Trump Admin Suspending Global Entry Program for NY residents for Dubious Reasons

[Brainonska511]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-officials-threaten-to-expand-retaliation-for-sanctuary-policies-to-more-states-as-ny-residents-are-kicked-out-of-global-entry/2020/02/06/010686c0-48f5-11ea-b4d9-29cc419287eb_story.html?itid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_globalentry244p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

The Trump administration expects to kick “roughly 175,000 New Yorkers” out of Global Entry and other Trusted Traveler Programs by the end of this year, and bar other New Yorkers from joining, in retaliation for a state law that limits immigration agents’ access to the state’s driver’s license data, a senior official said Thursday. The administration also threatened to take action against other states that push to limit immigration agents’ access to state-level data.

The Trump administration is trying to force states to enforce Federal laws using extremely dubious rationale. I'm old enough to remember when conservatives were crying about "states' rights"...

 

[blackangst1]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-officials-threaten-to-expand-retaliation-for-sanctuary-policies-to-more-states-as-ny-residents-are-kicked-out-of-global-entry/2020/02/06/010686c0-48f5-11ea-b4d9-29cc419287eb_story.html?itid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_globalentry244p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

The Trump administration is trying to force states to enforce Federal laws using extremely dubious rationale. I'm old enough to remember when conservatives were crying about "states' rights"...

No,l theyre not.

 

[UNCjigga]

Looks like Virginia may be next—which would suck as I’ll need to renew mine at Dulles in a few years (closest permanent processing office near me.)

 

[Fenixgoon]

No,l theyre not.

if the policy isn't uniformly applied to other states with the same driver's licensing policies (like CA) then yes they very well could be.
Proving it, OTOH, is more difficult.

 

[Jhhnn]

No,l theyre not.

What they're doing is *lying*. They want access to all the records, not just of people in the global entry program. The kind of license given to undocumented people isn't Real ID & is therefore not eligible for global entry in the first place. It's just fucking people over & pandering to the base.

 

[brycejones]

No,l theyre not.

Guess what, you don’t need a driver’s license to qualify in the first place. The whole rational is horseshit within the context of the programs impacted.

 

[fskimospy]

No,l theyre not.

Meh, New York will take them to court and Trump will lose yet again.

 

[JEDIYoda]

No,l theyre not.

You would think after over 18,000 posts -- Blackangst1 would get tired of being a puppet for trump!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Expedited entry programs are a privilege, not a right, predicated by the ability of DHS to quickly identify qualifying citizens based on federally defined criteria.

The state of NY made a sovereign choice. That choice now renders NY forms of identification ineligible for federally managed quick entry programs.

 

[IJTSSG]

Play p[hucktard games, win phucktard prizes.

 

[K1052]

The PA should close Teterboro and make all the privates clear immigration with the little people at EWR. Trump would relent in hours.

 

[Jhhnn]

Expedited entry programs are a privilege, not a right, predicated by the ability of DHS to quickly identify qualifying citizens based on federally defined criteria.

The state of NY made a sovereign choice. That choice now renders NY forms of identification ineligible for federally managed quick entry programs.

So dishonest. Expedited entry is predicated on having a passport in the first place. For that, a person needs Real ID, something undocumented drivers in NYS don't get. You know it's all a lie.

 

[Brainonska511]

So dishonest. Expedited entry is predicated on having a passport in the first place. For that, a person needs Real ID, something undocumented drivers in NYS don't get. You know it's all a lie.

You don't even need a DL.

Also, we're relying on the DMV to keep us safe? LOL

 

[HomerJS]

Expedited entry programs are a privilege, not a right, predicated by the ability of DHS to quickly identify qualifying citizens based on federally defined criteria.

The state of NY made a sovereign choice. That choice now renders NY forms of identification ineligible for federally managed quick entry programs.

I smell an equal protection lawsuit win coming. You cannot take unique vindictive political actions against a state.

 

[Vic]

You don't even need a DL.

Also, we're relying on the DMV to keep us safe? LOL

Because the Republicans want a national ID system and the DMVs are their backdoor way of doing that.

 

[Jhhnn]

You don't even need a DL.

Also, we're relying on the DMV to keep us safe? LOL

The fact remains that undocumented people can't provide the kind of ID needed to get a US passport in the first place. The fact remains that people who already enjoy expedited treatment will lose it thru no fault of their own. It's thuggery & base pandering.

 

[brycejones]

Expedited entry programs are a privilege, not a right, predicated by the ability of DHS to quickly identify qualifying citizens based on federally defined criteria.

The state of NY made a sovereign choice. That choice now renders NY forms of identification ineligible for federally managed quick entry programs.

Pop quiz for you:

1. Is it a program requirement to have a drivers license or state ID to be eligible for global entry?
2. What document do you absolutely have to have to be eligible for global entry?
3. Is a D/L or state ID a requirement to obtain that document?
4. Can you admit you're wrong?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Pop quiz for you:

1. Is it a program requirement to have a drivers license or state ID to be eligible for global entry?

You need a passport and another form of ID, a driver’s license being one of them...assuming you don’t live in New York

2. What document do you absolutely have to have to be eligible for global entry?

Passport

3. Is a D/L or state ID a requirement to obtain that document?

No, but the federal government can exclude driver’s licenses as being eligible, as is now the case for New York

4. Can you admit you're wrong?

Can you admit that you suffer from TDS?

 

[Starbuck1975]

I smell an equal protection lawsuit win coming. You cannot take unique vindictive political actions against a state.

You can if the state takes uniquely sovereign actions that render their identification useless for federal identification purposes.

 

[ShookKnight]

The States Rights fucktards suddenly forgot their fucktardness when weed was legalized.

Neighboring states were crying about how Colorado was making life difficult for them on the weed smoking side of things. So, they ran like little bitches to the Big Ol' Gubnament begging for help and assistance.

States Rights for me to enslave human beings and do all sorts of evil shit.

No States Rights when them thar Liburals wanna do Libural things.

 

[Starbuck1975]

So dishonest. Expedited entry is predicated on having a passport in the first place. For that, a person needs Real ID, something undocumented drivers in NYS don't get. You know it's all a lie.

NY should have thought through the implications of falling out of compliance

 

[hal2kilo]

Looks like Virginia may be next—which would suck as I’ll need to renew mine at Dulles in a few years (closest permanent processing office near me.)

Just get a CONUS passport card. I've used nothing but passports for ID at airports for the last 15 years.

 

[K1052]

Meh, New York will take them to court and Trump will lose yet again.

This is the most likely outcome.

 

[Jhhnn]

You can if the state takes uniquely sovereign actions that render their identification useless for federal identification applications.

By decree, of course, rather than any basis in reality.

 

[dphantom]

From what I have read, NY State is restricting access to the drivers license database so CBP cannot verify eligibility into the Trusted Traveler program. Without that access, even if one has a valid passport, CBP cannot complete its required background check for that person.