Trump White House/Cabinet appointments

[Doc Savage Fan]

Turnover is one of his middle names. The other is bankruptcy.
My feeling is that Carson is a joke to anyone who really knows him.

Hundreds and hundreds of successful businesses and only 6 have failed. OMG!

I smell irrational fear.

 

[fskimospy]

Hundreds and hundreds of successful businesses and only 6 have failed. OMG!

I smell irrational fear.

So, so, so many more than six have failed. SO MANY.

Also, not sure why the number matters as opposed to the losses incurred by those failures, which have been massive.

 

[Blackjack200]

I don't want to be too hard on Carson -- the man is clearly a medical genius and has done things I couldn't even dream of... I just don't see how the hell he's even remotely qualified to run HUD.

The weird thing is that he said earlier that he didn't feel qualified for a cabinet position.

Okay, so why were you running for president?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

So, so, so many more than six have failed. SO MANY.

Also, not sure why the number matters as opposed to the losses incurred by those failures, which have been massive.

Then this fact checker must be wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...tcy-four-or-six-times/?utm_term=.0ef7e69a2cd2

 

[fskimospy]

Then this fact checker must be wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...tcy-four-or-six-times/?utm_term=.0ef7e69a2cd2

Not every failed business ends in bankruptcy or anything even remotely close to that. Trump Steaks for example were a total failure but did not lead to anyone declaring bankruptcy.

EDIT: Hell, Trump University was a colossal failure that not only ended up shuttering itself but put him on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in fraud judgments. No bankruptcy there.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Not every failed business ends in bankruptcy or anything even remotely close to that. Trump Steaks for example were a total failure but did not lead to anyone declaring bankruptcy.

EDIT: Hell, Trump University was a colossal failure that not only ended up shuttering itself but put him on the hook for tens of millions of dollars in fraud judgments. No bankruptcy there.

IIRC, the subject was bankruptcies.

 

[Brainonska511]

Turnover is one of his middle names. The other is bankruptcy.

Hundreds and hundreds of successful businesses and only 6 have failed. OMG!

I smell irrational fear.

IIRC, the subject was bankruptcies.

The original quote mentioned bankruptcy, but you changed it to failed. There are many more businesses that failed that did not go through bankruptcy.

 

[fskimospy]

IIRC, the subject was bankruptcies.

Yes and you changed it from 'bankruptcy' to 'failed'. For someone who complains about others misrepresenting him you should be careful not to misrepresent others. Plenty of businesses fail without declaring bankruptcy, including many, many businesses of Trump's. In fact, most of those businesses would never have even had the risk of bankruptcy as they were just shuttered after it turned out they were failing.

If you want to say that out of hundreds of businesses only six declared bankruptcy I would say that's still a horrible record. Let me know how many businessmen have had that many companies go bankrupt that many times for that much money in the last few decades. The list is pretty short.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes and you changed it from 'bankruptcy' to 'failed'. For someone who complains about others misrepresenting him you should be careful not to misrepresent others. Plenty of businesses fail without declaring bankruptcy, including many, many businesses of Trump's. In fact, most of those businesses would never have even had the risk of bankruptcy as they were just shuttered after it turned out they were failing.

If you want to say that out of hundreds of businesses only six declared bankruptcy I would say that's still a horrible record. Let me know how many businessmen have had that many companies go bankrupt that many times for that much money in the last few decades. The list is pretty short.

Context is hard.

 

[UberNeuman]

Context is hard.

Like that concrete block on top your neck.

 

[fskimospy]

Context is hard.

By all means provide context then! Let me guess, you've been misrepresented again, lol.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

By all means provide context then! Let me guess, you've been misrepresented again, lol.

I'm truly amazed that this is so difficult for you. The word "failed" was in direct context to the bankruptcies referred to by Muse. Muse referenced bankruptcies and I linked a factcheck regarding the actual number of bankruptcies. Why is context so fucking hard for you to understand? I'm getting tired of you constantly following me around and twisting my words into your incredibly pedantic and dishonest narrative. Your butthurt must be quite severe for you to behave in such a childish manner. Time to grow up.

 

[Blackjack200]

lol

 

[brycejones]

Oh look another thread devolving into DSF didn't say a thing that he said. Who woulda thunk it?

Besides Buckshat DSF is the most misunderstood poster around here.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh look another thread devolving into DSF didn't say a thing that he said. Who woulda thunk it?

Besides Buckshat DSF is the most misunderstood poster around here.

It is amazing that these two individuals have such a difficult time communicating what they mean. It's probably everyone else's fault.

 

[JD50]

lol, epic meltdown.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It is amazing that these two individuals have such a difficult time communicating what they mean. It's probably everyone else's fault.

