Trump White House/Cabinet appointments

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Thump553

Lifer
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Aw, special snowflake need a safe space? Lighten up Francis. It's obviously a joke, no "" necessary.

It's not often I agree with Doc Savage, but his response to your "joke" was right on the money. Your comment was totally unfunny and offensive, the sort of crap The Donald dismisses as locker room talk.
 

kage69

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I am actually A-OK with Mattis being selected. Always liked the guy. Anytime 'a reader' gets into a position of authority I approve, and that's not even touching his leadership history.

I really hope he doesn't flush away his minimal progress by picking Palin for, well, anything really. She's barely qualified for the missionary position. Yeah and fuck off to any Trump voters acting offended by Palin jokes; you lot forfeited any right to be offended by crude talk when you got behind II Douche.
 

trenchfoot

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But that's different.

Different in the sense that circumstances like this is going to be completely ignored by Trump supporters, yes, absolutely. But IMO, more and more of these kinds of hypocritical actions by Trump is going to pile up enough to where they can't be ignored anymore, then guess what? Cries of being un-American and being disloyal to the country against those who start complaining will grow louder and louder in order to out-shout the "traitorous dissenters".

This is exactly what happened with the Bush-Cheney era. These two assholes could do no wrong in the eyes of their supporters, yet look at the end result of their calamitous tenures in office. To this very day they are still being held in high regard by many of those folks who voted for these two criminals.

Same thing is already happening with Trump. He can screw up as much as he wants to and he can break as many promises as he likes so long as he can keep fooling the fools folks who put him in office. His PR stunt with Carrier is a perfect example.

If Trump's trend line continues along the lines of his cabinet appointments, of which is ominously similar to the Bush-Cheney appointments, I think it's cautiously safe to assume we'll see the same end results.

I really hope I'm wrong about him, but it sure seems as if history is repeating/continuing the disastrous ideological war that the GOP leadership has been waging against the middle class and the poor for decades running.

For irrefutable proof, all Trump's supporters need to do is take a good look at the GOP's legislative record.

It says it all. And like any of Trump's other two faced backstabbing moves, this will also be conveniently ignored.

Trump is going to keep pulling PR stunts by dropping more crumbs and little treats behind him as he leads his flock (and the rest of us) into more debt and indenture to the very wealthy like himself.
 

Balt

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Mattis seems like a smart guy, and he's pretty well respected so that's good. I do think there are some good arguments against hiring a lifelong military guy to head up the DoD, but certainly Trump could do worse.

He (Mattis) will have to avoid getting too deep in the weeds, though. The SecDef basically manages the largest organization on the planet. Can't get too caught up in just the military strategy part of it.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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That's not a done deal. He will need what is essentially a waiver from both houses of Congress. He must be out of the military for seven years to serve in a public position such as this and he has only been out of the military for three years.

I don't think he'll be opposed. Mattis appears to be a level headed pragmatist rather than an ideological pick. There are any number of cold warrior neocons Trump could have named instead.
 

soundforbjt

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That's not a done deal. He will need what is essentially a waiver from both houses of Congress. He must be out of the military for seven years to serve in a public position such as this and he has only been out of the military for three years.
And when Congress made that exception/waiver once in 1950, the waiver stated that it should never happen again.
 

jeff_in_MD

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I'm thinking that he'll be only the 2nd career military officer to hold that position. The only other was General Marshall. Anyone think he'll be as good as he was?
 

jeff_in_MD

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I doubt it greatly. The VA is an extremely hot seat that is front and center in the media's and public eyes. Obama appointed two apparently excellent people, both of whom crashed and burned. It is not a job to appoint a poser to-the negative blowback will come directly to the President.

