Trump Dr. Press Conference - Does anyone have a link to a similar one for Obama?

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pcgeek11

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I like how he calls one of the top 20 most prominent and influential cardiologists in the country, leader of one of the largest healthcare organizations in the country, and lead author on one of the most widespread cardiologist textbooks in existence "full of crap" in regards to what is high cholesterol and what isn't.

Look it up. The information is freely available.
 

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Y'see, Slow, disputes over Obama's health didn't come up because he was relatively young, ate healthily, stayed active and was clearly intelligent.

Trump is in his 70s, obese, eats McDonald's all the time, drinks Diet Coke like it's going out of style, only gets a few hours of sleep each day and uses a vocabulary that makes some 10-year-olds seem erudite. Someone who claims to be the healthiest President ever and does that? They're lying. And if you think it's somehow wrong to challenge the President on that, especially when he has a long, proven history of lying, that's pretty sad.
Is there a President that didn't ever lie?? I thought that was a requirement to enter politics. I think everyone has lied at some point.
 

pcgeek11

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It's ok, you're allowed to make a fool of yourself on the interwebs.

How so?

Are you saying that the Cholesterol guidelines are not available on the internet? Are you saying that they are false?

LDL cholesterol levels should be less than 100 mg/dL. Levels of 100 to 129 mg/dL are acceptable for people with no health issues but may be of more concern for those with heart disease or heart disease risk factors. A reading of 130 to 159 mg/dL is borderline high and 160 to 189 mg/dL is high. A reading of 190 mg/dL or higher is considered very high.

https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/levels-by-age

https://medlineplus.gov/magazine/issues/summer12/articles/summer12pg6-7.html

https://www.cholesterolmenu.com/cholesterol-levels-chart/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315900.php#Healthy levels for different age groups
 
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How so?

Are you saying that the Cholesterol guidelines are not available on the internet? Are you saying that they are false?

LDL cholesterol levels should be less than 100 mg/dL. Levels of 100 to 129 mg/dL are acceptable for people with no health issues but may be of more concern for those with heart disease or heart disease risk factors. A reading of 130 to 159 mg/dL is borderline high and 160 to 189 mg/dL is high. A reading of 190 mg/dL or higher is considered very high.

https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/levels-by-age

https://medlineplus.gov/magazine/issues/summer12/articles/summer12pg6-7.html

https://www.cholesterolmenu.com/cholesterol-levels-chart/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315900.php#Healthy levels for different age groups

I'll just quote Sunburn with extra bolding) in answer:

"I like how he calls one of the top 20 most prominent and influential cardiologists in the country, leader of one of the largest healthcare organizations in the country, and lead author on one of the most widespread cardiologist textbooks in existence "full of crap" in regards to what is high cholesterol and what isn't."

But it's ok, you know how to google.
 

dank69

Lifer
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How so?

Are you saying that the Cholesterol guidelines are not available on the internet? Are you saying that they are false?

LDL cholesterol levels should be less than 100 mg/dL. Levels of 100 to 129 mg/dL are acceptable for people with no health issues but may be of more concern for those with heart disease or heart disease risk factors. A reading of 130 to 159 mg/dL is borderline high and 160 to 189 mg/dL is high. A reading of 190 mg/dL or higher is considered very high.

https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/levels-by-age

https://medlineplus.gov/magazine/issues/summer12/articles/summer12pg6-7.html

https://www.cholesterolmenu.com/cholesterol-levels-chart/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/315900.php#Healthy levels for different age groups
The part you are forgetting is that he is still borderline high even after taking the Crestor. So if the claim in this thread that that dose should reduce cholesterol by 30-50% then best case scenario without the drug his cholesterol is 200. Worst case it is 280.
 
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pcgeek11

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I'll just quote Sunburn with extra bolding) in answer:

"I like how he calls one of the top 20 most prominent and influential cardiologists in the country, leader of one of the largest healthcare organizations in the country, and lead author on one of the most widespread cardiologist textbooks in existence "full of crap" in regards to what is high cholesterol and what isn't."

But it's ok, you know how to google.

Go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and ignore the facts. Or post some documented evidence to support your BS.
I know you won't.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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The part you are forgetting is that he is still borderline high even after taking the Crestor. So if the claim in this thread that that dose should reduce cholesterol by 30-50% then best case scenario without the drug his cholesterol is 200. Worst case it is 280.

I'm not forgetting anything. I stated it was Borderline High and he is taking 10 mg of Crestor. Which is the next to lowest dose available... I stated all of this earlier.

What it would be "without the drug"s is speculation. He is on the drug and the numbers are what they are.
 
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Go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and ignore the facts. Or post some documented evidence to support your BS.
I know you won't.

This is who you are 'debating' : "one of the top 20 most prominent and influential cardiologists in the country, leader of one of the largest healthcare organizations in the country, and lead author on one of the most widespread cardiologist textbooks in existence"

not me. And based on the information that various folks have provided you're losing the debate badly.

But hey, as I said, you still have google. Have fun.
 

dank69

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I'm not forgetting anything. I stated it was Borderline High and he is taking 10 mg of Crestor. Which is the next to lowest dose available... I stated all of this earlier.

What it would be "without the drug"s is speculation. He is on the drug and the numbers are what they are.
Okay, not forgetting then, ignoring.
 

TheVrolok

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I'm not forgetting anything. I stated it was Borderline High and he is taking 10 mg of Crestor. Which is the next to lowest dose available... I stated all of this earlier.

What it would be "without the drug"s is speculation. He is on the drug and the numbers are what they are.
"Next to the lowest dose available" of Crestor is still consider "moderate intensity therapy." 20mg is considered "high intensity." Sure, his exact unmanaged LDL is speculative, but it is most certainly "awful." (technical term).

I find his HDL being that high somewhat suspect and it doesn't quite jive, but, some people do just have good genes so it's certainly not impossible. Taking his numbers at face value, his 10 year ASCVD risk is 16.7% (risk of having stroke or heart attack in the next 10 years with that profile). Take that for what it is.

I actually read the entire letter for Dr Jackson just now and do find it somewhat odd that they performed a LDCT for lung cancer screening. It simply isn't indicated at all. So either he has risks that were not disclosed or it was done without indication (that certainly isn't a rarity in medicine). His stress test was done without clear indication either based on his report. Shrug

I know you're ignorant here, and that's not your fault or even a problem. However, don't pretend it isn't the case, that's when things get awkward.

Also, please don't link to such weak websites as actually evidence. None of those articles are written by actual content experts, expect for perhaps the .gov and that was written in 2012. Cholesterol guidelines have changed since then fairly significantly.
 
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pcgeek11

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This is who you are 'debating' : "one of the top 20 most prominent and influential cardiologists in the country, leader of one of the largest healthcare organizations in the country, and lead author on one of the most widespread cardiologist textbooks in existence"

not me. And based on the information that various folks have provided you're losing the debate badly.


But hey, as I said, you still have google. Have fun.


OK so you have nothing. Got it.