Trump’s lawyers argue he is able to commit virtually limitless crime

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BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Congressional Democrats want access to everything so they can decide if someone is doing something illegal. Dems want a carte blanche fishing expedition and are basically telling the Patriot Act to hold their beer.

So...if, when the (R)'s were staunchly in support of "The Patriot Act," and "if you don't have anything to hide, why worry about it" was their response to people who thought it was over-reach, why should they have any problem with the Dems picking through "the trash?"
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Congressional Democrats want access to everything so they can decide if someone is doing something illegal. Dems want a carte blanche fishing expedition and are basically telling the Patriot Act to hold their beer.

Yeah that pesky Constitution sure is a PIA for your Trump.
 

zinfamous

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Yes, clearly 'Individual 1 who by January 2017 had become President of the United States' could be anyone. I guess there's no way to know. lol.

Federal prosecutors have submitted filings to the court on penalty of perjury and disbarment that state they believe Trump committed at least one felony. If that bothers you, maybe you should ask yourself why you are supporting a felon instead of trying to invent ways in your head where it isn't true.

well, if brandonbull is anything like the rest of Fox News, he probably believes that Hilary is actually president. She certainly occupies a large amount of his brain time.
 
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HomerJS

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We have a President using the Nixon defense, "it's not illegal if the President does it"

Yet a woman stealing a protest sign warrants a thread.

Perspective much??
 

zinfamous

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This seems like a pretty smart read on it - they have convinced themselves that the best thing for the country just so happens to be the best thing for their personal political ambitions.



Yes, that his staff does not respect him seems clear at this point. We have a situation where it is apparently routine that he will tell his staff to do something and they will just ignore him. I cannot imagine a situation with any other president where ignoring their direct orders was a standard way of doing business.

One thing I find interesting is that these stories of his subordinates ignoring him because they think he's insane or incompetent are rampant. If I were the president I would find that emasculating and humiliating and yet he doesn't seem to do much in response to them. Odd that someone with such famously thin skin doesn't do anything about that.

well, apparently, Nixon's security/defense team and Haldeman routinely ignored his late night, stumbling-drunk commands to nuke Russia and burn all of Vietnam into the sea. ....which it is reported that he did rather frequently.
 

thilanliyan

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I must be missing something. Are you saying there is some doubt as to who Individual 1 is?

It's been a long time since I learned my alphabet and learned to say "CRIMINAL", but those articles don't cast any doubt on who Individual 1 is...so what exactly are you trying to say?
 
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I must be missing something. Are you saying there is some doubt as to who Individual 1 is?

It's been a long time since I learned my alphabet and learned to say "CRIMINAL", but those articles don't cast any doubt on who Individual 1 is...so what exactly are you trying to say?

It’s obviously Hillary
 

ivwshane

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I must be missing something. Are you saying there is some doubt as to who Individual 1 is?

It's been a long time since I learned my alphabet and learned to say "CRIMINAL", but those articles don't cast any doubt on who Individual 1 is...so what exactly are you trying to say?

I'm guessing the troll got his accounts mixed up.
 

Jhhnn

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I must be missing something. Are you saying there is some doubt as to who Individual 1 is?

It's been a long time since I learned my alphabet and learned to say "CRIMINAL", but those articles don't cast any doubt on who Individual 1 is...so what exactly are you trying to say?

It's all a giant politically motivated witch hunt! Poor Michael Cohen got railroaded & brainwashed into pleading for mercy! He's a rat! It ought to be illegal! Or something, something equally incoherent.
 
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dawp

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But that's the thing... Trump did not commit any crimes while president. George Bush and Dick Cheney committed plenty of crimes however. And no one cares.

lolololololololololololololololololololol, damn you're delusional.
 

DrDoug

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No cheering until the appeals are over. He'll attempt to get it in a favorable court.

Go ahead and cheer, his attorneys asked for a stay of the order pending appeal and the judge said no because they were unlikely to prevail on appeal. The judge has stated that the House Democrats will get those files.

They aren't released yet but it's lookin' good! :)

ETA: Here's a link to the judge's ruling. I LOVE his intro quote of President James Buchanan complaining about the House forming a committee (the Covode Committee) to investigate him and other members of his administration.

I do, therefore, . . . solemnly protest against these proceedings of the
House of Representatives, because they are in violation of the rights
of the coordinate executive branch of the Government, and
subversive of its constitutional independence; because they are
calculated to foster a band of interested parasites and informers,
ever ready, for their own advantage, to swear before
ex parte
committees to pretended private conversations between the
President and themselves, incapable, from their nature, of being
disproved; thus furnishing material for harassing him, degrading
him in the eyes of the country . . .
-
President James Buchanan

Maybe the House Democrats can rename their committee the Covfefe Committee? :D

Read the ruling, I'm just getting in to it and this judge crosses all of the T's and dots every single I.
 
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