Keller is competing with himself, LMAO
Cove based cores are from the Bulldozer legacy. Sunnycove(10nm) -> WLcove(7nm?) -> Oceancove(5nm?) are the cores.Will he end up working on this?
You meant ARMing and ARMs?He's arming both sides. He is the great tech arms trader of the 21st century.
So I guess in 3-4 years Intel will finally have a competitive architecture to Ryzen?
Is having superior IPC and clock rate capability not already more than competitive?
He is clearly trolling.Is having superior IPC and clock rate capability not already more than competitive?
He is clearly trolling.
What makes you think Keller will work on a CPU project and if so on an x86 CPU project?He does not, if Intel were sure that their uarch is better they wouldnt have hired Keller, they have supposedly enough talented people...
Given how BK was talking about Intel's plans with their own '7nm'(full-blown EMIB for starters), it's safe to say that Keller will be involved in CPU one way or the other.What makes you think Keller will work on a CPU project and if so on an x86 CPU project?
What makes you think Keller will work on a CPU project and if so on an x86 CPU project?
Intel today announced that Jim Keller will join Intel as a senior vice president. He will lead the company’s silicon engineering, which encompasses system-on-chip (SoC) development and integration.
Wait IPC still means same amount of cores at the same clocks right?They have slighty higher IPC because they use clustered execution ports but intrinsicaly Zen has higher IPC capabilities than Intel s current uarches, that s what is necessary to compete when your opponent is the one who decide of the new instructions implementations..
IPC tests are best performed using 1T at identical frequency, like the Stilt does. PCGamer's test suite is horrible. y-cruncher? Might as well try Linpack. Civ 6 AI test clubbed together under multi-threaded geometric mean? They're embarrassing themselves. It's because of crap like this that people like you exist whose sole job is to add fuel to the fire using cherry-picked "benchmarks" with horrible methodology.Wait IPC still means same amount of cores at the same clocks right?
The only CPUs that fit are the
2200g 4c at 3,5Ghz with a max boost of 3.7 and the
i3-8100 4c at 3.6Ghz locked
46% to 67% doesn't really look slight.
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-is-better-than-its-predecessors-in-every-way/
Wait IPC still means same amount of cores at the same clocks right?
The only CPUs that fit are the
2200g 4c at 3,5Ghz with a max boost of 3.7 and the
i3-8100 4c at 3.6Ghz locked
46% to 67% doesn't really look slight.
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-is-better-than-its-predecessors-in-every-way/
So what is your point here? If they have the same IPC what does it matter what they run?IPC tests are best performed using 1T at identical frequency, like the Stilt does. PCGamer's test suite is horrible. y-cruncher? Might as well try Linpack. Civ 6 AI test clubbed together under multi-threaded geometric mean? They're embarrassing themselves. It's because of crap like this that people like you exist whose sole job is to add fuel to the fire using cherry-picked "benchmarks" with horrible methodology.
The 2400g 4c/8t (3.6 3.9Ghz turbo) has the same amount of cache,the same 4Gb for twice the amount of threads,compare the 58% it get's to the 1800x 8c/16t (3.6 4Ghz turbo) 122,cache has zero effect here.Compare what is comparable, not L3 cache starved 2200G vs i3...
What about comparing 6C/12T, say the 2600X and the 8700K, knowing that the latter has roughly 20% higher clocks on 6C loaded..?.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3077-explaining-coffee-lake-turbo-8700k-8600kWhat about comparing 6C/12T, say the 2600X and the 8700K, knowing that the latter has roughly 20% higher clocks on 6C loaded..?.
The 2400g 4c/8t (3.6 3.9Ghz turbo) has the same amount of cache,the same 4Gb for twice the amount of threads,compare the 58% it get's to the 1800x 8c/16t (3.6 4Ghz turbo) 122,cache has zero effect here.
Yes, but the tricky part is the knowledge and trade secrets involved in his work at the previous companies. While there is still a burden of proof involved, one could make the claim that knowledge/secrets from Company A were used to create the new/derivative work at Company B. A rather blatant case of this being Uber's legal scuffle with Waymo, in which they ended up settling with Waymo to the tune of $244 million over allegedly stolen code (Uber got off lightly, IMO).
I am wondering about that.
Is it not so that designers also hold patents of their own and because they have these patents they are free from litigation when using these patents and enforcing a contract that they are free to use their patents ?
I wonder if Jim Keller has a large patentfolio when it comes to cpu design.
Is having superior IPC and clock rate capability not already more than competitive?
PCGamers' tests are the last place I'd look at to compare IPC. Unless explicitly set at identical frequencies, there is no point in guessing at IPC from benchmarks like PCGamers like you were doing. Also, the use of geometric mean skews results which are purely due to lack of things like AVX2 and AVX512 on Ryzen against AMD's favor.So what is your point here? If they have the same IPC what does it matter what they run?
How can you cherry pick if there isn't something that runs slower or faster?