Trump orders media blackout at EPA

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nakedfrog

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Folks, everything will be fine, we just need to get to work on building Megamaid... and locating Druidia.
 

agent00f

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It doesn't but it does show he's a busy little bee.

What will be interesting is to see how the Republicans, and I don't mean Trumpites will react. Republicans I know didn't want him to win the nomination and now they're as upset as anyone. There's probably a fair number which will side with Dems on a lot of issues and Dandy Don is probably not going to have the obedience he feels he deserves.

I'm sure the hunt for these Real republicans will end in the same resounding success as the Real racists, Real intellectuals, and Real americans.
 

dank69

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Good. This is what America wants. Hopefully he puts all the rust belt coal miners back to work and they all die by age 40 of black lung.
 
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Commodus

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What's horrible is that the Badlands National Park tweeted out (and then deleted) climate change facts in protest of the gag order. Yes, providing scientific knowledge is an act of defiance in the Trump era.
 
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What's horrible is that the Badlands National Park tweeted out (and then deleted) climate change facts in protest of the gag order. Yes, providing scientific knowledge is an act of defiance in the Trump era.
Anything that challenges Donald J Trump's impenetrable bubble with which he views reality through is an anathema to the administration.
 

Blackjack200

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Good. This is what America wants. Hopefully he puts all the rust belt coal miners back to work and they all die by age 40 of black lung.

He's breaking things that don't go back together again. I'm too distraught for schadenfreude, but yeah, fuck anyone that voted for this clown. I'm so beyond it at this point. Only 1 senator voted against each of Trump's cabinet picks. Not even Sanders. That's after three and a half million people marched on Saturday, they just did his bidding anyway.

Rhetorical question, what comes after peaceful protests utterly fail?
 
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IronWing

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The gag order sucks but I'm pretty sure he is on solid legal grounds for issuing it. His restrictions on contracts, grants, and task orders might run afoul of appropriations law if it goes on to the point where the EPA can't spend the money as directed by the end of the fiscal year (or in accordance with the continuing resolution, in this case). I'm sure Congress will back him up with an adjusted appropriation to keep him legal if it looks like a breach.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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He's breaking things that don't go back together again. I'm too distraught for schadenfreude, but yeah, fuck anyone that voted for this clown. I'm so beyond it at this point. Only 1 senator voted against each of Trump's cabinet picks. Not even Sanders. That's after three and a half million people marched on Saturday, they just did his bidding anyway.

Rhetorical question, what comes after peaceful protests utterly fail?

Non rhetorical answer? Take the hate out on Trump supporters. If one is happy to see others die by age 40 because of politics then why stop there? Teach them to suffer and fear. Seems hate isn't a one way street.
 
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dank69

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Non rhetorical answer? Take the hate out on Trump supporters. If one is happy to see others die by age 40 because of politics then why stop there? Teach them to suffer and fear. Seems hate isn't a one way street.
Democrats bailed everyone out last time Republicans trashed the economy and it took less than 2 years for everyone to forget what happened. Fuck everybody.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Democrats bailed everyone out last time Republicans trashed the economy and it took less than 2 years for everyone to forget what happened. Fuck everybody.

I appreciate your honesty. Open hatred is something I've seen enough to understand.
 

1sikbITCH

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dank69

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I appreciate your honesty. Open hatred is something I've seen enough to understand.
I fought the fight, did my best to try to save people from themselves for no personal gain and was rewarded with nothing but disdain from those same people. People who now are going to waste the last of their brain power convincing themselves and others that Trump is doing good things. Fuck. Them. All.
 
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Jhhnn

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Prohibiting new task orders and work assignments from being issued to contractors may impact ongoing cleanups and monitoring at superfund sites. I say "may" instead of "will" because I not in that field anymore. Back when I was, EPA would sign a contract for a complete cleanup but dole out the money under the contract through a series of task orders. It provided flexibility to adjust work to what was found during site cleanups. Shutting down the issuing of task orders can effectively shut down a project. Contractors will then be able to file claims for demob/remob costs. This is not a freebie for the government.

Just stop it. Stop making sense.

The Donald is making a statement. It's complete gibberish, but most of us expect that.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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About EPA folks using burner phones & Tor to post agency information rather than official channels now denied them.

Considering the ridiculous constraints in a now near-China situation I think it a damn good idea for these employees to make themselves as secure from intrusion as possible. So using Tor or VPN and discussing things which aren't classified? I've no problem with that especially with the intrusive systems foisted on us over the last two decades.
 

agent00f

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Non rhetorical answer? Take the hate out on Trump supporters. If one is happy to see others die by age 40 because of politics then why stop there? Teach them to suffer and fear. Seems hate isn't a one way street.

Yeah, it's somehow all the leftards fault that your peers discover for themselves what it actually means for personal choices to have consequences. Just as it's the libtards responsible for Trump, and never the shitheads who voted for him, and so on. But to your credit at least it's not low status browns for you.
 
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Vic

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So his first week in, and Trump is already putting 16,000 government employees and who-knows-how-many contractors out of work?
 
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Vic

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Non rhetorical answer? Take the hate out on Trump supporters. If one is happy to see others die by age 40 because of politics then why stop there? Teach them to suffer and fear. Seems hate isn't a one way street.

Sometime during the election, I saw this picture of prominent wealthy Trump supporters wearing t-shirts that said, "Fuck your feelings," and my first thought was, don't they know that sentiment can work both ways? Now I'm starting to think that they did know.
 
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Jhhnn

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Considering the ridiculous constraints in a now near-China situation I think it a damn good idea for these employees to make themselves as secure from intrusion as possible. So using Tor or VPN and discussing things which aren't classified? I've no problem with that especially with the intrusive systems foisted on us over the last two decades.

The suggestion wasn't that they discuss but rather publish anonymously. I point out that such will merely be dismissed by the Trump Admin as fake news. It can't achieve the same credibility as official publication by the EPA or any other federal agency.

Post-truth, baby, and all that goes with it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Sometime during the election, I saw this picture of prominent wealthy Trump supporters wearing t-shirts that said, "Fuck your feelings," and my first thought was, don't they know that sentiment can work both ways? Now I'm starting to think that they did know.

We're stark raving mad now. Few have any higher sense of right but boast about what they used to be. Lesser sons of greater sires.
 
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Blackjack200

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Non rhetorical answer? Take the hate out on Trump supporters. If one is happy to see others die by age 40 because of politics then why stop there? Teach them to suffer and fear. Seems hate isn't a one way street.

The last time we beat Nazis, we did it by loving them, right?