side with the Palestinians, and while I don't care for Saddam, he is far from the worst of the lot. You have to be blind if you don't see Bush's 'game plan'. He is, imo, a greater danger to world security than Saddam could ever be.

In the spirit of this thread... by picking sides, you're saying you're biased and we should ignore you. Thanks for the heads up.
 

Red Dawn

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I don't like either side. If it were up to mne I'd stop sending those rat bastards in the Middle East any money at all..both Jews and Arabs(well their governments). Fortunately for those who think differently than me that will never happen. I do feel sorry for the innocent victims on both sides. I also feel that the other Arab Nations are just using the Palestineans as Pawns.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Ornery
Let me get this straight, hagbard. After scoping this ALL out in a balanced fashion, you'd side with who? The Palistinians and Saddam?

I certainly do side with the Palestinians, and while I don't care for Saddam, he is far from the worst of the lot. You have to be blind if you don't see Bush's 'game plan'. He is, imo, a greater danger to world security than Saddam could ever be.
Anybody that stoops to terrorism to achieve their goals, has got to be near, if not, the lowest form of life on the planet! The people who support them are not far behind! :frown:

Saddam cut his own throat. Breaks my heart , it does
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hagbard

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Ornery
Let me get this straight, hagbard. After scoping this ALL out in a balanced fashion, you'd side with who? The Palistinians and Saddam?

I certainly do side with the Palestinians, and while I don't care for Saddam, he is far from the worst of the lot. You have to be blind if you don't see Bush's 'game plan'. He is, imo, a greater danger to world security than Saddam could ever be.

In the spirit of this thread... by picking sides, you're saying you're biased and we should ignore you. Thanks for the heads up.

Suppose I could do what the N. American media does and just deceive you into supporting one side?
Not that it would work, they've got the money, numbers and talent for it.
 

dolph

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't like either side. If it were up to mne I'd stop sending those rat bastards in the Middle East any money at all..both Jews and Arabs(well their governments). Fortunately for those who think differently than me that will never happen. I do feel sorry for the innocent victims on both sides. I also feel that the other Arab Nations are just using the Palestineans as Pawns.

you meant "jews and muslims," right? not "jews and arabs?"
 

Moonbeam

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As long as people are prevented by their own self loathing from identifying with their true identity they will seek and defend to the death and all manner of false identities. These will be to family, to club or group, to team, to state, race, nation and on and on and on. Until people are able to find the jewel contained in the ashes of their own being, humanity will cling to empty externals forever condemned to the wheel of karmic struggle with the enemy. We are all the same. We have met the enemy and he is us. The enemy is that is us we will not see.
 

0roo0roo

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maximize civilian deaths = terrorists = palestinians.

sorry, israelis don't do that no matter how much you hate them:p
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't like either side. If it were up to mne I'd stop sending those rat bastards in the Middle East any money at all..both Jews and Arabs(well their governments). Fortunately for those who think differently than me that will never happen. I do feel sorry for the innocent victims on both sides. I also feel that the other Arab Nations are just using the Palestineans as Pawns.

Very good point. No side is "innocent", but for many people, its the picking of the lesser of two evils. Almost all media is "biased" because countries look out for their own self interest. Don't know where you guys have been since media as a whole was formed.
 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't like either side. If it were up to mne I'd stop sending those rat bastards in the Middle East any money at all..both Jews and Arabs(well their governments). Fortunately for those who think differently than me that will never happen. I do feel sorry for the innocent victims on both sides. I also feel that the other Arab Nations are just using the Palestineans as Pawns.

you meant "jews and muslims," right? not "jews and arabs?"

bah, same thing. You can look at this as a religious conflict, or you can look at it as an ethnic conflict. Either one is valid IMO, since each ethnicity's identity is so wrapped up in its own religion.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't like either side. If it were up to mne I'd stop sending those rat bastards in the Middle East any money at all..both Jews and Arabs(well their governments). Fortunately for those who think differently than me that will never happen. I do feel sorry for the innocent victims on both sides. I also feel that the other Arab Nations are just using the Palestineans as Pawns.

you meant "jews and muslims," right? not "jews and arabs?"

bah, same thing. You can look at this as a religious conflict, or you can look at it as an ethnic conflict. Either one is valid IMO, since each ethnicity's identity is so wrapped up in its own religion.

thats so false. There are many arabs that are Coptic Christian for example. Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians...

And when it comes down to it, Jews and 'Arabs' are the same race of people, just different religion.
 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
thats so false. There are many arabs that are Coptic Christian for example. Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians...

Lebanon: 70% Muslim
Syria: 90% Muslim
Egypt: 94% Muslim

You're right, that may be a fair number of people numerically, but when it comes to percentages, non-Muslim Arabs are a drop in the bucket.

And when it comes down to it, Jews and 'Arabs' are the same race of people, just different religion.

