Trump threatens to remove news networks' press credentials over negative coverage

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Sunburn74

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I would make it like positive but stupid stuff to see if he picks up on it.

Like Trump successfully picked out his clothes today and tied his own necktie this time without any assistance.

That's a positive story they can run.
 

Jhhnn

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This is Trump's idea of journalism-

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trenchfoot

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Of course fake news is a thing. It mostly originates from Trump and Russian trolls.

Trump is the only POTUS I know of that fights against what he considers fake news with real fake news of his own. Bush and Cheney did a pretty good job of it but they got nothing when compared to Trump's rapid fire fake fests.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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So does the white house have freedom to decide who gets press credentials based on any reasoning they choose? Or is there a first amendment problem here?

It's both. Not everyone who is a member of the press gets to be in the press corp. Someone wants to come in and be a mouthpiece for some crackpot? That doesn't have to be permitted.

Trump however isn't objecting on legitimate business. He's using the threat of Presidential power, the power to which the Constitution applies to silence those who aren't on his side.

If this goes to the courts It's very likely to be taken down very hard. It's much less of a gray area than a President's ability to set immigration policy.
 

Jhhnn

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It's both. Not everyone who is a member of the press gets to be in the press corp. Someone wants to come in and be a mouthpiece for some crackpot? That doesn't have to be permitted.

Trump however isn't objecting on legitimate business. He's using the threat of Presidential power, the power to which the Constitution applies to silence those who aren't on his side.

If this goes to the courts It's very likely to be taken down very hard. It's much less of a gray area than a President's ability to set immigration policy.

GOP propagandists have been setting up a Leader Cult mentality among conservatives for decades. Except they couldn't provide the Strong Leader charisma until Trump saw it for what it is.

Lots of people tried to tell 'em to quit crazifying those poor people but they wouldn't listen, of course. It's how they win elections & top down class warfare, too. They thought they could always control it, bring it forth & stuff it back in the bottle as they pleased. Except crazy doesn't work that way forever.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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GOP propagandists have been setting up a Leader Cult mentality among conservatives for decades. Except they couldn't provide the Strong Leader charisma until Trump saw it for what it is.

Lots of people tried to tell 'em to quit crazifying those poor people but they wouldn't listen, of course. It's how they win elections & top down class warfare, too. They thought they could always control it, bring it forth & stuff it back in the bottle as they pleased. Except crazy doesn't work that way forever.

They're pretty much done. Even Republicans themselves are worried about candidates "more Trump than Trump"/
 
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sdifox

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So does the white house have freedom to decide who gets press credentials based on any reasoning they choose? Or is there a first amendment problem here?

I don't think there is a first amendment issue since he is not limiting what the press can say about him, he is limiting access to WH press conference. Looks bad, but that never stopped him before. Press passes have been yanked before.
 

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Hmmm...wonder what "take away credentials" means?

Aren't credentials granted by the media company to its employees? I did not know that there were govt "credentials" that could be rewarded or revoked.

Unless of course, he means, limit or take away the first amendment. That would "take away their credentials.

So, in other words, negative = fake. And let's license the press...
 

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Hmmm...wonder what "take away credentials" means?

Aren't credentials granted by the media company to its employees? I did not know that there were govt "credentials" that could be rewarded or revoked.

Unless of course, he means, limit or take away the first amendment. That would "take away their credentials.

So, in other words, negative = fake. And let's license the press...

Hmmm looking it up they are accredited through the standing committee of correspondents in Congress which is elected by accredited members of the press. The White House doesn't control this but the Secret Service does do background checks and can remove members who are a security risk.
 
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Rather than yanking press credentials, I believe government surveillance would be a more fitting solution to deal with these criminal co-conspirators.
 

Thebobo

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Rather than yanking press credentials, I believe government surveillance would be a more fitting solution to deal with these criminal co-conspirators.

Maybe I am reading this wrong since you didn't quote anyone are you saying the journalist are criminal co-conspirators. If by some bizarre chance you are, who and what are they doing that's criminal and who are they allegedly doing it with to make it a conspiracy?
 
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hal2kilo

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Maybe I am reading this wrong since you didn't quite anyone are you saying the journalist are criminal co-conspirators. If by some bizarre chance you are, who and what are they doing that's criminal and who are they allegedly doing it with to make it a conspiracy?
He must be referring to Hannity or Carl Tucker. <wow I meant Tucker Carlson. Senility is not far away.
 
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Maybe I am reading this wrong since you didn't quote anyone are you saying the journalist are criminal co-conspirators. If by some bizarre chance you are, who and what are they doing that's criminal and who are they allegedly doing it with to make it a conspiracy?
That's a f*cking great question!

Fox News reporter secretly monitored by Obama administration: court documents
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fox-ne...ored-by-obama-administration-court-documents/

2013 Department of Justice investigations of reporters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters#James_Rosen
 
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fskimospy

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That's a f*cking great question!

Fox News reporter secretly monitored by Obama administration: court documents
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fox-ne...ored-by-obama-administration-court-documents/

How on earth did you make the jump from Trump denying press access for saying negative things about him to Obama going after leaks of classified information? You can reasonably argue that Obama shouldn't have done that, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's temper tantrum other than they both happen to involve journalists.

Seriously weak whataboutism.
 
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How on earth did you make the jump from Trump denying press access for saying negative things about him to Obama going after leaks of classified information? You can reasonably argue that Obama shouldn't have done that, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's temper tantrum other than they both happen to involve journalists.

Seriously weak whataboutism.
Just contrasting methodologies for dealing with annoying press coverage. Trump can definitely learn a few things from Obama.
 

Thebobo

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what's that word Whataboutmeiesm?

How about

Butwhataboutsomeyhingelsethathasnothingtodithwhatweraretalkingaboutism
 

fskimospy

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Just contrasting methodologies for dealing with annoying press coverage. Trump can definitely learn a few things from Obama.

Is your claim that the FBI investigated this reporter because they were engaging in press coverage that 'annoyed' Obama? If so, on what basis? The FBI was investigating criminal activity. Whether or not you agree with how the Obama administration handled that it has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, which is the president attempting to revoke credentials solely for engaging in journalism that displeases him.

It's this sort of nonsense that enables Trump to act as corruptly as he does. Focus on the real problem.