Tyson Foods Drops Labor Day For Muslim Holiday Instead

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
This isn't an issue. Grow up and stop being a racist.

You need to grow up and understand the definition of "racist". moron.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
This isn't an issue. Grow up and stop being a racist.

You need to grow up and understand the definition of "racist". moron.

Time to call all Americans "Racists".

End of problem.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Nebor
They don't see this as democracy at work, or tolerance. They see this as weakness, and a lack of caring about our own holidays, traditions and culture.

Why is the majority of workers in a plant choosing the day off that works for the most of them anything but democracy at work? You honestly think Tyson allowing their employees to more easily celebrate their religious holidays is a bad thing?

This thread is retarded, but it will be fun to watch it bring out the crazies.

 

[dawp]

typical Socio thread. who wants to bet within 6 months or less, those saying they will never buy tyson again will. And tyson is the only chicken is sold in some stores. and if it isn't labeled how can you tell if it's tyson or not?


I see no problem with this, it's what they want, so why not? it wouldn't matter to me as long as i get a day off anyways. labor day or oct. 1 doesn't really matter. And besides I tend to work holidays for the extra pay.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Nebor
They don't see this as democracy at work, or tolerance. They see this as weakness, and a lack of caring about our own holidays, traditions and culture.

If they see it that way, it's only because it is true.

Do you really care about MLK Jr. Day? What kind of celebration/commemoration did you have? What about Labor Day? Did you do anything special for it other than get drunk and polish your gun?

What about Washington's Birthday or Columbus Day?

The fact of the matter is the non-Muslim employees at Tyson are probably like a great majority of Americans and could give two shits about any holiday other than Xmas, Thanksgiving or New Years. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that most Americans would vote to make the Monday after the Super Bowl a federal holiday over the ones that I listed earlier in this thread so that they can get smashed and not have to worry about Monday morning hangover after the game.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Socio

What holiday will be next to be taken away and replaced to accommodate an immigrant's?

You are a racist. Unless you are a native American you are all immigrants.

And you're a dumbass. I was born in America, I'm just as native to this country as a "native American". And if you wanna be an idiot about it, "native Americans" are also immigrants, their ancestors immigrated here from Eurasia.

Disclaimer - I am not defending socio, because I'm pretty sure he is a racist, I'm just pointing out how stupid the "OMG you're all immigrants" argument is.

So that's even a more bizarre argument from Socio. In 20 years the "immigrants" sons and daughters will probably have the same culture and thoughts as their parents. Would "islamization" then be justified?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Socio

What holiday will be next to be taken away and replaced to accommodate an immigrant's?

You are a racist. Unless you are a native American you are all immigrants.

And you're a dumbass. I was born in America, I'm just as native to this country as a "native American". And if you wanna be an idiot about it, "native Americans" are also immigrants, their ancestors immigrated here from Eurasia.

Disclaimer - I am not defending socio, because I'm pretty sure he is a racist, I'm just pointing out how stupid the "OMG you're all immigrants" argument is.

So that's even a more bizarre argument from Socio. In 20 years the "immigrants" sons and daughters will probably have the same culture and thoughts as their parents. Would "islamization" then be justified?

Of course not.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Socio

What holiday will be next to be taken away and replaced to accommodate an immigrant's?

You are a racist. Unless you are a native American you are all immigrants.

And you're a dumbass. I was born in America, I'm just as native to this country as a "native American". And if you wanna be an idiot about it, "native Americans" are also immigrants, their ancestors immigrated here from Eurasia.

Disclaimer - I am not defending socio, because I'm pretty sure he is a racist, I'm just pointing out how stupid the "OMG you're all immigrants" argument is.

So that's even a more bizarre argument from Socio. In 20 years the "immigrants" sons and daughters will probably have the same culture and thoughts as their parents. Would "islamization" then be justified?

Of course not.

What if the majority wants it? Does democracy not work then?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Socio

What holiday will be next to be taken away and replaced to accommodate an immigrant's?

You are a racist. Unless you are a native American you are all immigrants.

And you're a dumbass. I was born in America, I'm just as native to this country as a "native American". And if you wanna be an idiot about it, "native Americans" are also immigrants, their ancestors immigrated here from Eurasia.

Disclaimer - I am not defending socio, because I'm pretty sure he is a racist, I'm just pointing out how stupid the "OMG you're all immigrants" argument is.

So that's even a more bizarre argument from Socio. In 20 years the "immigrants" sons and daughters will probably have the same culture and thoughts as their parents. Would "islamization" then be justified?

Of course not.

What if the majority wants it? Does democracy not work then?

