tweaktown review GTX660Ti

[Jaydip]

Yes but they did change it with 550Ti though

 

[toyota]

Yes but they did change it with 550Ti though

yes there are a few cards, including mine, with 192 bit that come with 1gb of vram so Nvidia is not afraid to do odd memory configurations.

 

[BenSkywalker]

hat is totally uncalled for. If you are going to disagree, I would appreciate it that you focused on the topic at hand and not resort to personal insults.

What personal insult? You made a very stupid comment, the type that is normal for fanboys to make when making their argument.

Bringing up ECC performance as a red-herring

ECC performance? Is that a joke?

I was not in any way insinuating that HD7970 is a better card than K10 is for all professional applications, but for general consumer compute its price/performance is certainly better.

Really? Oh wait, that is what you said-

But here, we would discuss how a $450 HD7970 has higher double-precision compute performance than K10 for a fraction of the price, and would deem K10 a massive failure for compute projects that are run on our boards because it costs 5-6x more.

What you said was utterly idiotic and rather on the extreme end of the fanboy spectrum. Now you backpedal and say that isn't what you meant? You stated that the K10 was a *massive failure for compute projects*.

Now you are saying you didn't say that...... Are you now agreeing with me that it was a stupid statement?

Also, the price of the GTX660Ti is 99% confirmed to be $299, so no it won't be $5.

So was the 8800GT. It may be $6000 for all I know. Debating where something falls on the price/performance curve before we have solid benchmark results or an actual price is certainly inside the realm of fanboys though. That's pretty much all these forums are now, whatever you want to act like. A bunch of people who don't have a clue about the technology they discuss divining their absolute wisdom on a couple FPS benches and others they don't even understand.

BTW- What possible use is DP where ECC isn't necessary? I'm curious if there is even a hypothetical situation.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Don't want to hit the edit again in case someone replies, so I'll swap your quote around just a bit-

"But here, we would discuss how a $400 670 has higher 3D performance then V9800Pro for a fraction of the price, and would deem the V9800Pro a massive failure for 3D projects that are run on our boards because it costs 7x-8x more."

The above is an absolutely idiotic and fanboyish thing to say.


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[SirPauly]

I have to agree with RussianSensation -- very consistent poster over-all.


A little respect, kindness and tolerance goes a long way.

 

[Mistwalker]

I have to agree with RussianSensation -- very consistent poster over-all.

A little respect, kindness and tolerance goes a long way.

Agreed. I've seen RS strongly recommend any number products, based on user needs and price/performance (and never just on which company makes them)--not to mention he's the most consistent person on this board I know for backing up his opinions with links and data.

What you said was utterly idiotic and rather on the extreme end of the fanboy spectrum. Now you backpedal and say that isn't what you meant? You stated that the K10 was a *massive failure for compute projects*.

Your condescending, dismissive tone aside, that is NOT what he stated. Try reading it again, and pay attention to the statements leading up to that sentence. He was simply using a hypothetical example to demonstrate what type of discussion most users on this board would consider relevant, and what kind of price/performance AT posters generally care about.

Debating where something falls on the price/performance curve before we have solid benchmark results or an actual price is certainly inside the realm of fanboys though.

Is that so? Enthusiasts do love to speculate about how incoming hardware will change the current landscape or offer nothing but disappointment, and while I often don't join myself, I wouldn't dismiss it as some fanboy waste of time. It's what people passionate about possibilities do, and what is wrong with that?

That's pretty much all these forums are now, whatever you want to act like. A bunch of people who don't have a clue about the technology they discuss divining their absolute wisdom on a couple FPS benches and others they don't even understand.

SirPauly was right: A little respect, kindness and tolerance go a long way. If you see nothing but ignorance here, wouldn't offering your educational insight be more constructive?

On the topic at hand, I think tweaktown's "review" is too limited as their reviews tend to be. That said, if it's at all accurate a $300 price point would make the 660Ti a hard sell indeed, and anything below that would leave a yawning chasm in Nvidia's offerings between the 670 and 660. Gotta wait and see.

 

[Elfear]

I have to agree with RussianSensation -- very consistent poster over-all.


