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Trump wants to force all Muslims to register with a database

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Puffnstuff said:
I can still have respect for them even though I do not agree with their lifestyle and I can speak out against the act.
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Just have to quibble on one point. It's not a lifestyle. It's a biological reality. There is no choice being made other than the one to embrace what their biology disposes them to be attracted to.

If that's considered sinful, then maybe what makes a sin is a flawed construct.
 
mikeymikec said:
Read up about Ireland's history with sectarian violence; people getting kneecapped or killed ostensibly because of their religious beliefs.

If there is a command in the Bible that justifies sectarian violence (even in a specific and limited context), that will be used by "believers" (ie. the same sort who claim to be Muslim and commit violence in the name of Islam) to justify their nutjobbery.



So you're saying that Christians don't necessarily all have the same beliefs, nor do they derive those beliefs from the Bible? Now are you still going to insist the opposite for Muslims?



Literally no-one is asking you to ignore ISIS. But for you to equate ISIS with all followers of Islam is like equating the IRA and various N.I. protestant terrorists with all Christians. It's stupid.



I've already countered this, but I'll add that if their book commanding them to do so is such an important point in your argument, then why are such a tiny percentage of them doing it?



Tell me about Saudi Arabia and how the people there are probable terrorists. Better yet, tell me why you were apparently equating Syria with Saudi Arabia then silently dropped that point?



All you have done is attempt to claim that disparaging Muslims based on the actions of a tiny percentage is OK. And if all you are doing is to quibble over the word "racism", then we wouldn't be having this discussion.



Yet you keep doing it. This is literally the first time in this argument that you've said anything different, and it doesn't jibe with the rest of your argument: We should treat all Muslims as the same because of what their religious texts say and because there are so many Muslims in the world doing things like committing acts of terrorism. That's basically your entire argument. You are just another bigot, and part of the problem: Organisations like ISIS want you to believe that Islam is the enemy, because the shittier people like you act towards Muslims, the more justification and evidence they have to convince them.
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Nobody is talking about disparaging Muslims I'm talking about being smart about who gets extra screening. You're right though, people can use the bible to justify, to themselves, to do whatever. Problem is they would have to take things out of context to do so. The Quran can legitimately be interpreted to justify violence. God didn't tell modern people to march around Jericho.

I'm not equating all Muslims with ISIS, that would be absurd. I don't think every Muslim interprets the call to violence found in the Quran the same way. I don't think it is "fair" to treat people who haven't done anything wrong as if they might. I'm not concerned with fairness however. I'm concerned with being idiots and treating Granny from Wisconsin as just as likely to be carrying an underwear bomb as some guy on a visa from Saudi Arabia.

I don't think people from Saudi Arabia are "probable" to be terrorists, I think they are more likely to be terrorists than some guy coming in from Sweden. To act differently is stupid and ineffective.

There have been polls taken where a large percentage of Muslims from certain countries have very extremist views. High percentages think it is sometimes ok to kill apostates. Poll was done by Pew which has been discussed here before. These are people who publicly admit these things, the number is probably higher.

Now that I have disabused you of some of your assumptions can we have a discussion now?

Do you think it is ok to treat (as in immigration policy) people from different parts of the world differently?
 
Need to a mind reading machine to get the job done, unfortunately we don't have one.

Or maybe Trump will send police to every Muslim temple and force anyone who goes to Muslim temples to register?

If Muslim people/citizens don't want to register, what is Trump going to do? Arrest them or deport them?
 
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Blue_Max said:
...and I find it bizarre that regressives consider themselves to be the "good" side.

This movement to complete polarization just seems to keep happening across the globe... straight out of Revealation type stuff. It's the 'progressives' who want to punish the non. It's the 'progressives' who lie at will to spread their agendas. It's the 'progressives' who want to take everything from the 'non' and put them in jail/prison camps/graves. It's the 'progressives' who want to destroy loving families and replace it with a level of sexual depravity found in Sodom and Gomorrah (see your average slutwalk.) It's the 'progressives' who want to destroy the entire male gender. It's the 'progressives' who ally themselves with some of the most violent, cruel people on earth and call it "good" -- and punish anyone who doesn't agree.

It's the 'progressives' who are burning the USA down right now.

It's a pretty simple conclusion based on abundant evidence that the regressive progressives are not the "good guys" they claim to be.
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What a load of shit.
 
