Trump threatens to remove news networks' press credentials over negative coverage

[brycejones]

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Just contrasting methodologies for dealing with annoying press coverage. Trump can definitely learn a few things from Obama.

And the partisan tool bag AKA DSF completely whiffs on the point.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

what's that word Whataboutmeiesm?

How about

Butwhataboutsomeyhingelsethathasnothingtodithwhatweraretalkingaboutism

The topic isn't about the WH dealing with adverse press coverage? Oh...I see...only Trump can be criticized in this context. I get it now.

Whataboutism my ass...this is about protecting the frail ideological bubbles of brain-dead morons who have a short memory and extremely low tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

 

[umbrella39]

Man you are one batshit crazy moron lately... You've got nothing but a trail of embarrassment behind you kid...

 

[fskimospy]

The topic isn't about the WH dealing with adverse press coverage? Oh...I see...only Trump can be criticized in this context. I get it now.

Whataboutism my ass...this is about protecting the frail ideological bubbles of brain-dead morons who have a short memory and extremely low tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

No, this topic IS about the White House dealing with adverse press coverage. You attempted to make an investigation into leaks of classified information into the same thing as Trump whining about the press being insufficiently deferential.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

No, this topic IS about the White House dealing with adverse press coverage. You attempted to make an investigation into leaks of classified information into the same thing as Trump whining about the press being insufficiently deferential.

You're right, it's not the same thing. What the Obama administration did to James Rosen was a much more pernicious attack on the First and Fourth Amendments...much more so than the mere possibly that Trump may yank the press credentials for a couple of exceptionally rude and combative reporters.

 

[zinfamous]

It's really quite simple: if there is any merit to Trump's claims that the press is being unfair and publishing lies about him, then Trump can sue them for libel.

I wonder why he isn't even trying to do that?

...can publications sue Trump for his calling their legitimate journalism fake?

 

[fskimospy]

You're right, it's not the same thing. What the Obama administration did to James Rosen was a much more pernicious attack on the First and Fourth Amendments...much more so than the mere possibly that Trump may yank the press credentials for a couple of exceptionally rude and combative reporters.

lol 'exceptionally rude and combative'. Trump didn't specify anyone, he simply said that maybe he should take away their credentials for reporting negatively on him. Nice attempt to dishonestly insert facts not in evidence though. Shameful.

As for Obama's relationship with the press that has nothing to do with our man-baby president throwing a temper tantrum because the news has the temerity to accurately report on his incompetence and corruption.

 

[interchange]

The topic isn't about the WH dealing with adverse press coverage? Oh...I see...only Trump can be criticized in this context. I get it now.

Whataboutism my ass...this is about protecting the frail ideological bubbles of brain-dead morons who have a short memory and extremely low tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

Perhaps you can provide us some evidence that the Obama administration was unhappy with the press coverage Rosen provided? Any evidence at all that there was any motivation to investigate Rosen other than criminal investigation? Any evidence that Obama himself was involved in any of the decisions made by the FBI and DOJ? Or really even aware of them? Or how you rectify your stance of this activity with the fact that these activities required obtaining warrants in federal court where judges had responsibility for limiting the investigation on constitutional grounds?

 

[boomerang]

Proggies still trying to control the narrative I see. No bigger bunch of control freaks exists anywhere. Dennis Miller says Trumps Rope-A-Dope is working and he couldn't be more spot on. He has the media chasing their tails everyday while the proggies trot behind them sniffing their butts.

To quote Hillary: Arf, arf, arf, arf

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

lol 'exceptionally rude and combative'. Trump didn't specify anyone, he simply said that maybe he should take away their credentials for reporting negatively on him. Nice attempt to dishonestly insert facts not in evidence though. Shameful.

As for Obama's relationship with the press that has nothing to do with our man-baby president throwing a temper tantrum because the news has the temerity to accurately report on his incompetence and corruption.

Trump has done nothing except to suggest a possibility. Your whining is premature...perhaps you should wait until you have a complaint that's actually legitimate before lighting your hair on fire.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump has done nothing except to suggest a possibility. Your whining is premature...perhaps you should wait until you have a complaint that's actually legitimate before lighting your hair on fire.

Huh? I called him out for whining like a baby when people report on him accurately. Apparently you have a really big problem with people saying the obvious about Trump as you're running interference for him as hard as you can.

 

[brycejones]

Trump has done nothing except to suggest a possibility. Your whining is premature...perhaps you should wait until you have a complaint that's actually legitimate before lighting your hair on fire.

Congrats, you're on the TrumpCare water boy health care plan obviously. Hopefully your body can hold up under the ever increasing amounts of water you will have to carry.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Huh? I called him out for whining like a baby when people report on him accurately. Apparently you have a really big problem with people saying the obvious about Trump as you're running interference for him as hard as you can.