Then again I could be wrong-Trump's cabinet appointments so far have been almost universally terrible and apparently based on a "rewards from the throne" mentality.
Trump should follow the time honored pattern for people like Palin-appoint them ambassador to a nice, quiet friendly country.
Maybe Russia, she should know a lot about it as she could see it from Alaska.
 

theeedude

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Sounds like he is itching to invade Iran, I am not sure he learned the lesson from Iraq.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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When I look at posts like this, I see some fairly serious mental depravity wrapped in the thin veneer of a "joke". The internet's major flaw is that it gives a platform for some really perverse people who live in a bubble of partisan hatred. I'm sure they think of themselves as being "good" people and reasonably intelligent. But damn, the mentality on display here is incredibly twisted and needs to be called out for what it is.

The christian right in this country talk chastity and breed bastards, while engaging in birtherism against a black guy far above their station in life, blaming welfare queens while cashing their substantial gubmint checks. I suspect you relate/identify with that sort and thus choose to turn a blind eye to their low-life behavior, even believing yourself to be "good" in the process for some unknown reason.
 

trenchfoot

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Trump "Hillary will never reform Wall Street. She is owned by Wall Street!"

Trump hires Goldman Sachs guy for Secretary of the Treasury

Classic case of fox guarding the hen house.........again.

Yet, I'm still holding on to this glimmer of hope that Trump is assembling for the most part, this rogues gallery of insiders and then, pursuant to his promise to drain the swamp and to get revenge against the establishment that ridiculed him badly, directs them to do the opposite of what they're hard wired for and instead have them restructure the economy in favor of the middle class and the poor for a change. I mean, he did promise to take care of the working class folks, didn't he?

Hey, it's Trump we're talking about here. He's unpredictable, right? He may do the right thing. Right?
 
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Classic case of fox guarding the hen house.........again.

Yet, I'm still holding on to this glimmer of hope that Trump is assembling for the most part, this rogues gallery of insiders and then, pursuant to his promise to drain the swamp and to get revenge against the establishment that ridiculed him badly, directs them to do the opposite of what they're hard wired for and instead have them restructure the economy in favor of the middle class and the poor for a change. I mean, he did promise to take care of the working class folks, didn't he?

Hey, it's Trump we're talking about here. He's unpredictable, right? He may do the right thing. Right?

No.
 
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The christian right in this country talk chastity and breed bastards, while engaging in birtherism against a black guy far above their station in life, blaming welfare queens while cashing their substantial gubmint checks. I suspect you relate/identify with that sort and thus choose to turn a blind eye to their low-life behavior, even believing yourself to be "good" in the process for some unknown reason.
You suspect wrongly. I don't know why you're lashing out at every opportunity...did I hurt your feelings somehow?
 

agent00f

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You suspect wrongly. I don't know why you're lashing out at every opportunity...did I hurt your feelings somehow?

Try reading the post I replied to and see if Pens hurt your feelings somehow. You might have to work that noggin specially hard to grasp the implication.
 

boomerang

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You suspect wrongly. I don't know why you're lashing out at every opportunity...did I hurt your feelings somehow?
From here it smells like fear. Some people are very impressionable and after reading a slew of fake news sites, they come to believe that war has been declared on them because they feel they're different.
 

agent00f

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From here it smells like fear. Some people are very impressionable and after reading a slew of fake news sites, they come to believe that war has been declared on them because they feel they're different.

You must think you're smart or good, mostly because the klan recruiters said so.
 
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From here it smells like fear. Some people are very impressionable and after reading a slew of fake news sites, they come to believe that war has been declared on them because they feel they're different.
I don't know what's going on with agent00f...but it looks like he's completely lost his mind.
 
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Try reading the post I replied to and see if Pens hurt your feelings somehow. You might have to work that noggin specially hard to grasp the implication.
He didn't hurt my feelings one bit. I thought his "joke" was incredibly bad form and called him out on it. Is that a problem for you?
 

nageov3t

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That's not a done deal. He will need what is essentially a waiver from both houses of Congress. He must be out of the military for seven years to serve in a public position such as this and he has only been out of the military for three years.

the waiver is likely to get rubber-stamped by Congress.

I think it's a debate worth having, though... only one waiver has been granted in the law's existence, and that was for a guy who was the first ever 5-star General, a former Secretary of State, and a Nobel Peace Prize winner during a time of war.