Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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MrSquished

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If only we had a candidate right now that can go out there and tirelessly fight against Trump amid this chaos, with competent speaking skills, that didn't look like the crypt keeper and sound like kermit the frog lives in their throat. Will someone get Joe Biden a goddamn ricola and some cocaine?
 
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Moonbeam

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The circle is complete Moonie, you've become what you hate.
I don't follow your reasoning. I just said that what with Trump being responsible for a million needless Covid deaths there must be many people who would like him dead. How is that hate and not just factual statements? Think of Inigo Montoya.

I might add that it's very conservative to believe people should pay for their crimes.
 
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BoomerD

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Fucking hell, elevated position, 150y out from the target, far enough away that you aren't gonna be easily noticed by silhouette but close enough for an easy kill. Why the fuck wasn't that site manned again?
A better question…how the fuck did he miss? (or was it an intentional miss?)
 
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ivwshane

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I don't see how this can be handwaved away. This is bad for the country. Someone taking shots at a presidential candidate is as ugly as it gets. Especially if Trump was really shot in the ear and has hearing or brain damage. As far as the election goes - this heroizes Trump and probably a worth about ten points in the polls. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Trump try to say Biden and the deep state ordered the shot. Or Trump won't accuse Biden by name and go for a generic “they tried to kill me” and leave it to his supporters to figure out who “they” are.

Any bump in the polls would be minimal, the cake is already baked.

Half the country wouldn’t mind if Trump was dead and the other half is waiting for Biden to die.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Why on earth should we be paying millions of dollars to protect someone who has been campaigning non-stop for over 8 years? If he wants to sow division at his rallies he should have to foot the bill for security.
We always do, as we should; otherwise the post-presidency belongs to the suicidal or the rich, and we don't want that.
 
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Trump is absolutely going to blame his political enemies and probably the press. As far as a message for being elected that’s probably sub optimal.
Yep. He's going to turn his crazy up to 11, the thing that completely turns off voters outside his base.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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A better question…how the fuck did he miss? (or was it an intentional miss?)
There's a difference between a range sharpshooter and someone who's taken a life in a live situation with non-range conditions. Nerves, wind, an opportune turn of the head; he may have just fuckin' missed.
 

ivwshane

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I don't follow your reasoning. I just said that what with Trump being responsible for a million needless Covid deaths there must be many people who would like him dead. How is that hate and not just factual statements? Think of Inigo Montoya.

I might add that it's very conservative to believe people should pay for their crimes.

His world has just been shook, he’s lashing out and possibly fighting the realization that his support of someone who spreads hateful rhetoric has caused a hateful response. Reality is too much for him right now, he could barely handle it before.
 

Indus

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Given that it sounds like it was an AR, probably .223 (minor distinction I know). If we find out later this was a marine sniper or something I'll abdicate that position.

The Pulse LGBT shooting pissed me the fuck off and although I'm not a gun person I did some research into the gun and type of ammo he used as there were 50+ dead.

Came to the conclusion a 7.62 hits like a freight train vs a 5.56 that hits like a volkswagen.
 
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ivwshane

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One of the aspects of free speech that we may want to lock down.

True but how. You saw the right wing backlash from the Biden admin simply sharing such disinformation. We have to fix the mental state of this country first before we can get back to normal.
 

BoomerD

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Given that it sounds like it was an AR, probably .223 (minor distinction I know). If we find out later this was a marine sniper or something I'll abdicate that position.
There’s a close up of the dead shooter’s face going around. Long hair, shitty whiskers…hippie…or “Antifa. “