1. The overwhelming majority of this country is Christian, so that's not even a possibility.

2. We are a secular nation, so "islamization" will never be justified. If you want to "islamize" a country, feel free to return to one of the many muslim countries that already exist.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Socio

What holiday will be next to be taken away and replaced to accommodate an immigrant's?

You are a racist. Unless you are a native American you are all immigrants.

And you're a dumbass. I was born in America, I'm just as native to this country as a "native American". And if you wanna be an idiot about it, "native Americans" are also immigrants, their ancestors immigrated here from Eurasia.

Disclaimer - I am not defending socio, because I'm pretty sure he is a racist, I'm just pointing out how stupid the "OMG you're all immigrants" argument is.

So that's even a more bizarre argument from Socio. In 20 years the "immigrants" sons and daughters will probably have the same culture and thoughts as their parents. Would "islamization" then be justified?

Of course not.

What if the majority wants it? Does democracy not work then?

1. The overwhelming majority of this country is Christian, so that's not even a possibility.

2. We are a secular nation, so "islamization" will never be justified. If you want to "islamize" a country, feel free to return to one of the many muslim countries that already exist.

I'm just giving a hypothetical situation. So you're really a theocratic christian secular democracy then. So in the end secularism is a higher priority than what the majority want? That's just like religion then. It will be that no matter what!

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: techs
I suppose you also are against the Christianization of America? Seems most union contracts call for a Christmas day holiday.
In NYC many contracts call for one or more Jewish holidays off. Are you complaining about that?
Amazing how the hate is flowing in America. One very small company changes a holiday to accomadate the majority of its workers and somehow its the end of Western Civilization.

Yes, I am for secularizing America entirely. Starting with the withdrawal of tax free status for religion based businesses (ie: churches, synagogues, mosques.) The end of funding any "faith based initiatives." In the end, those standing in the ashes of a church dedicated to an imaginary god will look up and see the flag of the United States, and that will be what they worship. Because it was America that made itself great, that dominated the world, not god. Let the gods of all religion burn in the fires of modern secularism. :thumbsup:

Couldn't agree with you more.
:thumbsup:

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

I'm just giving a hypothetical situation. So you're really a theocratic christian secular democracy then. So in the end secularism is a higher priority than what the majority want? That's just like religion then. It will be that no matter what!

No, it's nothing like religion.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

I'm just giving a hypothetical situation. So you're really a theocratic christian secular democracy then. So in the end secularism is a higher priority than what the majority want? That's just like religion then. It will be that no matter what!

No, it's nothing like religion.

What's the difference?

 

[sandorski]

1930's Germany called, they want their talking points back.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

I'm just giving a hypothetical situation. So you're really a theocratic christian secular democracy then. So in the end secularism is a higher priority than what the majority want? That's just like religion then. It will be that no matter what!

No, it's nothing like religion.

What's the difference?

Listen, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you whatever it is that you are trying to argue. If you can't tell the difference between the unbending rules of religion, and the laws made by a Democratic society, then I'm not going to be able to help you here.

Yes, there are a few laws that the majority cannot change, but that does not in any way, shape, or form make a Democratic society like religion. That's like saying that the sky is blue, and a smurf is blue, so a smurf is just like the sky.

I don't argue about religion, so I'm not going down that road with you.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Zorba

Tyson company spokeswoman Libby Lawson said by phone that, "This isn't a religious accommodation, this is a contractual agreement. The majority asked for it."

If you don't like majority rule don't be in a Union. The majority of the people in the union wanted a different holiday, Tyson didn't want to have a strike or other labor disruptions so they said why not.

But the power of Union should NOT be used to push religious agenda in the work place which is exactly what they are using it for, it is a misuse of power and the Union needs to be broke or it will only get worse.

So, you'd be against them pushing for having Christmas day as a holiday?

 

[bamacre]

A real conservative would not want to interfere in Tyson Food's business practices.

But that is not what we have in the Republican party these days. Conservatives. They have destroyed their own ideals in trying to destroy the ideals of others.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Zorba

Tyson company spokeswoman Libby Lawson said by phone that, "This isn't a religious accommodation, this is a contractual agreement. The majority asked for it."

If you don't like majority rule don't be in a Union. The majority of the people in the union wanted a different holiday, Tyson didn't want to have a strike or other labor disruptions so they said why not.

But the power of Union should NOT be used to push religious agenda in the work place which is exactly what they are using it for, it is a misuse of power and the Union needs to be broke or it will only get worse.

So, you'd be against them pushing for having Christmas day as a holiday?

