Question Turin Builders thread

[Markfw]

OK, I already have a 9555 64 core ES, but never created a builder thread. Now I just got a 9755 128 core QS , The full specs of the build are below:







2 of the memory, and I already have one for a total of 12 dimms.
about $3600 OUCH !!!!!!! I already have the arctic cooler, nvme, the motherboard, case and PSU.

 

[Markfw]

I just found this info. I have more cache than even the 192 core ?? or the 160 core ? I like it ! Not sure what the difference between mine and the 1538-03.

BTW, its going to be a while before all the parts arrive.

• 100-000000976-09 - 12 CCD + 1 IOD (192 Zen 5C Cores / 384 Thread / 384 MB Cache / 500W)
• 100-000001152-05 - 10 CCD + 1 IOD (160 Zen 5C Cores / 320 Thread / 320 MB Cache / 360W)
• 100-000001153-09 - 8 CCD + 1 IOD (128 Zen 5C Cores / 256 Thread / 256 MB Cache)
• 100-000001249 -XX - 2 CCD + 1 IOD (32 Zen 5C Cores / 64 Threads / 64 MB Cache)
• 100-000001538-03 - 16 CCD + 1 IOD (128 Zen 5 Cores / 256 Thread / 512 MB Cache)
• 100-000001245-XX - 16 CCD + 1 IOD (128 Zen 5 Core / 256 Thread / 512 MB Cache)
• 100-000001246-02 - 12 CCD + 1 IOD (96 Zen 5 Cores / 192 Thread / 384 MB Cache)
• 100-000001341-XX - 12 CCD + 1 IOD (96 Zen 5 Cores / 192 Threads / 384 MB Cache)
• 100-000001247-12 - 8 CCD + 1 IOD (64 Zen 5 Cores / 128 Threads / 256 MB Cache)
• 100-000001247-04 - 8 CCD + 1 IOD (64 Zen 5 Cores / 128 Threads / TBD MB Cache)
• 100-000001342-XX - 8 CCD + 1 IOD (64 Zen 5 Cores / 128 Threads / 256 MB Cache)
• 100-000001538-03 - 4 CCD + 1 IOD (32 Zen 5 Cores / 64 Threads / 128 MB Cache)
• 100-000001249-02 - 2 CCD + 1 IOD (16 Zen 5 Cores / 32 Thread / 64 MB Cache)

 

[zir_blazer]

If the reason why you picked the Gigabyte MZ33-AR1 instead of say, the new Supermicro H14SSL-N is because I mentioned it on the Genoa thread that there is a Coreboot port being developed for it, you may be interesing in know a bit of the status:

1 - So far, there doesn't seem to be any blockers that may force to change the target board. Early on there were fears that Gigabyte may have fused RoT on the AST2600 BMC (It can potentially check the main Motherboard SPI Flash EEPROM and refuse to POST if it is not signed), but apparently everything that could go wrong went fine, so the current mood is that they will be able to deliver the port. No ETA for production end user ready binaries, expect months.
2 - OpenBMC could also be possible, but the scope of the project is currently just the main BIOS because that is what the secured funding is for and they want to deliver Coreboot port first.
3 - The work being done is using a low end retail Turin CPU, I think the 8C one. I have no idea if the released OpenSIL PoC for Turin covers Turin Dense (Zen 5c) models, but I assume than all standard retail Turin (Zen 5) should work. Note that there is absolutely no word about ES/QS since they are using all retail parts - I know that in Intel sometimes you have to use specific early BIOSes because Microcode for ES Steppings and that these may be removed later. So I have no idea if your CPUs will work.
3 - The Motherboard was picked because it meet the requeriments for a general purpose board: No fused RoT cause otherwise you can't port (At least not 100% independently because you need Motherboard vendor support for signing your binaries with their keys, and if they're not your partners it is not likely to happen). It is available as DIY retail. It has a standard form factor. It makes full use of SP5 I/O like all 12 RAM channels (Albeit in slower 2 DPC - the MZ33-CP1 which is 1 DPC was also considered) and lots of ports for PCIe. 500W TDP support is nice to have, albeit I think there are only 2 Turin SKUs that requires that.
4 - The absolute most inconvenient thing of the Gigabyte is PCIe card support, since while it has 4 slots it forces you to use short length cards. This greatly limits dGPU choices to mid range SFF ones, otherwise the cards are too long and crash with the DDR5 slots (I have the numbers written somewhere if you want them). The likelihood is that if you want PCIe you will end up using tons of adapters, so expect THIS.

Any other questions?

 

[Markfw]

If the reason why you picked the Gigabyte MZ33-AR1 instead of say, the new Supermicro H14SSL-N is because I mentioned it on the Genoa thread that there is a Coreboot port being developed for it, you may be interesing in know a bit of the status:

