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ivwshane

Lifer
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That is what is funny. He didn't give up anything. He met with him and cancelled a military training exercise.

Big deal huh?

Wait, so he didn't give up anything or he cancelled military exercises? Which is it?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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I guess the part you seem to be missing is that a NEW submarine is being built.

But reading comprehension isn't your thing, now is it?

New submarine rumor. Still the same old missile which he probably doesn't have a small enough warhead to put on it anyway, yet. That is why we need to deal with this now instead of allowing it to progress as had been the policy of past admins.

" North Korea is thought to be developing a new submarine capable of launching nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, a senior South Korean lawmaker said, signaling an increased threat to U.S. and allied forces while raising doubts about the regime’s pledges to disarm."
 

cytg111

Lifer
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Old news.


" North Korea’s submarine-launched ballistic missile program was first publicized in 2014. North Korea is believed to have undertaken four to six test launches of its SLBM model known as the KN 11. The test firing of a missile in 2016 that traveled 300 miles signaled that the program was progressing."
Yes you are old news.
It says last week dumbass, as indication that Kim is not stepping off... But you know this right and you are about to make this about Obama.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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New submarine rumor. Still the same old missile which he probably doesn't have a small enough warhead to put on it anyway, yet. That is why we need to deal with this now instead of allowing it to progress as had been the policy of past admins.

" North Korea is thought to be developing a new submarine capable of launching nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, a senior South Korean lawmaker said, signaling an increased threat to U.S. and allied forces while raising doubts about the regime’s pledges to disarm."

And there it was. But Obama. How super beta and low T of you. To be expected.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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New submarine rumor. Still the same old missile which he probably doesn't have a small enough warhead to put on it anyway, yet. That is why we need to deal with this now instead of allowing it to progress as had been the policy of past admins.

" North Korea is thought to be developing a new submarine capable of launching nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, a senior South Korean lawmaker said, signaling an increased threat to U.S. and allied forces while raising doubts about the regime’s pledges to disarm."

I agree which is why I find it odd that you think cancelling exercises that address these threats to be "nothing".
 

pcgeek11

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I agree which is why I find it odd that you think cancelling exercises that address these threats to be "nothing".


These exercises have been done for decades and have accomplished absolutely nothing to stop NK of developing a nuclear weapon. You know it and so does everyone else.
 

pcgeek11

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And there it was. But Obama. How super beta and low T of you. To be expected.

I never mentioned Obama, idiot.

But I did mention in so many words every admin since the Korean War............. Which would include the Obama admin.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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That is what is funny. He didn't give up anything. He met with him and cancelled a military training exercise.

Big deal huh?

Even Fox News admits Trump got dicked, Pompeo was humiliated, and Kim giving nukes peacefully is a delusion.

President Trump made a major concession simply by meeting with Kim, and then by halting joint military exercises between the U.S. and South Korea – a long-sought North Korean goal.

You are in fucking la-la land

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018...g-us-with-three-options-all-them-bad.amp.html
 

ivwshane

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These exercises have been done for decades and have accomplished absolutely nothing to stop NK of developing a nuclear weapon. You know it and so does everyone else.

And previous negotiations with north Korea has accomplished nothing as well, so I'm not sure what your point is.
 

pcgeek11

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pcgeek11

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And previous negotiations with north Korea has accomplished nothing as well, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Previous negotiations? Who else has met with NK Leaders and had a serious attempt at stopping the Nuclear Development?

My point is repeating the same thing over and over has accomplished nothing. A new track is in order and if we need to cancel a military excercise or two in order to maybe get something done it is a good idea.
 

IronWing

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I don't care what Fox News says about it. I never said I felt that N Korea would give up Nucs.

I do not know, neither do you. I'll wait for it to fail before flying the white flag.

Of course you pray for Trumps failure.
Trump waved the white flag already; that's the whole point of this thread.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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Previous negotiations? Who else has met with NK Leaders and had a serious attempt at stopping the Nuclear Development?

My point is repeating the same thing over and over has accomplished nothing. A new track is in order and if we need to cancel a military excercise or two in order to maybe get something done it is a good idea.

Lol! You think meeting with the president of the united states was the deal breaker? Well congrats, that's two things you've now contradicted yourself on as not being a big deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron
 

pcgeek11

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Lol! You think meeting with the president of the united states was the deal breaker? Well congrats, that's two things you've now contradicted yourself on as not being a big deal.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

Where did I say meeting with the President of the US was a deal breaker? It was other posters that said meeting lil Kim was, and gave Kim legitimacy.

I have not contradicted anything. You are trying to misrepresent my posting.
 

ivwshane

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Where did I say meeting with the President of the US was a deal breaker? It was other posters that said meeting lil Kim was, and gave Kim legitimacy.

I have not contradicted anything. You are trying to misrepresent my posting.

Lol ok and the previous negotiations I linked to?
 

cytg111

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Previous negotiations? Who else has met with NK Leaders and had a serious attempt at stopping the Nuclear Development?

My point is repeating the same thing over and over has accomplished nothing. A new track is in order and if we need to cancel a military excercise or two in order to maybe get something done it is a good idea.

LOL .. and ROFLMAO.
I think it is called backchannels?
I do not think it is called "I dont think I have to prepare very much" - and skipping/ignoring intel briefings and everyone else.
And yea, he had to cancel military exercise CAUSE PUTIN TOLD HIM TO.
What up comrade, how those Ruskie lessons coming along?
 

fskimospy

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Previous negotiations? Who else has met with NK Leaders and had a serious attempt at stopping the Nuclear Development?

My point is repeating the same thing over and over has accomplished nothing. A new track is in order and if we need to cancel a military excercise or two in order to maybe get something done it is a good idea.

Uhmmm...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreed_Framework

We tried to warn you.
 

ivwshane

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Trumps approach has been quite different than in the past...

Sure it has. He didn't get any specifics, he gave concessions with nothing in return and north Korea didn't stop, even temporarily, their nuclear program.

Winning!
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Sure it has. He didn't get any specifics, he gave concessions with nothing in return and north Korea didn't stop, even temporarily, their nuclear program.

Winning!

He didn't get any specifics, Yet. It is still very early.

What are the concessions?

He met with Kim. No Big Deal.

We stopped military exercises while talks are taking place. No Big Deal.

What else?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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He didn't get any specifics, Yet. It is still very early.

What are the concessions?

He met with Kim. No Big Deal.

We stopped military exercises while talks are taking place. No Big Deal.

What else?

Lol just because you think they aren't a big deal doesn't make it not a big deal.

And past agreements were specific and north Korea did halt their program, albeit temporarily.

Yeah talks are still in the early stages, that's why your dear leader declared everything is good and people can sleep easy. Meanwhile, pompeo was trying to get specifics and concessions from north Korea to validate trumps claim.

No big deal? Lol! The only thing that's not a big deal are these whole negotiations, they amount to a nothing burger.