Honestly, I think Christmas has gone well beyond a religious holiday in this country.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: bamacre
A real conservative would not want to interfere in Tyson Food's business practices.

But that is not what we have in the Republican party these days. Conservatives. They have destroyed their own ideals in trying to destroy the ideals of others.

:thumbsup:

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: bamacre
A real conservative would not want to interfere in Tyson Food's business practices.

But that is not what we have in the Republican party these days. Conservatives. They have destroyed their own ideals in trying to destroy the ideals of others.

:beer:

I wonder if I can lobby my company to add this new holiday as an "additional" company paid holiday...I need another paid day off!

Edit: I personally don't give a shit about this. How many of you boycott gasoline/oil because they are produced in Islamic countries and the likes? I'm sure ZERO.

Edit #2: I don't buy Tyson chicken (or any chicken for that most part) so blah!

 

[Shortass]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Zorba

Tyson company spokeswoman Libby Lawson said by phone that, "This isn't a religious accommodation, this is a contractual agreement. The majority asked for it."

If you don't like majority rule don't be in a Union. The majority of the people in the union wanted a different holiday, Tyson didn't want to have a strike or other labor disruptions so they said why not.

But the power of Union should NOT be used to push religious agenda in the work place which is exactly what they are using it for, it is a misuse of power and the Union needs to be broke or it will only get worse.

So, you'd be against them pushing for having Christmas day as a holiday?

Honestly, I think Christmas has gone well beyond a religious holiday in this country.

It has, it's become a cultural holiday much like July 4th and New Years (also religious), but that doesn't change the fact that it (and Easter) are based off of Christian dates of significance. This topic of course is ridiculous, but it's hard to expect much more. I couldn't care less when paid holidays are... I get paid for other people caring about certain days? Awesome!

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: techs
I suppose you also are against the Christianization of America? Seems most union contracts call for a Christmas day holiday.
In NYC many contracts call for one or more Jewish holidays off. Are you complaining about that?
Amazing how the hate is flowing in America. One very small company changes a holiday to accomadate the majority of its workers and somehow its the end of Western Civilization.

The PC crowd has changed it so Christmas is no longer viewed as a ?Christian? holiday, and if NYC has contracts that call for one or more Jewish holidays off, that would just as wrong and should be abolished.

Where are we going to draw the line and when?

This is just another example of where it looks like we are not, we are just going to jump when they say jump, our ways be damn, what matter most is accommodating theirs.

B&H photo, a very respected photography store in NYC, closes on Saturday to observe the Jewish sabbath.

I guess you think that is wrong as well?

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: JD50


Listen, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you whatever it is that you are trying to argue. If you can't tell the difference between the unbending rules of religion, and the laws made by a Democratic society, then I'm not going to be able to help you here.

Yes, there are a few laws that the majority cannot change, but that does not in any way, shape, or form make a Democratic society like religion. That's like saying that the sky is blue, and a smurf is blue, so a smurf is just like the sky.

I don't argue about religion, so I'm not going down that road with you.

So if the majority argues in favour of religion wouldn't it be democratic to actually listen? It would be the laws made by a democratic society then. And this is not like exact science. Laws are not exact science. Just because you think something is a good law doesn't make it so.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: techs
Yes, I am for secularizing America entirely. Starting with the withdrawal of tax free status for religion based businesses (ie: churches, synagogues, mosques.) The end of funding any "faith based initiatives." In the end, those standing in the ashes of a church dedicated to an imaginary god will look up and see the flag of the United States, and that will be what they worship. Because it was America that made itself great, that dominated the world, not god. Let the gods of all religion burn in the fires of modern secularism. :thumbsup:

So . . . no celebrating Christmas? That's literally represents 75% of many retailers yearly gross. We MUST keep it, but since Jesus most likely wasn't even born on Dec. 25 anyway -- Orthodox Christians celebrate Jan. 6th -- perhaps we can rename it Near Winter Solstice Spending Opportunity Day!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: JD50


Listen, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you whatever it is that you are trying to argue. If you can't tell the difference between the unbending rules of religion, and the laws made by a Democratic society, then I'm not going to be able to help you here.

Yes, there are a few laws that the majority cannot change, but that does not in any way, shape, or form make a Democratic society like religion. That's like saying that the sky is blue, and a smurf is blue, so a smurf is just like the sky.

I don't argue about religion, so I'm not going down that road with you.

So if the majority argues in favour of religion wouldn't it be democratic to actually listen? It would be the laws made by a democratic society then. And this is not like exact science. Laws are not exact science. Just because you think something is a good law doesn't make it so.

Yeah but if we let that happen we'd end up with a messed up country like Pakistan.