The average Joe is now completely sensitized to the current hostile media environment and has lost faith in MSMs ability to be reasonably objective. You call this kind of reporting "accurate"...but are blind to this pervasive bias and how it's widely perceived...with the majority of Americans now thinking the media is unfair to Trump.

You should have watched that Chris Wallace video I posted a few days ago...it was spot on.

 

[fskimospy]

The average Joe is now completely sensitized to the current hostile media environment and has lost faith in MSMs ability to be reasonably objective. You call this kind of reporting "accurate"...but are blind to this pervasive bias and how it's widely perceived...with the majority of Americans now thinking the media is unfair to Trump.

That's not what the polls say, at least all the ones I can pull up. They say the average Joe thinks Trump is being treated fairly by the media.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375652-poll-voters-say-trump-is-unfair-to-the-media

A majority of voters believe that the media treats President Trump fairly and say that it’s the president who is unfair in his attacks against the media, according to a new poll.

https://www.westernjournal.com/poll...inks-media-coverage-on-trump-is-too-critical/

About 45 percent of those polled said they believe media coverage has been too critical of the administration. That total is nearly twice the 24 percent who said it is not critical enough.

Another 27 percent told pollsters they believe media coverage is generally fair.

If you look into the crosstabs of these polls you see that the perception that Trump is being treated unfairly is overwhelmingly among Republicans. Independents and Democrats, as usual, are much closer to each other in what they think about the media. This likely has to do with Republicans being in the conservative media bubble just like the one that apparently convinced you of this nonsense, haha.

It's important to remember that conservatives live in a media environment that's completely alien to the rest of the country. I know you guys think the average person believes conservatives are persecuted by the media, that Trump is persecuted by the media, that there are endless conspiracies against you, etc, but that's because you live in a bubble. You don't understand what normal people think because reality proved too terrible for conservatives to accept so they built their own.

You should have watched that Chris Wallace video I posted a few days ago...it was spot on.

I asked you what point it was making that you agreed with and you refused to say. If you're that excited about the video I would think you would have. Instead I suspect you were reluctant to say whatever point you wanted to make so you could 'who, me?' your way out of it.

 

[sdifox]

The average Joe is now completely sensitized to the current hostile media environment and has lost faith in MSMs ability to be reasonably objective. You call this kind of reporting "accurate"...but are blind to this pervasive bias and how it's widely perceived...with the majority of Americans now thinking the media is unfair to Trump.

You should have watched that Chris Wallace video I posted a few days ago...it was spot on.

so Trump's own words are biased against Trump? Who knew?

 

[fskimospy]

so Trump's own words are biased against Trump? Who knew?

If anything from the beginning in 2015 onwards the media has been far, far too kind to Trump specifically because of this kind of crap from people like DSF.

What the media needs to learn is that conservatives will ALWAYS believe it is biased against them no matter what because 'bias' to conservatives is any news conservatives don't like.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

81% - Not scientific, but a reasonable indicator of popular opinion
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-has-the-media-been-unfair-donald-trump

52% of voters believe most reporters are trying to block the president from passing his agenda
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...s_see_reporters_as_more_anti_trump_these_days

83% (45% great amount of bias and 38% fair amount of bias)
http://news.gallup.com/poll/225755/americans-news-bias-name-neutral-source.aspx

Data sources:
https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...l/Knight-Gallup_Media_Survey_2017_English.pdf

https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...ight-Gallup_Media_Study_Crosstabulations.xlsx

And lastly, I thought I already told you that Chris Wallace does a way better job of explaining the core issue with MSM than I can.

 

[outriding]

The average Joe is now completely sensitized to the current hostile media environment and has lost faith in MSMs ability to be reasonably objective. You call this kind of reporting "accurate"...but are blind to this pervasive bias and how it's widely perceived...with the majority of Americans now thinking the media is unfair to Trump.

You should have watched that Chris Wallace video I posted a few days ago...it was spot on.

I guess I am one of those desensitized average Joes

Can you give me an example of this hostile msm you speak of

 

[fskimospy]

81% - Not scientific, but a reasonable indicator of popular opinion
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-has-the-media-been-unfair-donald-trump

Not scientific, therefore not even a remotely reasonable indicator of popular opinion. This is why the president is not Harambe or Presidenty McPresidentface.

I can't believe you would try and pass off this kind of garbage with a straight face but I'll remember it next time you accuse someone of dishonesty.

52% of voters believe most reporters are trying to block the president from passing his agenda
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...s_see_reporters_as_more_anti_trump_these_days

I was waiting for the Rasmussen poll, haha. Rasmussen's long established record of bias and poor accuracy aside, reporters trying to block Trump from passing his agenda does not mean they are treating him unfairly. If Trump were trying to set up concentration camps reporting on that would both be accurate and reasonably viewed as trying to block his agenda. This poll does not support your statement.

