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Two explosions reported at Boston Marathon finish line! **Suspect #2 in Custody!!**

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TraumaRN said:
Yeah just watched that high res on my girlfriends computer. She was just laying there. They moved away from her quite quickly. She was clearly dead/dying at that point given that they moved away from her so quickly.

Confirms what I was thinking they moved her to essentially clear the scene so as not to leave a mangled dead body on the street. She most likely didn't suffer at all. And they probably did CPR because well, people are watching, and you don't want to look like you are doing nothing, and again it goes back to training as well, they did CPR because it's practically muscle memory.
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I don't want to watch the video but that may not be indicative of her being dead. The first thing you do in a mass casualty situation is triage, there are assigned people who are not going to treat anybody until they tag all the injured (I want to say green, red, and black. red gets attention, black is dead or not savable, green can help themselves).
 
TallBill said:
Was a mix of fire producing and shrapnel producing explosive. An actual claymore could have produced far more casualties.

Remember to take everything with a grain of salt when morons like pierce Morgan are reporting them. He's looking for certain words to throw out to keep his audience captivated.
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I'm going to throw my hat in the speculation ring and say it wasn't foreign nationals. If you are going to come here from abroad and plan something like this, with that kind of crowd, you are going to kill a lot more people. I don't see some huge conspiracy involving a crude bomb.. I would just guess a lone nut.

Obviously no facts to support that it just seems odd to be the bomb was so small given the size of the crowd
 
Farang said:
I don't want to watch the video but that may not be indicative of her being dead. The first thing you do in a mass casualty situation is triage, there are assigned people who are not going to treat anybody until they tag all the injured (I want to say green, red, and black. red gets attention, black is dead or not savable, green can help themselves).
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If you watch the video and the photo of her lying on the ground with eyes wide open and an EMS checking her pulse AND another photo of several people taking her body away on a gurney - it validates what TraumaRN is saying.

In the photo her eyes was wide open (not blinking) and the EMS lady was checking for a pulse on the neck.

The taking her away on a gurney with one guy doing a one handed CPR thingy may be just for them to keep trying and not cause of panic.

Then when you watch the video in slow motion of the same scene in the photos... the people around her and their reaction = she passed... they were busy with helping everyone else around her.
 
The guy who had both his legs blown off, you could see he wasn't being helped initially - obviously he got his help. But seemingly everyone else had people around them but him.

In another picture of him being helped his face is completely flush (pale white). I hope this guy survives. With medical advancements, he can lead a fairly normal life. i read he in stable condition, cool.
 
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TraumaRN said:
Its the same woman. Her shirt is cut off and now that I'm off work the one angle where she's on the stretcher they are actually doing CPR. The one man is hanging onto the stretcher and doing one handed compressions while his feet are on the bottom support rungs of the stretcher. I would know. I've done that many times.

She's dead. Sorry I'm being so brutal and cold about it but she's dead.

If you lose your pulse due to traumatic injury your odds of survival are essentially zero.
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CNN was just talking about a woman who had injuries to the lower extremities and a wound to the abdomen. They said that they tried doing CPR on her, but was already gone. She didn't have ID on her. Sounds like the same person.
 
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ThePresence said:
Might sound corny, but I sense America coming together again, the same way I felt it on 9/11. Not comparing the two, but when the country comes together in that way it's pretty incredible. It's just unfortunate that it takes these kinds of events to make it happen.
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I agree, and it's awful it seems to take a tragedy to bring us together anymore.
 
The AP is saying that "...it could be a terrorist attack..." No kidding, really? I don't care who did it their intention was terror. That would make them a terrorist.
 
iamwiz82 said:
The AP is saying that "...it could be a terrorist attack..." No kidding, really? I don't care who did it their intention was terror. That would make them a terrorist.
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Yeah, anything to make it more sensationalized. They love throwing around "terrorist" because they know most will make assumptions right off the bat.

What's odd, is if you put "Terrorism Definition" in a google search, it comes back defined as this:
ter·ror·ism

/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Noun
The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Synonyms
terror
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I didn't realize it was defined as being specifically for political aims. :hmm:

Merriam-Webster has it labeled as just a as a means of coercion, which I think is better defined.
 
Wyndru said:
Yeah, anything to make it more sensationalized. They love throwing around "terrorist" because they know most will make assumptions right off the bat.

What's odd, is if you put "Terrorism Definition" in a google search, it comes back defined as this:
I didn't realize it was defined as being specifically for political aims. :hmm:

Merriam-Webster has it labeled as just a as a means of coercion, which I think is better defined.
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Terrorism is always for political gains. the coercion is for a political objective. give me an instance in which terrorism never used politics as an objective? Jihadists are very political, they want Islamist governments in Muslim countries & attack those that are against it or fund secular dictators, ie the USA.
 
FBI press conference is on now.

Edit: Not intending to be insensitive but is there something wrong with Boston's mayor?
 
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iamwiz82 said:
The AP is saying that "...it could be a terrorist attack..." No kidding, really? I don't care who did it their intention was terror. That would make them a terrorist.
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i keep thinking "could be"?. right. its not. someone has been playing World of Warcraft to much. in they game it has Party grenade and they wanted a dance party?

ugh of course its a terrorist attack. by homegrown or foreign is the question.
 
Not much of a press conference. FBI hasn't a clue who did it. Still looking for suspects and nobody's claimed responsibility. The last year has been a rough one for the United States.

From what I've heard, the bombs were pretty crude. This tells me it may be domestic. Early reports say they were frag devices, which explains the extent of the injuries. Hopefully they try the bastard federally since Massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty.
 
Just flashed on AP - only two bombs total, the two that went off. No others.

Oh, and making and using the explosive device automatically makes it federal crime.
 
Lot's of misinformation in this Twitter age. Kind of frustrating. Every news outlet was reporting at least two unexploded IEDs.
 
rcpratt said:
Lot's of misinformation in this Twitter age. Kind of frustrating. Every news outlet was reporting at least two unexploded IEDs.
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Yeah we live in a time where everyone reports immediately on emotion and word of mouth, not facts. That's what everyone wants though (instant information), so I guess we just have to live with it.
 
Our newspaper said this morning that there were 17 Tallahassee residents running the marathon from one club - don't know about any others - and that, fortunately, all 17 were safe.

I didn't hear all of the conference this morning. Does anyone know if any of the victims were runners or were they all bystanders?
 
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