Trump sends a legal US resident to an El Salvador prison camp. Claims is was a "mistake" and now refuses to get him back.

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Pens1566 said:
Bondi's little ending to the press conference where she brought up grooming, etc. is gonna be a FIELD DAY for his counsel.
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That is exactly what they want.. even more reason to ignore laws, judges and to override the system.

Do any of them seem afraid to you of losing elections?

If you vote for me, you won't ever have to vote again!.. hint hint
 
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thilanliyan

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I'm guessing they're charging him to save face after bringing him back...it will quietly be dropped imo. (ie. they don't have any actual evidence of any crimes)
 
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thilanliyan said:
I'm guessing they're charging him to save face after bringing him back...it will quietly be dropped imo. (ie. they don't have any actual evidence of any crimes)
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They're absolutely charging him to try and have an off ramp, and justify their illegal actions after the fact.

But it also shows the effectively have constructive custody over the people illegally sent to El Salvador.

The whole escapade and the current actions of the government and ICE are gross and against what it means to live in America.
 
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Brainonska511 said:
They're absolutely charging him to try and have an off ramp, and justify their illegal actions after the fact.

But it also shows the effectively have constructive custody over the people illegally sent to El Salvador.

The whole escapade and the current actions of the government and ICE are gross and against what it means to live in America.
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The idea that the US could not stand up to the mighty government of El Salvador (who we are contracting to do this) was always a transparent lie.
 
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This is what the Administration, its supporters and its enablers believe as "good"



120. Upon arrival at CECOT, the detainees were greeted by a prison official who stated, “Welcome to CECOT. Whoever enters here doesn’t leave.” Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was then forced to strip, issued prison clothing, and subjected to physical abuse including being kicked in the legs with boots and struck on his head and arms to make him change clothes faster. His head was shaved with a zero razor, and he was frog-marched to cell 15, being struck with wooden batons along the way. By the following day, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia had visible bruises and lumps all over his body.

121. In Cell 15, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia and 20 other Salvadorans were forced to kneel from approximately 9:00 PM to 6:00 AM, with guards striking anyone who fell from exhaustion. During this time, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was denied bathroom access and soiled himself. The detainees were confined to metal bunks with no mattresses in an overcrowded cell with no windows, bright lights that remained on 24 hours a day, and minimal access to sanitation.

122. After approximately one week at CECOT, prison director Osiris Luna and other officials separated the 21 Salvadorans who had arrived together. Twelve individuals with visible gang-related tattoos were moved to another cell, while Plaintiff Abrego Garcia remained with eight others who, like him, upon information and belief had no gang affiliations or tattoos.

123. As reflected by his segregation, the Salvadoran authorities recognized that Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was not affiliated with any gang and, at around this time, prison officials explicitly acknowledged that Plaintiff Abrego Garcia’s tattoos were not gang-related, telling him “your tattoos are fine.”

124. While at CECOT, prison officials repeatedly told Plaintiff Abrego Garcia that they would transfer him to the cells containing gang members who, they assured him, would “tear” him apart.

125. Indeed, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia repeatedly observed prisoners in nearby cells who he understood to be gang members violently harm each other with no intervention from guards or personnel. Screams from nearby cells would similarly ring out throughout the night without any response from prison guards on personnel.

126. During his first two weeks at CECOT, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia suffered a significant deterioration in his physical condition and lost approximately 31 pounds (dropping from approximately 215 pounds to 184 pounds).

127. On April 9, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia and four others were transferred to a different module in CECOT, where they were photographed with mattresses and better food—photos that appeared to be staged to document improved conditions.

128. On or about April 10, 2025, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was transferred alone to the Centro Industrial prison facility in Santa Ana, El Salvador.

129. While at Centro Industrial, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was frequently hidden from visitors, being told to remain in a separate room whenever outside visitors came to the facility.

130. During his entire time in detention in El Salvador, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was denied any communication with his family and access to counsel until Senator Van Hollen visited him on April 17, 2025
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fskimospy said:
And as a reminder there are likely hundreds more people being subjected to the same treatment despite having committed no crimes and having no trial. In fact, we're paying for them to be tortured!

This is Nazism. Period.
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We have no honor, or shame, apparently.

Not enough of us, at least.
 
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As Handmaids Tale has had its final season it almost feels like it's been picked up by another network?
 
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Remember when you morons believed Trump when he said he couldn’t get Garcia back? Court filing proves he was lying from the start.


The Salvadoran State emphatically states that its authorities have not arrested, detained, or transferred the persons referred to in the communications of the Working Group. The actions of the State of El Salvador have been limited to the implementation of a bilateral cooperation mechanism with another State, through which it has facilitated the use of the Salvadoran prison infrastructure for the custody of persons detained within the scope of the justice system and law enforcement of that other State. In this context, the jurisdiction and legal responsibility for these persons lie exclusively with the competent foreign authorities, by virtue of international agreements signed and in accordance with the principles of sovereignty and international cooperation in criminal matters. In this regard, the actions attributable to the Salvadoran State are limited to its sovereignty and territorial jurisdiction, and therefore it cannot be held responsible for the failure to observe the principle of non-refoulement with respect to the persons mentioned.
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Pens1566 said:
I could see this never getting to trial due to prosecutorial misconduct.
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Well - I lean on the side they have no real evidence as the actual person DOJ ordered to prosecute him resigned when he realize this was a brain dead political stunt.

Of course the Trump administration doesn't give a fuck about 'justice' and they will probably end up sending this dude to Sudan when the judge releases him on bail.
 
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Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social)

HAPPENING NOW: Lawyers for Kilmar Abrego Garcia are back in court following yesterday’s wild evidentiary hearing. The parties have re-convened for oral argument on Abrego’s motion to be returned to Maryland if he’s released from criminal custody in TN next week. Follow along ⬇️ 🧵
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Seeing the current play-by-play in Judge Xinis's court - I'm surprised she hasn't blown a gasket at the DOJ attorneys and the constant bullshit games they're trying to play. But she's certainly giving them enough rope to thoroughly hang themselves.
 
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Brainonska511 said:
bsky.app

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social)

HAPPENING NOW: Lawyers for Kilmar Abrego Garcia are back in court following yesterday’s wild evidentiary hearing. The parties have re-convened for oral argument on Abrego’s motion to be returned to Maryland if he’s released from criminal custody in TN next week. Follow along ⬇️ 🧵
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Seeing the current play-by-play in Judge Xinis's court - I'm surprised she hasn't blown a gasket at the DOJ attorneys and the constant bullshit games they're trying to play. But she's certainly giving them enough rope to thoroughly hang themselves.
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The lot of them (doj attorneys) should be found in contempt and jailed indefinitely in sudan.
 
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