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buckshot24 said:
Muslim isn't a race.
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Funny that...
 
Blue_Max said:
...and I find it bizarre that regressives consider themselves to be the "good" side.

This movement to complete polarization just seems to keep happening across the globe... straight out of Revealation type stuff. It's the 'progressives' who want to punish the non. It's the 'progressives' who lie at will to spread their agendas. It's the 'progressives' who want to take everything from the 'non' and put them in jail/prison camps/graves. It's the 'progressives' who want to destroy loving families and replace it with a level of sexual depravity found in Sodom and Gomorrah (see your average slutwalk.) It's the 'progressives' who want to destroy the entire male gender. It's the 'progressives' who ally themselves with some of the most violent, cruel people on earth and call it "good" -- and punish anyone who doesn't agree.

It's the 'progressives' who are burning the USA down right now.

It's a pretty simple conclusion based on abundant evidence that the regressive progressives are not the "good guys" they claim to be.
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deplorable.
 
According to Trump, Muslims are inter-changeable with Terrorists. He is already pushing for an anti-terrorist policy which will largely put them as a second-class citizen. Below those of worst of the poverty line, with the added benefit of freely raping terrorist women or killing them outright(particularly the family members without female genitalia).
 
NostaSeronx said:
According to Trump, Muslims are inter-changeable with Terrorists. He is already pushing for an anti-terrorist policy which will largely put them as a second-class citizen. Below those of worst of the poverty line, with the added benefit of freely raping terrorist women or killing them outright(particularly the family members without female genitalia).
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Citation?
 
NostaSeronx said:
Himself. Every rally with a muslim/terrorist tone.
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Negative. He even says "most muslims are wonderful people", only that there is a problem with islam (and PC culture) in the world. He also said the koran has some very negative stuff in it that encourages violence.
And he's right.
Your video (and no other) implies that he said all muslims are evil and muslims = terrorists.
...but I suspect your brainwashing is so deep there's nothing that could convince you otherwise.
 
Blue_Max said:
Negative.
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Negative, positive on all muslims are terrorists.
Blue_Max said:
He even says "most muslims are wonderful people",
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That is his red herring to make it sound like he isn't calling them terrorists. It is the same type of argument like: That I have black friends. Even though I am a white supremist who would lynch a few in a KKK fundraiser.
Blue_Max said:
He also said the koran has some very negative stuff in it that encourages violence.
And he's right.
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All books of faith have violence and encourage it in them. There is no book of faith that isn't safe from violence.

The issue is that Muslim is a vague term;
- Sunni
- Shia
- Ibadi
- Sufism
- Quranism
- Ahmadiyya
- Black Moorish
- Nondenominational

Much like Christians;
- Catholicism
- Protestantism
- Eastern Orthodoxy
- Oriental Orthodoxy
- Anglicanism
- Restorationism
- Nontrinitarianism
- Church of the East
 
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Blue_Max said:
Where? F*king where did he say that? Certainly not in that video.

Nice dancing around your own bullcrap.
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It's cute that all your enemies must be explicit while all your allies can lean heavily on implication.

That you cannot imagine things implied but unspoken by those you support, when that's exactly how they garner said support from you.

The life of a childish pendant.
 
Blue_Max said:
...except you're making a false accusation. You can't prove that accusation. You have no evidence.
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I have your posting history. You always ask for everything that anyone says to be explicit, meanwhile citing "evidence" that typically lacks for anything remotely explicit, but instead favors implications and suppositions.

I know you'll now ask me to cite examples, so let's skip that step, because nothing could compel me to sift through the detritus that is your backlog.
 
HomerJS said:
How many thing as Trump proposed when your response is "that isn't going to happen"

Don't you think what a President says has consequences? Is he just lying or does he have a clue

You are going to be licking a lot of ass in the next four years.
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Nope. Not gonna do it.

The only reason that I voted for Trump is for the Supreme Court Appointments. As I have stated here many times.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Nope. Not gonna do it.

The only reason that I voted for Trump is for the Supreme Court Appointments. As I have stated here many times.
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doesn't matter what you voted for him for. i'ts not like all you are going to get are his SC appointments and avoid the rest.

you voted for the whole shitlicking package at once, so enjoy the ride
 
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