A little respect, kindness and tolerance goes a long way.

+1

I don't care how much technical knowledge you have, if you come off like a douche, it detracts from the conversation and generally devolves into a flamewar. Respect goes a long way in making the forum a good place to discuss hardware.

 

[thujone]

OK... i haven't posted in this thread at all... but after hearing "fanboy" thrown around at anyone who is arguing for one side or the other all i have to say is...

i was staunchly nvidia for a LONG time. the 9700pro was the last red card i owned. recently decided to upgrade my gtx 460... start looking into cards. i want something in the 600 line of cards... but the only one i can afford is a 670 and even that is at the absolute max of my budget. i ended up getting burned on a used on in the fs/ft forum (got my money back though) and went back to looking for a card.

after all this the TF3 7950 goes on sale for almost $100 less than what i would have paid for a stock 670. i bought it... worried about the drivers and other problems others always bring up when talking about ATI cards. was worried about the performance i'd get in BF3. so far... everything is pretty amazing. i can hit overclocks that put it in the realm of a gtx 680... all for $100 less than the lowest cost entry point into the 600 series.

this being said... i'm pretty open minded and would happily be swayed back to the green side. but these benchmark numbers combined with the price of the card hasn't done anything to change my mind about my purchase.

 

[BenSkywalker]

He was simply using a hypothetical example to demonstrate what type of discussion most users on this board would consider relevant, and what kind of price/performance AT posters generally care about.

Let me get this straight- he makes a generalized post as an example of the type of discussion that is used on this forum. I point out that it is a very ignorant point that reaks of fanboyism and point out that these forums in general are full of ignorant posts that reak of fanboyism..... and I don't get it?

I have to agree with RussianSensation -- very consistent poster over-all.

I didn't insult RS, I insulted something very stupid that he posted. I post stupid things on occasion too, and I expect to be called out when I do so.

If you see nothing but ignorance here, wouldn't offering your educational insight be more constructive?

Because the only thing the majority of posters on this sub forum care about is how it makes their respective companies look. When I was talking about the potential of tesselation as an example at first that ATi fans would tout what I was saying, until nV had the edge at which point the people who backed it swapped almost perfectly. When Intel was dropping huge money into Larrabee I tried explaining to people why Ray Tracing sucked as a method of real time 3D visualization but was blasted by the fanboys trying to support their company of choice. It is close to constant that the people on this forum will not listen to reason, logic or knowledge. Throw out a couple of carefully and strongly worded posts and you get attention.

 

[3DVagabond]

Let me get this straight- he makes a generalized post as an example of the type of discussion that is used on this forum. I point out that it is a very ignorant point that reaks of fanboyism and point out that these forums in general are full of ignorant posts that reak of fanboyism..... and I don't get it?



I didn't insult RS, I insulted something very stupid that he posted. I post stupid things on occasion too, and I expect to be called out when I do so.



Because the only thing the majority of posters on this sub forum care about is how it makes their respective companies look. When I was talking about the potential of tesselation as an example at first that ATi fans would tout what I was saying, until nV had the edge at which point the people who backed it swapped almost perfectly. When Intel was dropping huge money into Larrabee I tried explaining to people why Ray Tracing sucked as a method of real time 3D visualization but was blasted by the fanboys trying to support their company of choice. It is close to constant that the people on this forum will not listen to reason, logic or knowledge. Throw out a couple of carefully and strongly worded posts and you get attention.

Sorry you feel victimized. Maybe you should temper your preemptive strikes though to those who deserve it and not just jump on any poster at the first opportunity to try and gain some type of tactical advantage. I've found that the ignore button for those who really annoy me works best.

 

[SolMiester]

This is interesting. Videocardz.com has posted a leak about the 660ti.



They also say that the performance of this card compares favorably with the 670! Can this be right though? TT reported 2gig vRAM? This report says that the 3gig is 2x the reference amt.

3Gb?....that doesnt make sense?...680 & 670 with only 2Gb, but a lower end card with 3?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

3Gb?....that doesnt make sense?...680 & 670 with only 2Gb, but a lower end card with 3?