I agree with you about the race thing, but I consider Jewishness (for lack of a better word) as much an ethnicity as Hispanicity (again, for lack of a better word). It's passed down maternally, and it's essentially orthogonal to race (i.e. you can be of any race and still be Jewish or Hispanic, yet both traits are inherited from one's parents). It's something that you're born into, not that you willingly become (with a few exceptions).
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

And when it comes down to it, Jews and 'Arabs' are the same race of people, just different religion.


Actually, no. I'd love to see them do a DNA sample of the jews of Israel and compare it with the DNA from the remains of the people of Palestine pre-modern era. I'm willing to bet that the Palestinians would match up, the "Israelis" would not. Its pretty well known that most of the world's jewish people have roots not in "Israel" but Russia. Go down to your local bookstore and pickup "Castastrophe" by David Keys.
 

Piano Man

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Good post and true. I remember when someone told me that if I read non corporate/american newsites that I would have a much different take on the world. When I first started to read them, I thought that they were full of sh!t because it went against alot of things I saw on the news stations everyday. I think a lot of people here are at that point. But the more research I did, the more I realized when you remove corporate and government ties, the more the story changes ALOT. The terms change, and more things were brought to light. Now I read mostly wolrd publications that are non-profit and have no government ties. Unfortunately, its about the only way to get close to the truth anymore.
 

Piano Man

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as people are prevented by their own self loathing from identifying with their true identity they will seek and defend to the death and all manner of false identities. These will be to family, to club or group, to team, to state, race, nation and on and on and on. Until people are able to find the jewel contained in the ashes of their own being, humanity will cling to empty externals forever condemned to the wheel of karmic struggle with the enemy. We are all the same. We have met the enemy and he is us. The enemy is that is us we will not see.

True dat.
 

0roo0roo

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worst example fo shody us media bias are during olympics. coverage is plain sad.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
Good post and true. I remember when someone told me that if I read non corporate/american newsites that I would have a much different take on the world. When I first started to read them, I thought that they were full of sh!t because it went against alot of things I saw on the news stations everyday. I think a lot of people here are at that point. But the more research I did, the more I realized when you remove corporate and government ties, the more the story changes ALOT. The terms change, and more things were brought to light. Now I read mostly wolrd publications that are non-profit and have no government ties. Unfortunately, its about the only way to get close to the truth anymore.

Actually media from any source is fairly predictable. International media is no different.

 

etech

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as people are prevented by their own self loathing from identifying with their true identity they will seek and defend to the death and all manner of false identities. These will be to family, to club or group, to team, to state, race, nation and on and on and on. Until people are able to find the jewel contained in the ashes of their own being, humanity will cling to empty externals forever condemned to the wheel of karmic struggle with the enemy. We are all the same. We have met the enemy and he is us. The enemy is that is us we will not see.

Moonie, this is not the first post where you have referred to your self-loathing nature. Perhaps you should seek professional help. It's not normal or healthy for you to hate yourself so much. From a layman's view it could be that you are suffering from an onset of depression. Get some help.
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Would some of the people that are so vehemently opposed to the US media post links to their "unbiased" sources so the rest of us may benefit from them.


 
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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
As long as people are prevented by their own self loathing from identifying with their true identity they will seek and defend to the death and all manner of false identities. These will be to family, to club or group, to team, to state, race, nation and on and on and on. Until people are able to find the jewel contained in the ashes of their own being, humanity will cling to empty externals forever condemned to the wheel of karmic struggle with the enemy. We are all the same. We have met the enemy and he is us. The enemy is that is us we will not see.

Moonie, this is not the first post where you have referred to your self-loathing nature. Perhaps you should seek professional help. It's not normal or healthy for you to hate yourself so much. From a layman's view it could be that you are suffering from an onset of depression. Get some help.
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Would some of the people that are so vehemently opposed to the US media post links to their "unbiased" sources so the rest of us may benefit from them.
I post news articles on ATOT almost exclusively from Reuters, the BBC, and the French Press Agency (AFP) . And certain people on here still want to call me brainwashed. :disgust:
 

freakflag

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I know how to procure world peace.

All of you self righteous finger-pointers turn off the cable and stop worrying about what's going on in someone elses back yard.
Ever heard the saying "If you watch the pennies, the dollars take care of themselves." ?
The same principal applies with human socio-interaction.
Go mow your lawn or something because you're all idiots and, sooner or later, (with any luck) you'll all be dead.
Peace, you sanctimonious dolts.
 

PistachioByAzul

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Let's see...who is anyone to claim anyone else is brainwashed. The nature of being brainwashed is that you don't know, so who are you to say that you aren't brainwashed?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Let's see...who is anyone to claim anyone else is brainwashed. The nature of being brainwashed is that you don't know, so who are you to say that you aren't brainwashed?


Give us your definition of brainwashed as you are using it in this thread and an example of how I might be brainwashed. Let?s deal with some specifics.

Do you believe that Israel had anything to do with the incidents on 9/11? Are the people that still believe that lie brainwashed? Who brainwashed them and why?