Trump will be the forever allowable #whatabout

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Ken g6

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Many things like this have happened before.
corruption
aligning with murderous dictators
failing to hold murderous dictators accountable for killing Americans (citizens and residents)
siding with enemies of America
Reagan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair
incompetence
Reagan again, maybe. It wasn't his fault, though.

abuse of power
lying to the public and under oath
morality
Clinton and Nixon. Probably others too.

wasteful spending
I can't think of a President you can't accuse of that. :confused:

citing the press as "enemies of the people"
I hate to say it, but Obama was prosecuting members of the press for withholding sources. :(

alienating our allies
Bush (W).

tax increases on the middle class
Bush (I think both, but at least the first.)

I'm sure there have been some incompetent hires and "snowflake behavior" some time in the past.

The only really unique things I see Trump has done are:
trashing military
profiting from holding office [while in office]
denigrating law enforcement and intelligence agencies

Trashing/denigrating the people under your command is uniquely stupid.
 

soundforbjt

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Many things like this have happened before.

Reagan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair

Reagan again, maybe. It wasn't his fault, though.


Clinton and Nixon. Probably others too.


I can't think of a President you can't accuse of that. :confused:


I hate to say it, but Obama was prosecuting members of the press for withholding sources. :(

Bush (W).


Bush (I think both, but at least the first.)

I'm sure there have been some incompetent hires and "snowflake behavior" some time in the past.

The only really unique things I see Trump has done are:


Trashing/denigrating the people under your command is uniquely stupid.
But not all by the same guy at once.
 

ch33zw1z

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Many things like this have happened before.

Reagan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair

Reagan again, maybe. It wasn't his fault, though.


Clinton and Nixon. Probably others too.


I can't think of a President you can't accuse of that. :confused:


I hate to say it, but Obama was prosecuting members of the press for withholding sources. :(

Bush (W).


Bush (I think both, but at least the first.)

I'm sure there have been some incompetent hires and "snowflake behavior" some time in the past.

The only really unique things I see Trump has done are:


Trashing/denigrating the people under your command is uniquely stupid.
Using social media to disparage allies / cheer on dictators is all him too.
 

HomerJS

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New entry. Forgot Trump did this while at Normandy anniversary. Did it again this weekend in NK
 

HomerJS

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New entry: Wasteful government spending and deficits. Trump forcing Pence on a Dublin trip to stay 100 miles west at one of Trump's resorts. Pence has to commute via AF2 daily.
 
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shortylickens

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I seem to recall a year or two ago "whataboutism" was the main problem pundits had with the republican party as a whole and Donald in particular.
It amuses me the next white house administration will be able to use "whataboutism" to get away with literally anything since Trump used it to get away with almost anything during his tenure.
 
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HomerJS

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Necroing this thread because it is coming. All the things Republicans were willing to ignore or tolerated they will all of a sudden "see the light". Don't let them get away with it.

If you didn't care about __________________ during Trump you've lost you right to bitch about it now. Topics are in the OP and I'm sure others can be added. The latest is the feigned outrage over Hunter Biden because he allegedly got jobs because of his father's connections. You were ok under Trump so fuck you now.
 
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woolfe9998

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I agree with the thread premise. And since you necroed it, we can ad numerous other things, like disrespecting the military.

I don't want dems to not be held accountable for bad behavior. In fact, I want the opposite. I'd just rather not hear the criticism coming from people who supported this monstrosity.
 
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Sunburn74

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Using congressionally appointed US financial assets to extort a foreign nation to help his re-election campaign.
Somehow people just seem to have forgotten about that one. That little thing that led to an impeachment.
 

fskimospy

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Necroing this thread because it is coming. All the things Republicans were willing to ignore or tolerated they will all of a sudden "see the light". Don't let them get away with it.

If you didn't care about __________________ during Trump you've lost you right to bitch about it now. Topics are in the OP and I'm sure others can be added. The latest is the feigned outrage over Hunter Biden because he allegedly got jobs because of his father's connections. You were ok under Trump so fuck you now.
I for one am looking forward to republicans pretending to care about the debt/deficit again after clearly not giving a single shit for the last four years.
 

Greenman

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I for one am looking forward to republicans pretending to care about the debt/deficit again after clearly not giving a single shit for the last four years.
No one gives a shit about the debt. We're going to spend until interest payments consume the entire budget.
 

fskimospy

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No one gives a shit about the debt. We're going to spend until interest payments consume the entire budget.
To be clear at least at this time it's smart not to care about the debt because interest rates are below the expected rate of inflation - meaning creditors are paying the US to take their money.

So while I'm totally in favor of not giving a shit about the debt the thing that bothers me is that Republicans are going to lie and pretend to care about it starting when Biden wins. Even worse is that conservatives will demand that we pretend to believe them.
 

ralfy

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More like Team Wall Street, and applying to every admin during the last four decades.