Trump will be the forever allowable #whatabout

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mikeymikec

Lifer
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Are you kidding me? The minute he's out of office the right will immediately be concerned with "way too much whataboutism" and only want to concentrate on the current president and not librul distractions.
That and the amount of Trump zealots here who'll claim that they didn't really support Trump, probably with a side dish of 'better of two bad candidates', doesn't mean they liked *everything* he did.
 

HomerJS

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Packing the courts. Using the words of Mitch McConnell. Only thing that matters if the Constitution doesn't forbid it.

List of Presidents who have changed the number of justices on the SC
George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
Abraham Lincoln
Ulysses S. Grant

Republicans openly stated if Hillary had won in 2016 she wasn't going to get ANY picks
 

HomerJS

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I would like to thank the OP for giving me a reason to bump this thread. A new entry, hypocrisy!!
 
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fskimospy

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If Trump doesn't destroy the country, the debt will...
Oh god are we back to harping on the debt before Biden even enters office? EDIT: Didn't notice this was bumped - oops!

People said we were on the verge of a debt crisis during Obama. That didn't happen. Trump piled trillions more on. Still no debt crisis. Japan has a debt/GDP ratio double ours - no debt crisis.

When is this country destroying debt crisis going to happen? Even a ballpark figure would be great.
 

Paratus

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Oh god are we back to harping on the debt before Biden even enters office? EDIT: Didn't notice this was bumped - oops!

People said we were on the verge of a debt crisis during Obama. That didn't happen. Trump piled trillions more on. Still no debt crisis. Japan has a debt/GDP ratio double ours - no debt crisis.

When is this country destroying debt crisis going to happen? Even a ballpark figure would be great.
Whenever a Dem is in office?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Convenient for you

Oh I’m sure you’ll be posting in every anti Biden thread to what “about trump”, right? For someone who doesn’t like echo chambers you sure seem to do a lot of repeating of Republican talking points. I guard it’s not an echo chambers when you just repeat stuff on a forum that recognizes your bs for what it is.


God damn it! Who necro’d this?!
 

Starbuck1975

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Oh I’m sure you’ll be posting in every anti Biden thread to what “about trump”, right? For someone who doesn’t like echo chambers you sure seem to do a lot of repeating of Republican talking points. I guard it’s not an echo chambers when you just repeat stuff on a forum that recognizes your bs for what it is.


God damn it! Who necro’d this?!
yawn
 

MtnMan

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Oh god are we back to harping on the debt before Biden even enters office? EDIT: Didn't notice this was bumped - oops!

People said we were on the verge of a debt crisis during Obama. That didn't happen. Trump piled trillions more on. Still no debt crisis. Japan has a debt/GDP ratio double ours - no debt crisis.

When is this country destroying debt crisis going to happen? Even a ballpark figure would be great.
so you subscribe to spend.. spend.. spend.. and fuck the future. Is that how you manage your personal debt?
 

fskimospy

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so you subscribe to spend.. spend.. spend.. and fuck the future. Is that how you manage your personal debt?
What do you mean fuck the future? Often taking on debt improves future outcomes instead of makes them worse.

Regardless, a common misconception is that personal finances and sovereign finances are the same or even similar. They aren’t.
 

HomerJS

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Added deficits / spending to the list. Notice Republicans would not pass another round of COVID relief. When Trump leaves office they will ALL OF A SUDDEN furrow their brows about spending. Spending that is sorely needed now
 

ralfy

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Abandoning all standards of competence, morals and sense of decency just for the sake of remaining on Team Trump means your standards are forever set down to the level of Trump. You have no right in the future to complain about any politician violating these basic standards because the response will be "but #whatabout Trump?". Whenever questions about...

corruption
aligning with murderous dictators
failing to hold murderous dictators accountable for killing Americans (citizens and residents)
siding with enemies of America
incompetence
incompetent hires
racism
trashing military
corrupt hires
profiting from holding office
abuse of power
lying to the public and under oath
wasteful spending (not including policy dispute ex. voter fraud commission)
morality
religious (we all know Trump fakes it)
denigrating law enforcement and intelligence agencies
citing the press as "enemies of the people"
alienating our allies
tax increases on the middle class (Trump tariffs)
snowflake behavior (move an entire battleship because of McCain's name)
trashing political opponents while overseas
abusing military (4th July taking their vacation to make it about him)
hypocrisy
deficits/spending

Trump will be the response

Many of those standards of competence and decency were abandoned several decades ago, as every President from Reagan to the present engaged in combinations of neoconservatism and neoliberalism.

And in terms of warmongering and dirty tricks, the history of abandonment reaches over a century:

 

trenchfoot

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In the Repub mindset, it's been shown quite clearly how they really don't care who they elect president just so long as that president keeps lying to them with gross vile exaggerations of what Democrats are and what they've been doing to undermine our democracy via immigration, gay marriage, women's rights and all those other issues that these conservative racists, supremacists, tribalists and activist evangelical zealots find so distasteful about their fellow Americans.
 

eelw

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I look forward to practicing intense moments of whataboutism with Trump defenders and Biden critics.
Wonder how soon after January 20, GOP will be hypocrites? Going to demand mask wearing. Going to demand stimulus bill. Going to demand Biden is impeached.
 

HomerJS

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So whatabouting a past POTUS actions in a whatabout thread is a best example?
It's less about whatabouting but more exposing the fact conservatives have no moral backbone. They have no have no standards of decency and competence. This should be the new symbol for Republican conservatives.
rooftop-weathervane-rooster-30-inch.jpg
 

trenchfoot

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It's less about whatabouting but more exposing the fact conservatives have no moral backbone. They have no have no standards of decency and competence. This should be the new symbol for Republican conservatives.
rooftop-weathervane-rooster-30-inch.jpg


With Trump and his total lack of morals and ethics leading the way, his followers have had to mimic him in every disgusting vile way as a show of support for his stable genius, his creating a "thriving economy" based exclusively on the performance of the Stock Market and how well the very rich are doing while ignoring the millions of the starving and the destitute and oh yeah, his overwhelming popularity with those other dictators of the world.

WhataboutTrump is on equal footing with WhataboutRepubs who enabled and encouraged that lying prick to do his absolute worst at presidenting and his very best at dismantling the foundations of our democracy.
 

ralfy

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Every admin since Reagan promoted a combination of neoconservatism and neoliberalism, leading to military intervention and dirty tricks in other countries (and leading to large numbers of civilians dead) and deregulation to favor the rich, from tax breaks to bailouts.

The actions involved not just the President but several cabinet officials, heads of agencies, legislators, etc. Several of them worked across several admins.

Behind all that is a Wall Street that needs the petrodollar propped up through perpetual warfare, which controls the Fed (essentially, a private consortium of commercial banks), and funds much of the economy and the defense industry (which, as early as the 1950s, Eisenhower argued is part of a military industrial complex).

Anyone who thinks that what's been happening involves only one person is incredibly naive.
 
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HomerJS

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Another entry. Incompetent staffing
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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Yet another entry highlighting the complete hypocrisy and criminality of Republicans
 

hal2kilo

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Steve Schmitt said it best on MSNBC yesterday. The Republican party has become a criminal conspiracy to remain in power.