83% (45% great amount of bias and 38% fair amount of bias)
http://news.gallup.com/poll/225755/americans-news-bias-name-neutral-source.aspx

Data sources:
https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...l/Knight-Gallup_Media_Survey_2017_English.pdf

https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...ight-Gallup_Media_Study_Crosstabulations.xlsx

Whether people believe bias exists in the media generally says nothing as to whether or not people believe the media is biased against Trump. It should go without saying that liberals and conservatives are thinking of very different news organizations when they claim media bias. This also does not support your claim. I produced two scientific polls that directly addressed your statement and showed it to be false. You responded with an online poll (seriously, what the fuck?) and a bunch of polls that didn't address the question. If you're an honorable person you will admit you were wrong. I sincerely doubt you are an honorable person though.

And lastly, I thought I already told you that Chris Wallace does a way better job of explaining the core issue with MSM than I can.

I want to know what you think, not what Chris Wallace thinks. That way you can't 'who, me?' your way out of it.

 

[Amused]

81% - Not scientific, but a reasonable indicator of popular opinion
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/poll-has-the-media-been-unfair-donald-trump

52% of voters believe most reporters are trying to block the president from passing his agenda
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...s_see_reporters_as_more_anti_trump_these_days

83% (45% great amount of bias and 38% fair amount of bias)
http://news.gallup.com/poll/225755/americans-news-bias-name-neutral-source.aspx

Data sources:
https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...l/Knight-Gallup_Media_Survey_2017_English.pdf

https://kf-site-production.s3.amazo...ight-Gallup_Media_Study_Crosstabulations.xlsx

And lastly, I thought I already told you that Chris Wallace does a way better job of explaining the core issue with MSM than I can.

Look, I can cherry pick too! Weee! This is as fun as debating anti-vaxers and science deniers!

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/trump-and-media-bias

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...e-media-biased-against-trump/article37038375/

http://www.newsweek.com/liberal-media-not-biased-trump-thinks-703291

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...e-media-but-not-because-of-bias/#35f6661e728e

With the exception that mine are based on actual studies, and not appeals to popular opinion.

Yep, still just like debating an anti-vaxxer.

Trump gets terrible press because he says and does terrible things. Full stop.

Ya know, as a rather conservative person myself I was initially annoyed at the joke that "facts have a liberal bias." But as time goes on, that seems to be the case since the right-wing has gone full batshit now.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Poll: Majority of voters believe media biased against Trump
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-media-bias-against-donald-trump-229998

Six in 10 in U.S. See Partisan Bias in News Media
http://news.gallup.com/poll/207794/six-partisan-bias-news-media.aspx

 

[fskimospy]

Poll: Majority of voters believe media biased against Trump
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-media-bias-against-donald-trump-229998

lol, now a poll from 18 months ago. My polls are from February and two days ago.

Six in 10 in U.S. See Partisan Bias in News Media

http://news.gallup.com/poll/207794/six-partisan-bias-news-media.aspx

A poll from more than a year ago that says nothing about whether the media is fair to Trump or not. My polls DIRECTLY addressed your question.

You are an incredibly dishonest sack of garbage.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Look, I can cherry pick too! Weee! This is as fun as debating anti-vaxers and science deniers!

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/trump-and-media-bias

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...e-media-biased-against-trump/article37038375/

http://www.newsweek.com/liberal-media-not-biased-trump-thinks-703291

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...e-media-but-not-because-of-bias/#35f6661e728e

With the exception that mine are based on actual studies, and not appeals to popular opinion.

Yep, still just like debating an anti-vaxxer.

Trump gets terrible press because he says and does terrible things. Full stop.

Ya know, as a rather conservative person myself I was initially annoyed at the joke that "facts have a liberal bias." But as time goes on, that seems to be the case since the right-wing has gone full batshit now.

An incredibly significant number of people think there's media bias against Trump. My point stands....regardless if the percentage is 83% or 45%.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

lol, now a poll from 18 months ago. My polls are from February and two days ago.

ROFL. Are you actually advocating that Trump's coverage is now widely perceived as being less biased since that time? Yeah, that's it...that's the ticket!

If anyone's being an incredibly dishonest sack of garbage here...it's you.

 

[outriding]

Poll: Majority of voters believe media biased against Trump
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-media-bias-against-donald-trump-229998

Six in 10 in U.S. See Partisan Bias in News Media
http://news.gallup.com/poll/207794/six-partisan-bias-news-media.aspx

So all your evidence about hostility is just a poll about people's feels?

And the left is called a bunch of snowflakes... Jesus.. you must sit down when you pee.

Lets play a game.. who said this Trump or reporters?

"Stupid question,"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...d_question_about_pardoning_michael_cohen.html

Shithole countries
Dumb as a Rock Mika
Crazy Megyn
Sloppy Steve
Failing New York Times
Deface The Nation
Clinton News Network
Amazon Washington Post
blood coming out of her wherever
Who made fun of a handicapped person?

Should i go on?

Those in glass houses should not throw rocks.