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brycejones

Lifer
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You're the one abusing children by driving their fears of unlikely events.
I'll take the Constitution thank you.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "

Guy who has fantasies of grenading women and children in tunnels accuses others of child abuse?
 

purbeast0

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It's unreal to me that people don't think a "law" that was made 200+ years ago can't be changed "just because" it is in the constitution.

Just think about how much times have changed in that 200 years.

Good thing they did not put speed limits in the constitution. I'd probably have a 4 hour commute.
 
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Watched recent Dave Chapelle on Netflix he had a bit about whites and guns. Not a direct quote as going off memory here: “There is an important election coming up and all us African Americans need to get out there and register, to purchase a legal firearm. Nothing will get white people to change the laws faster”
 

thilanliyan

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Watched recent Dave Chapelle on Netflix he had a bit about whites and guns. Not a direct quote as going off memory here: “There is an important election coming up and all us African Americans need to get out there and register, to purchase a legal firearm. Nothing will get white people to change the laws faster”
Hahaha, saw that bit. It would probably work too lol
 
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K1052

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It's unreal to me that people don't think a "law" that was made 200+ years ago can't be changed "just because" it is in the constitution.

Just think about how much times have changed in that 200 years.

Good thing they did not put speed limits in the constitution. I'd probably have a 4 hour commute.

Even a conservative SCOTUS seems open to considerable restrictions on firearms after Heller. Just screaming "But muh 2nd Amendment!" isn't really an effective argument to not changing existing laws about who can own firearms, what firearms are sold, how firearms are sold, and how the government can regulate said firearms.

The GOP position is to never give an inch but I think that will eventually backfire once they are pushed out of power again and bunch of much more restrictive firearms laws are likely to pass that they could have moderated through negotiation.

Also we all know Trump won't do jack shit because that's his default mode.
 

obidamnkenobi

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Watched recent Dave Chapelle on Netflix he had a bit about whites and guns. Not a direct quote as going off memory here: “There is an important election coming up and all us African Americans need to get out there and register, to purchase a legal firearm. Nothing will get white people to change the laws faster”
Wasn't that basically how some (minor) gun control was instituted in the 50s-60s? After the black panthers and other civil rights groups (i.e. black people) started to arm themselves?
 
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ecogen

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Wasn't that basically how some (minor) gun control was instituted in the 50s-60s? After the black panthers and other civil rights groups started to arm themselves?

California, during Reagan's governorship is the instance I know of, there might be more.
 

zinfamous

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and NO, you don't have a Constitutional right to live without fear.

"pursuit of happiness" has been challenged relatively successfully in the past, w/ SCOTUS.

seems to be that your "right" to terrorize babies and immigrants by your mere presence and threats to grenade them is a direct conflict of their right to pursue happiness in life, wouldn't you agree? I think that careful consideration of the actual US Constitution (the real one--not the fantasy one in your broken asshole brain) would reveal that you live far outside constitutional protections...because, you see: you are a bloodthirsty, fascist asshole.
 
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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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You're the one abusing children by driving their fears of unlikely events.
I'll take the Constitution thank you.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "
Wow!! This is a first -- this dude was double TRIGGERED!! TRIGGERED!!!
 
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It is people like you who hold constitution up in defense of not doing anything to halt these kilolings!
Your crowd accuse those who want something done of being the ones who instill fear in children when a chile is smart enough to put one plus one together.....I pity you!!
As Sandorski stated --
It is unreasonable to fear your Armed neighbour just because other peoples Armed Neighbours keep shooting people. It is unreasonable to spend Tax $ on Mental Health. It is unreasonable to test the Fitness of a person to own a firearm. It is unreasonable to do anything, Freedom can not exist in a Society where mass shootings are not common place.
Stop being so unreasonable!

Stand behind the Constitution like some freaking coward and continue to do nothing about gun violence in America!!
It is a sad day when a person is told - I am sorry that you lost your child, but the constitution says this person had a right to have that weapon and the Constitution trumps your right to have a living breathing child!!1
I don`t want all guns to be confiscated -- something needs to be done and it losers like you that are preventing that from happening!! Carry on Comrade!!
You can keep on abusing children by instilling the faux fear and outrage about statistically unlikely school shootings if you want to, but don't pretend it's anything except political grandstanding.
 
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"pursuit of happiness" has been challenged relatively successfully in the past, w/ SCOTUS.

seems to be that your "right" to terrorize babies and immigrants by your mere presence and threats to grenade them is a direct conflict of their right to pursue happiness in life, wouldn't you agree? I think that careful consideration of the actual US Constitution (the real one--not the fantasy one in your broken asshole brain) would reveal that you live far outside constitutional protections...because, you see: you are a bloodthirsty, fascist asshole.
You are a fucking leftwing communist asshole and a liar. Whoopee do. That and $5.00 will get me a coffee at Starbucks.
 

deathBOB

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You're the one abusing children by driving their fears of unlikely events.
I'll take the Constitution thank you.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "

What militia are you in?
 

Denly

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Don't blame guns because children are indoctrinated to unreasonable fear. There's a far, far, far, far, far, far greater chance they'll be killed in a medical error from their Doctors or nurses in hospitals than they'll ever be injured with a firearm. (250,000 a year. Fear the Doctors!) Maybe we can start throwing some of them in jail.
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/ar...-250-000-a-year-but-problem-not-being-tracked

and NO, you don't have a Constitutional right to live without fear.

In Alt univ 1. everything same as the earth we know but without Doc and Nurses. In Alt univ 2. everthing same as the earth we know but without guns.

Which place is more likely you will die young?

Or

How many people Doc/Nurses save everyday and how many people saved everyday because his/she has gun(s).
 
Jul 9, 2009
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What militia are you in?

This one.


"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves. They include all men capable of bearing arms. To preserve liberty is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike how to use them. "

Thomas Jefferson
 
Jul 9, 2009
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In Alt univ 1. everything same as the earth we know but without Doc and Nurses. In Alt univ 2. everthing same as the earth we know but without guns.

Which place is more likely you will die young?

Or

How many people Doc/Nurses save everyday and how many people saved everyday because his/she has gun(s).
Statistically you are far more likely to die young at the hands of incompetent Doctors, nurses and hospital workers through medical error.
 

HomerJS

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Statistically you are far more likely to die young at the hands of incompetent Doctors, nurses and hospital workers through medical error.
Statistically you are far more likely to die from shooting yourself in the head. Doubt me look it up yourself.
 

Paratus

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Statistically you are far more likely to die from shooting yourself in the head. Doubt me look it up yourself.
Those kids gotta be more careful.
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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This one.


"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves. They include all men capable of bearing arms. To preserve liberty is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike how to use them. "

Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson did not say that.