You're so fucking dishonest twisting my words, I said exactly what I meant to say little weasel boy.

bank·rupt·cy
ˈbaNGkˌrəp(t)sē/
noun
plural noun: bankruptcies

1. 1.
   the state of being bankrupt.
   "many companies were facing bankruptcy"
   synonyms: insolvency, liquidation, failure, ruin, financial ruin, collapse, receivership
   "many companies were facing bankruptcy"
2. 2.
   the state of being completely lacking in a particular quality or value.
   "the moral bankruptcy of turning away desperate people"

 

[Blackjack200]

LMAO, he just pulled out the dictionary. CHECKMATE!

Stop it, I'm dying!

 

[fskimospy]

I said exactly what I meant little weasel boy.

bank·rupt·cy
ˈbaNGkˌrəp(t)sē/
noun
plural noun: bankruptcies

1. 1.
   the state of being bankrupt.
   "many companies were facing bankruptcy"
   synonyms: insolvency, liquidation, failure, ruin, financial ruin, collapse, receivership
   "many companies were facing bankruptcy"
2. 2.
   the state of being completely lacking in a particular quality or value.
   "the moral bankruptcy of turning away desperate people"

You have no idea how funny it is to me that you continually try to weasel out of saying stupid things by accusing other people of doing what you're doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_failure

All bankruptcies are business failures, but not all business failures are bankruptcies. You tried to treat the two as the same thing, which is a giant crock of shit.

After, a business may be dissolved and have its assets redistributed after filing articles of dissolution. A business that operates multiple locations may continue to operate, but close some of its locations that are under-performing, or in the case of a manufacturer, cease production of some of its products that are not selling well like Fruity King recently under the WalMart brand. Some failing companies are purchased by a new owner who may be able to run the company better, and some are merged with another company that will then take over its operations. Some businesses save themselves through bankruptcy or bankruptcy protection, thereby allowing themselves to restructure.

As best as I can tell the easiest way to tell if DSF considers himself to be misrepresented is if DSF has recently said something that makes him look like an idiot or a liar.

 

[repoman0]

You're so fucking dishonest twisting my words, I said exactly what I meant to say little weasel boy.

You're twisting your own words pretty hard retrospectively to get "failed" to mean the same thing as "bankrupt." Pulling out the dictionary.com synonym card ignores the fact that synonyms still are not the same word and have different connotations and rarely mean exactly the same thing. This didn't have to blow up into a big stupid thing if you would just own up to it in the first place.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You have no idea how funny it is to me that you continually try to weasel out of saying stupid things by accusing other people of doing what you're doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_failure

All bankruptcies are business failures, but not all business failures are bankruptcies. You tried to treat the two as the same thing, which is a giant crock of shit.



As best as I can tell the easiest way to tell if DSF considers himself to be misrepresented is if DSF has recently said something that makes him look like an idiot or a liar.

I was clearly referencing the bankruptcies mentioned by Muse. My apologies if this was just too fucking complex for that pea-sized brain of yours to understand.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You're twisting your own words pretty hard retrospectively to get "failed" to mean the same thing as "bankrupt." Pulling out the dictionary.com synonym card ignores the fact that synonyms still are not the same word and have different connotations and rarely mean exactly the same thing. This didn't have to blow up into a big stupid thing if you would just own up to it in the first place.

Own up to what? Failure is within the definition of the word bankruptcy the last time I checked. I was clearly discussing bankruptcies by my linking the factcheck regarding the specific number of bankruptcies.

 

[repoman0]

Failure is a definition of the word bankruptcy the last time I checked.

But bankruptcy is not the sole definition of failure. There are many definitions of failure, all of which can be considered opposites of the word "success." Let me remind you what you originally said:

Hundreds and hundreds of successful businesses and only 6 have failed. OMG!

I smell irrational fear.

Clearly using the word failure as a direct contrast to success, but also simultaneously using the number of bankruptcies as your supporting argument without saying so. To anyone reading it who doesn't exist in your mind, it looks like you are trying to say that Donald Trump has only had six general business failures.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Get back on the subject of his appointments. The left and the Democrats in this forum will continually try to thread crap and go off the stated topic of a thread. It's what they do when they're losing so badly.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

But bankruptcy is not the sole definition of failure. There are many definitions of failure, all of which can be considered opposites of the word "success." Let me remind you what you originally said:



Clearly using the word failure as a direct contrast to success, but also simultaneously using the number of bankruptcies as your supporting argument without saying so. To anyone reading it who doesn't exist in your mind, it looks like you are trying to say that Donald Trump has only had six general business failures.

Wow. I used the word "failed" in direct reference to the 6 bankruptcies and contrasted this with his hundreds of successes. If you want to argue minutia beyond my original point...I'll agree that there were non-bankruptcy failures as well if that somehow makes you feel better. Regardless, my point stands that his successes have far out-weighed his failures in his business dealings....regardless whether or not these failures resulted in bankruptcy or not.