1 - So far, there doesn't seem to be any blockers that may force to change the target board. Early on there were fears that Gigabyte may have fused RoT on the AST2600 BMC (It can potentially check the main Motherboard SPI Flash EEPROM and refuse to POST if it is not signed), but apparently everything that could go wrong went fine, so the current mood is that they will be able to deliver the port. No ETA for production end user ready binaries, expect months.
2 - OpenBMC could also be possible, but the scope of the project is currently just the main BIOS because that is what the secured funding is for and they want to deliver Coreboot port first.
3 - The work being done is using a low end retail Turin CPU, I think the 8C one. I have no idea if the released OpenSIL PoC for Turin covers Turin Dense (Zen 5c) models, but I assume than all standard retail Turin (Zen 5) should work. Note that there is absolutely no word about ES/QS since they are using all retail parts - I know that in Intel sometimes you have to use specific early BIOSes because Microcode for ES Steppings and that these may be removed later. So I have no idea if your CPUs will work.
3 - The Motherboard was picked because it meet the requeriments for a general purpose board: No fused RoT cause otherwise you can't port (At least not 100% independently because you need Motherboard vendor support for signing your binaries with their keys, and if they're not your partners it is not likely to happen). It is available as DIY retail. It has a standard form factor. It makes full use of SP5 I/O like all 12 RAM channels (Albeit in slower 2 DPC - the MZ33-CP1 which is 1 DPC was also considered) and lots of ports for PCIe. 500W TDP support is nice to have, albeit I think there are only 2 Turin SKUs that requires that.
4 - The absolute most inconvenient thing of the Gigabyte is PCIe card support, since while it has 4 slots it forces you to use short length cards. This greatly limits dGPU choices to mid range SFF ones, otherwise the cards are too long and crash with the DDR5 slots (I have the numbers written somewhere if you want them). The likelihood is that if you want PCIe you will end up using tons of adapters, so expect THIS.

Any other questions?

I would have bought that one had I Known. My gigabyte has already shipped ! But it is almost $200 less.

 

[Markfw]

I am returning the gigabyte, due to package damage. And getting the supermicro H14ssl-n. No ETA on when it gets here.

 

[StefanR5R]

A H14 generation mainboard finding its way into the hands of a reviewer doesn't necessarily mean it will be available in retail anytime soon...

That said, here in Europe, all H13 generation Supermicro mainboards are sold out now, while H14 is of course nowhere to be seen yet. (However, several SP5 socket mainboards from ASRock Rack, ASUS, and Gigabyte are available, which is huge progress from the SP3 and SP5 situation we had in previous times. All of these boards are limited to 400 W socket power though.)

 

[Markfw]

A H14 generation mainboard finding its way into the hands of a reviewer doesn't necessarily mean it will be available in retail anytime soon...

That said, here in Europe, all H13 generation Supermicro mainboards are sold out now, while H14 is of course nowhere to be seen yet. (However, several SP5 socket mainboards from ASRock Rack, ASUS, and Gigabyte are available, which is huge progress from the SP3 and SP5 situation we had in previous times. All of these boards are limited to 400 W socket power though.)

I got it from wiredzone. Its a dropship. They said nothing about a availability problem. I guess we will know in a few weeks.

 

[zir_blazer]

That said, here in Europe, all H13 generation Supermicro mainboards are sold out now, while H14 is of course nowhere to be seen yet. (However, several SP5 socket mainboards from ASRock Rack, ASUS, and Gigabyte are available, which is huge progress from the SP3 and SP5 situation we had in previous times. All of these boards are limited to 400 W socket power though.)

Gigabyte MZ33-AR1 and MZ33-CP1 are 500W capable. AsRock Rack also refreshed their boards and some Turin ones support 500W too, albeit I'm not sure if they're available.

 

[Markfw]

WZ said they would contact supermido with an estimated ship date.

 

[Markfw]

I have been researching Turin single socket SP5 motherboards that support 500 watt. The only ones I find are a couple of ASRock rack ones with only 8 dimm slots and they say "preliminary, so I think I have the correct one ordered OR order that Gigabyte one again and hope that it comes without holes in the box.

The CPU will be here tomorrow !!

 

[StefanR5R]

@zir_blazer, it's a loooong way from vendors' announcements to retail, notably to European retail.

 

[Markfw]

Good news on 2 fronts ! first the motherboard
Hi Mark,
Good news! Your order is ready to ship.

We will email you the tracking details soon.

We appreciate your business.

Have a great day!

and the CPU !

Your order is out for delivery today.​

 

[Markfw]

Well, the CPU is here, but the holder was not on the CPU and it does not seem to fit properly. I think I will put it in without the holder.

 

[Markfw]

Motherboard coming Sat!

 

[Markfw]

Well, as usual, Fedex failed. No updated ETA on delivery now. I hate Fedex.

 

[Markfw]

 

[Markfw]

OK, motherboard here, cpu and nvme installed, I have to go for a few hours, then the build can continue.

 

[Markfw]

128 cores and a 4080 Super ! Along with 192 gig 6400 rdimm ram and a 2 tb NVME !

 

[igor_kavinski]

so I think I have the correct one ordered

Yes it is.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Did it boot???

 

[Markfw]

Did it boot???

Its 3 am. Later today, when I wake, I will be hooking it up. Just up taking pills.

 

[poke01]

Its 3 am. Later today, when I wake, I will be hooking it up. Just up taking pills.

Sleep well. May you dream EYPC dreams.

 

[igor_kavinski]

512MB cache is icing on the cake!

Curious, what's the total damage in $$$?

 

[Markfw]

512MB cache is icing on the cake!

Curious, what's the total damage in $$$?

About $4000. I may have forgotten some parts there, but thats the minimum. CPU alone was almost $2000

 

[igor_kavinski]

Well, the CPU is here, but the holder was not on the CPU and it does not seem to fit properly. I think I will put it in without the holder.

Is that safe?