Tweak 155 on the FS forum refuses to believe that ATI made a 9800 non pro

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Drakkon
I...I just dunno what to say at this point...

a Manf Part # of the RETAIL BOX is whats on these sites since they can't exactly open up the box, take the card out of plastic, and read off the EXACT part #....

A box # would be good enough for me and thats what a lot of the links when you search for that part # are showing...

I say its pretty clean cut and clear at this point they exist....

I dont understand how you can be so ignorant....

You can get careless if you aren't specific. The part number is very good evidence, especially referencing to a list that someone else posted here...but I like to be sure of what it is. And chunkee obviously doesn't want to prove what he has that bad...that or he doesn't have the proof.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: bunker
So the argument isn't whether or not there are 9800 non-pro's but whether or not Chunkee has a Built By ATI non-pro?

Yes.

 

[BAMAVOO]

Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: bunker
So the argument isn't whether or not there are 9800 non-pro's but whether or not Chunkee has a Built By ATI non-pro?

Yes.

A lot of miscommunication then. After re-reading, it was never made clear. I'm taking you off the dumbasses list.

 

[jcwagers]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: jcwagers
No offense but.....HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED? It's common knowledge on this forum for anybody who has kept up with video cards in the last 2 years or so that there IS a 9800 non-pro. It doesn't matter if it's BBA(Built By ATI) or (Powered By ATI)...it's STILL a 9800 non-pro. There are even reviews of it on the web.......the performance was on par with a 9700 Pro. If you want to continue to be stubborn and not listen when you have been given more proof than you could ever possibly need to solve this argument, that's up to you. The people who frequent this board are enthusiasts. They KNOW their products. They've already proven that it exists and even mentioned that it's discontinued. So.....if you can't admit that they were right, that's ok. But drop the dumb argument.....as it makes you look worse everytime you post.

jc

I never questioned that a 9800 existed...I have never seen a NON-PRO version of a BUILT BY ATI...i don't really care if its sapphire, the whole point was for me to get a price value of the card that Chunkee owns, thats it, so I referenced a sapphire card as it is the closest BBA product I can think of....some people just blow things way out of proportion.

The 9800 non-pro is on par with the 9700 Pro. Do a search for current prices that you can find for a 9700 Pro and go within $10 of it either way. A safe bet would be to go with $120-140 since newegg has the 9800 non-pro for $166.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: bunker
So the argument isn't whether or not there are 9800 non-pro's but whether or not Chunkee has a Built By ATI non-pro?

Yes.

so you admit your chaging your tune from the beginning when you said:

Originally posted by: Tweak155
this still doesnt prove they built the card, they just made the technology, good job geniuses

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: bunker
So the argument isn't whether or not there are 9800 non-pro's but whether or not Chunkee has a Built By ATI non-pro?

No, it's whether there ARE Built By ATi non-pro's.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: jcwagers

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: jcwagers
No offense but.....HOW MUCH PROOF DO YOU NEED? It's common knowledge on this forum for anybody who has kept up with video cards in the last 2 years or so that there IS a 9800 non-pro. It doesn't matter if it's BBA(Built By ATI) or (Powered By ATI)...it's STILL a 9800 non-pro. There are even reviews of it on the web.......the performance was on par with a 9700 Pro. If you want to continue to be stubborn and not listen when you have been given more proof than you could ever possibly need to solve this argument, that's up to you. The people who frequent this board are enthusiasts. They KNOW their products. They've already proven that it exists and even mentioned that it's discontinued. So.....if you can't admit that they were right, that's ok. But drop the dumb argument.....as it makes you look worse everytime you post.

jc

I never questioned that a 9800 existed...I have never seen a NON-PRO version of a BUILT BY ATI...i don't really care if its sapphire, the whole point was for me to get a price value of the card that Chunkee owns, thats it, so I referenced a sapphire card as it is the closest BBA product I can think of....some people just blow things way out of proportion.

The 9800 non-pro is on par with the 9700 Pro. Do a search for current prices that you can find for a 9700 Pro and go within $10 of it either way. A safe bet would be to go with $120-140 since newegg has the 9800 non-pro for $166.

I gave him 145, as shown in a previous post.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: bunker
So the argument isn't whether or not there are 9800 non-pro's but whether or not Chunkee has a Built By ATI non-pro?

Yes.

so you admit your chaging your tune from the beginning when you said:

Originally posted by: Tweak155
this still doesnt prove they built the card, they just made the technology, good job geniuses

i said that THEY BUILT THE CARD (hence BBA), referring to ATI, they obviously made the chipset/technology

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Tweak155
this still doesnt prove they built the card, they just made the technology, good job geniuses

Originally posted by: Tweak155
if they built it, you should be able to link me to a place i can buy it...hmmmmmmmm, having trouble?

Originally posted by: Tweak155
That says sapphire all over it ... wow, good job yet again

Originally posted by: Tweak155
The following are the pm's exchanged, with me trying to explain sapphire is the BBA of non-pros (they are in the wrong order technically for good reading, read from bottom to top):



Tweak155 you can click your own link, thanks 09/03/2004 01:12 PM

Chunkee you are proven otherwise

be gone with you

know it all

jC 09/03/2004 01:05 PM

Tweak155 i still fail to see proof, ebay is horrible proof, everyone knows that...and i already gave you a price, i'm going to assume sapphire til proven otherwise...and as far as the warranty goes, this product has a lifetime warranty of the product, granted it may not be 3 years, it still has warranty 09/03/2004 01:04 PM

Chunkee here is your proof, good luck dude 09/03/2004 01:03 PM

Chunkee do a google search if you want. my heatware is a tribute to my integrity of a great trader. If you want to continue to debate this, then go ahead. I will not waste anymore time with you since you insist on being a know-it-all...

be sure to tell all the people that bought a NON-PRO by ATI at best buy they are liars as well

09/03/2004 12:58 PM

Tweak155 you cant see the box in that picture, and you are also taking another person's word...when 9800's first came out, i looked all over for 9800 non-pros, sapphire is the BBA of 9800. 09/03/2004 12:56 PM

Chunkee just like mine, ATI did make them for a while

I have the original box, receipt like i said.

