Trump is running a survey on the media!

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Grooveriding

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Okay. So is your stance that pissgate is real?

The polls that showed Hillary with a 98% chance of winning were totally legit?

(Sure, maybe it was just an honest mistake and not a malicious fake poll to pressure Trump voters to just stay home (not). Even in that fantasy case, why would you EVER trust anything else reported by that source, when they can get the polls so horribly wrong?)

Pewdiepie is really a nazi?

(If you don't know who he is, then you really shouldn't be commenting on how trustworthy the news is, as you just revealed that you don't really pay attention to the news at all.)

You understand polling is done as a prediction of potential results, it is not seeing the future.

If you have a poll showing 98% for Hillary, feel free to post it and the date it was originally posted on. I have no difficulty believing a poll at some point could have shown a 98% chance for her to win against him. If it was in the few weeks leading up to the election I'd think it was a bad poll.

I only looked at 538 and he in general always had a 20-25% chance, tightening to 30% near the election. You're not one these Trump devotees who looks at the polls as proof the media was biased, are you ? You understand a non 0% chance is a chance at winning, don't you ? It's perfectly reasonable for a candidate to have a sub 30% chance and actually win. Especially given an electoral system that allows a candidate to win with a minority of the votes.

You've got something more as the basis for your fake news religion, right ? Your belief system is not just based on polls not showing Trump as the frontrunner is it ? It's got to be more than that and CNN reporting on the Russian dossier, some of which has now been verified by multiple news outlets ? Please, there has got to be more than that to facilitate a belief system that the MSM outlets are fake news.

As far as the youtuber. I have no idea why you're so riled up about a youtuber that pre-teens watch. I know his name, I have no idea why you're even mentioning him though ?! Is this some other crazy thing that came out of Trump's mouth I missed ?
 

MrSquished

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Pewdiepie is really a nazi?

(If you don't know who he is, then you really shouldn't be commenting on how trustworthy the news is, as you just revealed that you don't really pay attention to the news at all.)

You think a barometer of reading the news is clicking on a You Tube video stars latest news links?

You are a serious fucking idiot of the first order.
 

HTFOff

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A survey LUL.

Just use the justice dept. to spy and wiretap political opponents.

Git gud Donald.
 
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And chippy makes a swing for the fences........and misses bigly!

There's absolutely no mention of pissgate, or any other details of that sort, in that report.

But, please, point out the para. and line in that report that says what isn't there......please.
Well. He posted a story that explicitly states they didn't report on it. In his circular logic perhaps that then qualifies as reporting it? Reporting it without ever reporting it? I don't know I don't do meth.
 

jman19

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Again, you are missing my point and building up a straw man. I never said all media should be abolished.

I personally read stories from multiple sources, as you can usually tell what is being left out and what truths are being stretched when you see the same story from multiple perspectives. The problem is when you limit yourself to select group of "news organizations" that all slant and lie the same way.

You're the one who made the strawman - that media is infallible or unbiased by pointing out places you think "they" have erred. No one reasonable says otherwise. Trump is outright waging a war on media.
 

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There is a difference between hating what you fear, and only fearing what you fear. A big difference. Maybe all the difference in the world.
 

Meghan54

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Well. He posted a story that explicitly states they didn't report on it. In his circular logic perhaps that then qualifies as reporting it? Reporting it without ever reporting it? I don't know I don't do meth.

And I see he's run off like the little coward that he is...delusional, (self-imposed) ignorance.
 

disappoint

Lifer
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Trump is actually evil

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agent00f

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Classic response.

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A little bit of name-calling and some ad hominem. This is why Hillary lost. Trump's points are never actually refuted, in debates or by the media, it's just pathetic bottom 3 tier responses all around.

It's simply a fact that you lack the basic integrity to acknowledge much less address the abundance of refutations above. It's just what you are, not something likely to change. Don't worry though, liberals like @Jhhnn will always believe you're just being tricked by conservatism, and try to reason you out of it.
 

agent00f

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"Evil" is generally understood as lack of humanist ideals, which Trump is never accused of possessing. Case in point he'll obviously do whatever it takes to pretend the media are the Real liars. It's also revealing of the character of this lackeys who'll do whatever it takes to protect their fuhrer.

Also just fyi that using a larger font is not dissimilar to ALL CAPS typical of blustering conservatives.
 

Meghan54

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Okay. So when I post the link, you will ban yourself from the politics and news forum for a month. If I can't find a link, then I'll ban myself. Fair bet?

Not going to waste my time otherwise.



OK, so you've banned yourself, right? Guess that's why you've slunk off like a sneak thief, hopefully to never be heard from again.

BTW...your link proved nothing you claimed.

And about pewdiepie...no, not knowing that nationalist/supremacist doesn't mean one doesn't get the "proper" news, it just means one doesn't keep up with racists/white supremacists/etc. As a point, pewdiepie makes it a "point" to demonstrate he wasn't using a Nazi salute by replicating his "pointing" gesture in that lame youtube video you posted. Unfortunately, outside Nazis, white supremacists, and the like, no one points out anything with all their fingers extended outward....people tend to point with their index finger extended and all other fingers curled back to the hand. What pewdiepie showed WAS a Nazi salute.
 
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Thump553

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I went through the so-called survey. It's clearly designed to accomplish two purposes: (1) identify potential supporters-that's why they ask for name, zipcode and email and (2) raise funds, in this case for Trump's CREEP.

I see three or four such "polls" every day, usually from Democrats because I rarely frequent the den of snakes that is the GOP. Nothing unusual about this at all-except that the questions were so biased and leading they were laughable. Rather heavy handed.

Nothing really to be outraged about.
 

NostaSeronx

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"The masses have spoken.... They are tired of lying crooked fake news, very bad news... I am signing an executive order to close down all the news... very good... see you in court Crooked Killary Fake News Network."
// someone fix this, my brain hurts.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Lol and to ensure it was completely unbiased they only sent it out to Trump supporters.

Heh perhaps. I filled it out and gave civil and hopefully constructive answers. No doubt it will be dismissed but it was a potential opportunity to communicate so I took it.
 

agent00f

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I went through the so-called survey. It's clearly designed to accomplish two purposes: (1) identify potential supporters-that's why they ask for name, zipcode and email and (2) raise funds, in this case for Trump's CREEP.

I see three or four such "polls" every day, usually from Democrats because I rarely frequent the den of snakes that is the GOP. Nothing unusual about this at all-except that the questions were so biased and leading they were laughable. Rather heavy handed.

Nothing really to be outraged about.

Pretty sure those surveys aren't this kind of bullshit from the president.
 
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Heh perhaps. I filled it out and gave civil and hopefully constructive answers. No doubt it will be dismissed but it was a potential opportunity to communicate so I took it.
Whole thing seems like an exercise in confirmation bias. Who do my supporters like? Ok that's who I will be nice to.

Apparently he sent the same thing out in August. About the same time he stopped going on any news program that wasn't Fox.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Whole thing seems like an exercise in confirmation bias. Who do my supporters like? Ok that's who I will be nice to.

Apparently he sent the same thing out in August. About the same time he stopped going on any news program that wasn't Fox.

It was pathetically biased and oh that grammar! I can suck sometimes but it seemed the poll was constructed to be confusing.