[Tweaktown] Jim Keller leaving Tesla to join Intel

[coercitiv]

Presumably he's going to announce today.

The enthusiast in me cannot wait to see what comes out of this, the stoic in me is prepared for the (painful) hype train to come.

Intel formally announces the move.

 

[tamz_msc]

Will he end up working on this?

 

[FIVR]

So I guess in 3-4 years Intel will finally have a competitive architecture to Ryzen?


Who is going to fix 10nm for them?


Unnamed source says earnings report is tomorrow. Hmm....

 

[f2bnp]

Wow, exciting if legit!

 

[asendra]

One thing is for sure, he is not going there just to do a GenericLake core iteration.

 

[ksec]

Um.... Why do I smell Apple in that as well?

Both Jim and Raja are ex-Apple.

 

[lixlax]

So did Intel really hit a brick brick wall with it archidectures and is now looking for new ideas/people? Given what Keller has previously achived at AMD with much more limited resources must have them more than concerned now.

Intel haven't had architectural improvmets since 2015 (skylake) and a new manufacturing process since 2014 (4 years) and still counting.

 

[LTC8K6]

So did Intel really hit a brick brick wall with it archidectures and is now looking for new ideas/people? Given what Keller has previously achived at AMD with much more limited resources must have them more than concerned now.

Intel haven't had architectural improvmets since 2015 (skylake) and a new manufacturing process since 2014 (4 years) and still counting.

You mean they haven't released such, they certainly have both well under way at this point.

 

[positivedoppler]

Interesting news. I can see this turning out one of two ways. Jim helping Intel elevate their design current and future to new heights. This can also result in an alpha nerd clash.

 

[crisium]

Hopefully he can cycle back to AMD after this stint is up.

 

[psolord]

Is this legal, since he was working for a direct competitor?

 

[guskline]

Is this legal, since he was working for a direct competitor?

Depends upon the language, if any, as to non compete that was in his contract with AMD and perhaps Tesla. I just saw an article that said he left AMD in 2015 to join Tesla.

 

[IEC]

Depends upon the language, if any, as to non compete that was in his contract with AMD and perhaps Tesla. I just saw an article that said he left AMD in 2015 to join Tesla.

Yes, but the tricky part is the knowledge and trade secrets involved in his work at the previous companies. While there is still a burden of proof involved, one could make the claim that knowledge/secrets from Company A were used to create the new/derivative work at Company B. A rather blatant case of this being Uber's legal scuffle with Waymo, in which they ended up settling with Waymo to the tune of $244 million over allegedly stolen code (Uber got off lightly, IMO).

 

[ksec]

So did Intel really hit a brick brick wall with it archidectures and is now looking for new ideas/people? Given what Keller has previously achived at AMD with much more limited resources must have them more than concerned now.

Intel haven't had architectural improvmets since 2015 (skylake) and a new manufacturing process since 2014 (4 years) and still counting.

I remember there was a mathematical prove to the limit of IPC, the amount of instruction we could squeeze per clock. And that theoretical performance limit assumes our compiler can perfectly match all sequence.

 

[guskline]

Yes, but the tricky part is the knowledge and trade secrets involved in his work at the previous companies. While there is still a burden of proof involved, one could make the claim that knowledge/secrets from Company A were used to create the new/derivative work at Company B. A rather blatant case of this being Uber's legal scuffle with Waymo, in which they ended up settling with Waymo to the tune of $244 million over allegedly stolen code (Uber got off lightly, IMO).

IEC, I agree. I think it will be telling as to what comment, if any, comes from AMD about this. Raja Kurduri went directly from AMD to Intel and that appears to have been a smooth transition.

 

[PeterScott]

IEC, I agree. I think it will be telling as to what comment, if any, comes from AMD about this. Raja Kurduri went directly from AMD to Intel and that appears to have been a smooth transition.

Non-competes are not enforceable in California, so there is really nothing AMD can say publicly that would be beneficial to them. They can't even complain Intel Poached him, because he had already left, and was working at Tesla.

What a career Jim Keller is having. I wonder if this latest move was driven more by unhappiness with Tesla, or the chance to do something big at Intel.

 

[scannall]

Non-competes are not enforceable in California, so there is really nothing AMD can say publicly that would be beneficial to them. They can't even complain Intel Poached him, because he had already left, and was working at Tesla.

What a career Jim Keller is having. I wonder if this latest move was driven more by unhappiness with Tesla, or the chance to do something big at Intel.

He likes to wander from place to place, seeking a new project that interests him. Once he is past the interesting part, he then seeks out something new. A great thing to do if you have the chops for it, and since it has worked for him for a long time now he seems to.

 

[PeterScott]

He likes to wander from place to place, seeking a new project that interests him. Once he is past the interesting part, he then seeks out something new. A great thing to do if you have the chops for it, and since it has worked for him for a long time now he seems to.

I realize that, but Elon Musk also has a reputation as being a boss that rubs some people the wrong way. So I am left wondering was he finished the important work at Tesla, or did he get fed up with working for Musk, and leave early.

 

[dark zero]

So.. He lasted 3 years on Tesla... So Intel might have Jim until 2021.

 

[PeterScott]

So.. He lasted 3 years on Tesla... So Intel might have Jim until 2021.

Or he could be looking at his cushy high paying senior executive role at Intel as his semi-retirement plan.

 

[moonbogg]

Will he end up working on this?

I thought the next big thing was Tiger lake or just beyond it, with a new lean architecture and all that. Is Ocean Cove that big new thing? Looks like they are making a new Sandy Bridge here. Maybe even better? Maybe also with high end GPU's to go along with the new CPUs? Nah, we all know the GPU's will be crap. Bring on the new Sandy though.

 

[firewolfsm]

It could be that Tiger Lake and/or Sapphire Rapids aren't going well, and so Intel hired Keller for another fresh start.

 

[NTMBK]

Remember he used to work on Apple SoCs, and apparently Intel wants to move into "custom SoCs"... Intel modem integrated into Apple SoC?

 

[scannall]

Remember he used to work on Apple SoCs, and apparently Intel wants to move into "custom SoCs"... Intel modem integrated into Apple SoC?

I can't really see that. I can't see Intel fabbing Apple parts. Or Apple wanting Intel as a fab. Not can I see Intel willing to let any of their IP be fabbed elsewhere.

 

[Olikan]

Keller is competing with himself, LMAO