JC 09/03/2004 12:52 PM

Tweak155 find a link for it online... 09/03/2004 12:46 PM

Chunkee uh, ati did make a non pro card, i bought it at best buy. I have a dvi adapter, rca to svid thing. and the box i believe and the receipt.

i was thinking a little more, since it is an ati with three year warranty

jC 09/03/2004 12:42 PM

Tweak155 ATI never actually made a NON-PRO version (of any card) that i'm aware of...so i'm assuming its a sapphire...if thats the case, the cheapest on pwatch is 145, so i would expect proabably 270-280 in that area, assuming you have a retail card and all the stuff that came with it. 09/03/2004 12:41 PM

Chunkee i have a built by ati radeon 9800 non pro retail, 3 year warranty that i could trade and add some cash. Its in great shape, i never oc anything. how much extra cash would i have to offer with it?

my heatware is under jcoria.

thanks

JC out 09/03/2004 12:34 PM

hmm...

From you're own e-mouth, it sounds to me like the argument you were having with Chunkee was the same as in here..

 

[Trey22]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Tweak155
i believe the easiest thing to do would be for chunkee to get the number off of his video card...

True. That would verify what he has. But in anycase he was right about there being a 9800 non pro.

But it'd be just as easy for you to admit you're wrong 😉

I haven't (at least I don't feel) i've been proven wrong yet...these are all non-specific links as to wether or not they are built by or sapphire cards...obviously they are ALL going to be ATI, that is the chipset...some places specify others dont, that doesnt mean you are going to get what you ASSUME it is...

Who the hell were you before you were banned?! STFU already!

 

[newbiepcuser]

Tweak155

Is this all worth ruining your rep? I'm sure made it on a lot of people's Do Not Trade List by now. I do recall seeing a frenzy on 9800np back then cause you could do mofiications to make it 9800 pro when the 9800 pro was over the 300 dollar mark. I remember people stating to avoid the ATI retail verison cause it was lock or something like that. ATI slowly did away the 9800 np to push more of the pro.

 

[jcwagers]

I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I see what you were asking now.(Thanks for the clarification bunker! 😉) Is it really a big deal if it's a BBA card though? If not, why worry about it? They should all perform the same.

jc

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

Masochist?

 

[Tweak155]

From the sounds of it, many of you attacked me not even understanding what I was trying to accomplish...how about we just resolve the question, now that it's more apparent?

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

Masochist?

I am offering a 6800gt for a lesser card + money...I wanted a value of his card to guage how much money he would have to put in.

 

[jcwagers]

Hehe....it would've been a lot simpler to have just said that at the beginning and saved yourself a lot of flaming. 🙂

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

Masochist?

I am offering a 6800gt for a lesser card + money...I wanted a value of his card to guage how much money he would have to put in.

Believe me, I nor anyone else (especially Chunkee) in this thread would want to trade with you after this thread.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: jcwagers
I apologize for jumping to conclusions. I see what you were asking now.(Thanks for the clarification bunker! 😉) Is it really a big deal if it's a BBA card though? If not, why worry about it? They should all perform the same.

jc

NO, I can only assume its sapphire (and get a fair price that way) in order to justfiy my request of 270-280$, it feels to me he is just trying to get more value out of his card by stating its BBA and a 3 year warranty...which, if this card is soooo long discontinued, i wonder how much of that warranty is even left?

 

[Chunkee]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

Masochist?

I am offering a 6800gt for a lesser card + money...I wanted a value of his card to guage how much money he would have to put in.

it started that way, til you became and insisting butthead

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Tweak155
From the sounds of it, many of you attacked me not even understanding what I was trying to accomplish...how about we just resolve the question, now that it's more apparent?

Hey, you provided the PM conversation which has the same setiments as this thread.

That being said, I think the argument has shifted from whether or not they exist to what Chunkee really has.

In any case, cheers, peace, shalom 🙂

 

[Drakkon]

I sure as hell hope your not going to law school because you make one piss poor argument....

I still say it SOUNDED like you wanted proof ATI had a BBA 9800 non-pro and thats been provided to you many times over at this point...

I would kinda like to see resolution at this point and see what Chunkee really has almost though 😀

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Good God, either buy the mans card or stfu.

He actually wants my card...i'm just here for entertainment at this point...

Masochist?

I am offering a 6800gt for a lesser card + money...I wanted a value of his card to guage how much money he would have to put in.

Believe me, I nor anyone else (especially Chunkee) in this thread would want to trade with you after this thread.

Thats ok with me, i wouldn't want to trade with someone who really doesnt care what they have or are getting. Furthermore, I don't think many people here are being reasonable...and I have gotten apologies via pm...wouldnt expect that from everyone though.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

Originally posted by: Tweak155
i believe the easiest thing to do would be for chunkee to get the number off of his video card...

The easiest thing to do would be to shoot yourself and stfu you troll.

And no your 9800 np or whoever the hell it is is not worth $270-$280.