Trump to China : Here, take over PacRim, it's yours.

sdifox

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With Trump working on scrapping TPP on his first day of office, many PacRim countries are looking to PRC's trade deal as an alternative. Just give US's influence in PacRim to PRC why don't you.

/n facepalm.
 
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ivwshane

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This election will be known as (if we ever recover) the election of stupidity, by stupidity, for stupidity.
 

sdifox

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PS since Canada is basically America's purse shitzu, we don't get the opportunity to even join China's version of TPP. And Trump has NAFTA in his sights as well. So triple whammy for us.
 

agent00f

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This election will be known as (if we ever recover) the election of stupidity, by stupidity, for stupidity.

Maybe stupid of many/most of us, but not for authoritarian nationalists looking to consolidate power.

Eg. the russian economy might be kinda shit, but Putin's domestic grip has never been tighter.
 

sdifox

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We'll all be royally fucked if EU follows suit and swings far right.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I've said it many times before, but I can't wait until China destroys Western hyper-consumption degeneracy. It would be all the more poetic if a chronic spendthrift and symbol of obscene opulence like Trump is the guy to pull the trigger.
 

Svnla

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I've said it many times before, but I can't wait until China destroys Western hyper-consumption degeneracy. It would be all the more poetic if a chronic spendthrift and symbol of obscene opulence like Trump is the guy to pull the trigger.

If Western consumers (US, EU, others) are gone, commie china is dead meat because they have no one to buy their junks. Let them deal with a few hundred million unemployed chinese. Not a pretty picture.
 
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sdifox

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If Western consumers (US, EU, others) are gone, commie china is dead meat because they have no one to buy their junks. Let them deal with a few hundred unemployed chinese. Not a pretty picture.
They have been investing heavily in Africa. Don't forget BRIC and the Chinese version of TPP.
 

JSt0rm

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Some of the trump voters on this very forum think a depression will do us good. Make us self reliant and all that. I don't think this stock market is reflective of whats coming.
 

Svnla

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They have been investing heavily in Africa. Don't forget BRIC and the Chinese version of TPP.

So they can get raw materials and resources. Most of Africa is still poor, no money to buy junks from china.
 

HamburgerBoy

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If Western consumers (US and EU) are gone, commie china is dead meat because they have no one to buy their junks. Let them deal with a few hundred unemployed chinese. Not a pretty picture.

Of course it would be a disaster for the entire world if Chinese-American relations were severed, but China does more than just create junk now. They have tons of natural resources, and have been expanding in Africa to increase their slice of the pie even further. They have a very flexible form of government, and while the immediate depression would be terrible, there's no reason they can't go full-nationalist/fascist and start building for themselves, as well as their immediate neighbors (the entirety of Southeast Asia seems to be going wonky right now). They're increasingly well-educated and could conceivably approach the cutting-edge of tech in a decade or two and be as competitive as any Western industry; a relative lack of ethical constraints could even put them ahead of us where medicine and biotech are concerned.

Oh, and they have nukes, which means most of the world is limited in terms of constraining their expansion.
 

agent00f

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Of course it would be a disaster for the entire world if Chinese-American relations were severed, but China does more than just create junk now. They have tons of natural resources, and have been expanding in Africa to increase their slice of the pie even further. They have a very flexible form of government, and while the immediate depression would be terrible, there's no reason they can't go full-nationalist/fascist and start building for themselves, as well as their immediate neighbors (the entirety of Southeast Asia seems to be going wonky right now). They're increasingly well-educated and could conceivably approach the cutting-edge of tech in a decade or two and be as competitive as any Western industry; a relative lack of ethical constraints could even put them ahead of us where medicine and biotech are concerned.

Oh, and they have nukes, which means most of the world is limited in terms of constraining their expansion.

Just a heads up svnla considers chinese people subhuman.
 

Svnla

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Just a heads up svnla considers chinese people subhuman.

Keep lying with that stupid mouth of yours won't make anything to become true. Hey, after I shamed and humiliated you in public with facts about how poor china really is, funny how you would not dare to boast about how great china is and how powerful it is. LOL. :D

You are very welcome for the verbal mocking and humiliation smackdown from me. It was free. LOL.
 

JSt0rm

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Of course it would be a disaster for the entire world if Chinese-American relations were severed, but China does more than just create junk now. They have tons of natural resources, and have been expanding in Africa to increase their slice of the pie even further. They have a very flexible form of government, and while the immediate depression would be terrible, there's no reason they can't go full-nationalist/fascist and start building for themselves, as well as their immediate neighbors (the entirety of Southeast Asia seems to be going wonky right now). They're increasingly well-educated and could conceivably approach the cutting-edge of tech in a decade or two and be as competitive as any Western industry; a relative lack of ethical constraints could even put them ahead of us where medicine and biotech are concerned.

Oh, and they have nukes, which means most of the world is limited in terms of constraining their expansion.

its like your dream country.
 

JSt0rm

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Keep lying with that stupid mouth of yours won't make anything to become true. Hey, after I shamed and humiliated you in public with facts about how poor china really is, funny how you would not dare to boas about how great china is and how powerful it is. LOL. :D

You are very welcome for the verbal mocking and humiliation. It was free. LOL.

oh god. Here we go. :)

Guns make you less safe.

You hate black people.
 

agent00f

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Keep lying with that stupid mouth of yours won't make anything to become true. Hey, after I shamed and humiliated you in public with facts about how poor china really is, funny how you would not dare to boas about how great china is and how powerful it is. LOL. :D

You are very welcome for the verbal mocking and humiliation. It was free. LOL.

Thanks for helpfully demonstrating your sub-trumpster iq, too, https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/chinese-tourists-at-a-buffet.2467661/page-5#post-38123946.
 

Svnla

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oh god. Here we go. :)

Guns make you less safe.

You hate black people.

Facts are facts. Where did I say I hate black people? You mean like how you LIE about 99% = 99.99% = figure of speech? ROTFLAO,
 

Svnla

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If you are going to play that game, I can play it too. I can quote multiple posts about how I support ordinary chinese. How about I post them, then you apologize to me in public and leave this place forever? Deal?

Dear the readers, look at this lying newbie will fold and run like a bitch. Would not dare to take on my challenge, again. :D
 

agent00f

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Facts are facts. Where did I say I hate black people? You mean like how you LIE about 99% = 99.99% = figure of speech? ROTFLAO,

If you are going to play that game, I can play it too. I can quote multiple posts about how I support ordinary chinese. How about I post them, then you apologize to me in public and leave this place forever? Deal?

Dear the readers, look at this lying newbie will fold and run like a bitch. Would not dare to take on my challenge, again. :D

Worth mentioning this is a prime example of the very low information sort noted here: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-against-clinton.2492485/page-4#post-38591787