UDPATE: New information suggests that 3GB’s as shown in GPU-Z are wrong. This is in fact an error in application. It occurs when cards are connected in SLI. Unfortunately, there is no 3GB version of GTX 660 Ti.

Three-way also seems a bit suspect though.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Maybe you should temper your preemptive strikes though to those who deserve it and not just jump on any poster at the first opportunity to try and gain some type of tactical advantage.

I don't argue posters, I argue points. Normally I don't glance at who is posting, just the body of text. If something jumps out as horribly wrong, I contradict it. How wrong it is normally determines how colorful my reply

 

[Borealis7]

i've seen that a 670 is roughly twice as fast as my 5850, so a 660Ti + O/C might just be the card for me at a sane price.

 

[Arzachel]

i've seen that a 670 is roughly twice as fast as my 5850, so a 660Ti + O/C might just be the card for me at a sane price.

According to leaks and this review/preview, if you're not alergic to overclocking, go with the 7950. Even if you are, the 7950 seems like a better choice if you're using AA and the 660ti actually gets priced at 300$.

 

[AtenRa]

I dont know if this has been linked before,

More Overclocked GeForce GTX 660 Ti Benchmarks Leaked – Hits 1020MHz Core and 1098MHz Boost Clock

3DMARK 11 Xtreme Mode:

GTX 660Ti @ 1020/1098/1502MHz – X2833

GTX 660Ti @ 915/980/1502MHz – X2618

3DMARK 11 Performance Mode:

GTX 660Ti @ 1020/1098/1502MHz – P8852

GTX 660Ti @ 915/980/1502MHz – P8042

 

[notty22]

If those numbers are representative of actual production cards, the performance results at stock(915) are about equal to o/c gtx 460SLI and probably equal or less than gtx 560 sli and less than gtx 560ti sli etc.

edit: I can get about 8100 graphics score in the performance level @880mhz.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

If those numbers are representative of actual production cards, the performance results at stock(915) are about equal to o/c gtx 460SLI and probably equal or less than gtx 560 sli and less than gtx 560ti sli etc.

edit: I can get about 8100 graphics score in the performance level @880mhz.

So that's faster than 580 and if it goes for $250 that'd be a decent deal.

 

[AVP]

Seems like they will be $285-299.

 

[blastingcap]

I dont know if this has been linked before,

More Overclocked GeForce GTX 660 Ti Benchmarks Leaked – Hits 1020MHz Core and 1098MHz Boost Clock

3DMARK 11 Xtreme Mode:

GTX 660Ti @ 1020/1098/1502MHz – X2833

GTX 660Ti @ 915/980/1502MHz – X2618

3DMARK 11 Performance Mode:

GTX 660Ti @ 1020/1098/1502MHz – P8852

GTX 660Ti @ 915/980/1502MHz – P8042

That article, like others I've seen, pegs the reference model at $299 and the custom/oc models at $329 MSRP. I don't know if they are really worth that much, so hopefully street prices will be more like $279/299 for reference/custom which would make more sense compared to current street prices for 7950 and 78xx cards. It would still be a slight premium compared to the 78xx/79xx price/perf ratios, but NV SLI support, CUDA/PhysX/adaptive Vsync/etc. also factor into things so I think $279/299 is justified.

 

[f1sherman]

That article, like others I've seen, pegs the reference model at $299 and the custom/oc models at $329 MSRP. I don't know if they are really worth that much, so hopefully street prices will be more like $279/299 for reference/custom which would make more sense compared to current street prices for 7950 and 78xx cards.

Street prices are lower than MSRP only if thery're not selling.
Plenty of ppl have been waiting for these cards + 28nm constraints will continue into 3rd quarter --> MSRP=street price

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Agreed so far everything this generation has been $50-$100 more than what we want to pay, so $299 sounds right.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Agreed so far everything this generation has been $50-$100 more than what we want to pay, so $299 sounds right.

We only have ourselves to blame for that. People keep buying them, so they're never going to lower prices much.

 

[toyota]

$299 is correct

http://videocardz.com/34231/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-299-price-confirmed

 

[baverdt]

I was at Best Buy and saw one on the shelf. $299