Discussion Trump and Zelensky in face to face argument

[SteveGrabowski]

Your original proposal is insane, and one of the fastest, easiest ways to get martial law. You don't want that, I assure you. Everyone loses then.
Wait for Project 2025 to start hurting MAGA, they will shed at least some of their supporters--remember, that's how these people work; once it affects THEM personally, then they can understand an issue.

You're kidding right? Trump will blame Biden and Obama and his base will eat that shit up. Ukraine will surely be one of the scapegoats for why Medicaid had to be nearly eliminated.

 

[ivwshane]

No idea what you're on about, but figured I'd respond since you went to the trouble of calling me out.

Quoted For Historic reasons...

So you want to kill people now?

On a political forum in a thread discussing a potential turning point in American history, you two couldn’t even muster up a comment about it. Telling.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

so... what now

Halt aid to Ukraine. Lift sanctions on Russia.
Collect diddy's remaining baby oil supply and jack off Putin.

War with the EU. War with Canada. And this fucking piece of shit will launch nukes. A lot of us are going to be dead in five years.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Just when you think our government can’t go any lower.

Real Americans stand with Europe and Ukraine. I for one am proud to build weapons that turn Russians into pink mist and their equipment into scrap. Really hope we can keep getting them over there or the work is pointless.

I don't blame the Russians for having a piece of shit ruler. He stole their nation too like the nazi has ours.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I dont get it.

It sounded like a deal was reached, paper ready to be signed ... and then what? Vance cocked it up? Why did Zelensky take the bait? My between the lines take on it is that the deal was so bad that Zelensky was ready to blow it up.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

It's not just the expense. Trump and Company are systematically trying to destroy America, destroy NATO, spit in the faces of our allies. Simple to say he's a criminal. Not more difficult to understand that he's a sociopath. You've got to be goddam stupid, however, failing to recognize that he's an instrument of Russia, traitor to America, Traitor to the human race.

Drugs and booze won't make me feel better.

He's recreating the takeover of Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union and we're all going to end just as fucked as the Russian people were in the 90s.

 

[ivwshane]

He's recreating the takeover of Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union and we're all going to end just as fucked as the Russian people were in the 90s.

Putin does have that vendetta. I need to read up on Russian history to see how it went down.

 

[repoman0]

I don't blame the Russians for having a piece of shit ruler. He stole their nation too like the nazi has ours.

I don’t either. I blame them for raping, murdering and torturing civilians and soldiers alike. The fewer of them, the better off the world. Maybe someday people will say that about Americans too if they aren’t already.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Media criticized what Zelensky wore to see Trump. The right wing media has devolved for Russian state media. Left wing media as gone full coward.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5170029-conservative-commentator-questions-zelensky-over-attire-why-dont-you-wear-a-suit/

There is no left wing media in the US and hasn't been a shred of it in nearly a century.

 

[purbeast0]

I will say, it has been a breath of fresh air to see some Trump supporters come out and actually say what a disgrace he was yesterday. This is like the first time I can remember this happening. Sure there are the usual people bending the knee, but seeing some people with large followings call it out is also good to see.

 

[DZero]

War with the EU. War with Canada. And this fucking piece of shit will launch nukes. A lot of us are going to be dead in five years.

Don't be surprised if a coup happens before it's real. The issue? without nukes (except pointing to Russia and China), the civil war is a sure thing.

 

[ivwshane]

I will say, it has been a breath of fresh air to see some Trump supporters come out and actually say what a disgrace he was yesterday. This is like the first time I can remember this happening. Sure there are the usual people bending the knee, but seeing some people with large followings call it out is also good to see.

I haven’t seen a single one. Who are you talking about?

 

[eelw]

Don't be surprised if a coup happens before it's real. The issue? without nukes (except pointing to Russia and China), the civil war is a sure thing.

Yeah SS is going to be very busy. Assassination attempts will be incoming

 

[Jaskalas]

wrong.. China took South America long time ago, they are in the Ecuador jungle drilling and mining.

I am sensing a view based on the former, peaceful, world order. The one Trump destroyed. Something that has devoured North America will not stop just because there are some financial investments. At best a nation may continue to exist as a vassal. But I digress, it is difficult to foresee what happens after the war with Mexico. Perhaps there will be enough resistance to topple the MAGA Nazis. Then again, that's not typically how these things go. The future of the continent will be determined by how the purge of the United States ends. Whether MAGA wins or loses.

 

[cytg111]

This makes sense

 

[K1052]

I haven’t seen a single one. Who are you talking about?

I pop into r/conservative every once in a while and this is actually something a decent percentage of them are really unhappy with. Eagerly letting Putin cuck you in return for nothing apparently does not apparently look all that strong to some of them.

 

[Pens1566]

I pop into r/conservative every once in a while and this is actually something a decent percentage of them are really unhappy with. Eagerly letting Putin cuck you in return for nothing apparently does not apparently look all that strong to some of them.

Eh, I think that's likely just their "natural" reaction which will quickly become only a private response. At least once the cult talking points come out.

 

[ivwshane]

I pop into r/conservative every once in a while and this is actually something a decent percentage of them are really unhappy with. Eagerly letting Putin cuck you in return for nothing apparently does not apparently look all that strong to some of them.

Are these names/posters who you recognize or have a long history of supporting Trump?

 

[K1052]

Are these names/posters who you recognize or have a long history of supporting Trump?

Some of them if I click back through their posts. Right wing info bubble is pretty stout but sorta hard to easily convert this one into "Trump strong".

 

[Racan]

I will say, it has been a breath of fresh air to see some Trump supporters come out and actually say what a disgrace he was yesterday. This is like the first time I can remember this happening. Sure there are the usual people bending the knee, but seeing some people with large followings call it out is also good to see.

But would most of them still vote for him if they had known then what they know now? I bet they would.

 

[Amused]

He in fucking jail for treason. Yeah, totally falling apart. MAGAts have zero fucking critical thinking skills.

 

[dlerious]

that's true? lol

makes sense. what a cum nozzle

yep

In Trump meeting with Zelenskyy, MTG’s boyfriend gets a smackdown

"Maybe something better."

www.nj.com

 

[DZero]

I pop into r/conservative every once in a while and this is actually something a decent percentage of them are really unhappy with. Eagerly letting Putin cuck you in return for nothing apparently does not apparently look all that strong to some of them.

That's because even conservative people realized who is Trump in fact. They became the joke of the world and most of them are repentful.

Funny story only the psychos or the ones who directly benefit from Putin are happy.

 

[zinfamous]

Why should I be ashamed? I'm not his daddy, nor am I responsible for his actions, and I never expected I'd agree with everything he does. Grow up.

serious question: what's it like going through your entire life being such an unrepentant, willing cuck?

 

[purbeast0]

I haven’t seen a single one. Who are you talking about?

Just random twitter posts with big followings.

Dave Portnoy commented about it being like a Bravo show, but didn't really take a side, but based on a post he made a day or two ago, IMO he's basically saying it was like a Bravo reality tv show for Trump/Vance.

He has like 3.5 million followers.

EDIT:

This is the post I'm referring to:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895544205340275054

And this is the one from a few days ago that I'm referring to:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895227410649395339