Travel overseas, I pay for expedited passport?

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: bennylong
You sitll haven't explained to me how it makes my life eaiser if I stay in the state forever. Everything I need to proof my identity, I can do with a DL

Sorry. I'm used to transactions that require a passport. I don't understand you.

Better to have it and not need it than not have it a need it I guess.

Case in point - vacation in france....wanted to play roulette. I left my passport at the hotel. I could not enter the casino.

And hey you dummy, your driver's license is a state issued ID. I'm tired of this. Live a little.

 

[mwtgg]

Hey, spidey07, you're generally a nice guy, but you're acting like a total douche right now.

Lighten up, it's only a passport.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Hey, spidey07, you're generally a nice guy, but you're acting like a total douche right now.

Lighten up, it's only a passport.

I know and thanks. Sorry to be so harsh, but life is so much easier if you have a passport. I say that as I didn't have my original birth certificate and lost my SS card. Trying to get those replaced without a passport was a PITA.

I guess I'm from the mindset and personal experience of "I couldn't live with my passport, as this is the defacto US ID. With this I can do anything"

As I have traveled, other countried would agree. "WTF!! you don't have a passport!!"

Then again that's europe where crossing country lines is the same as crossing state lines in the US.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Aquaman
[hot woman] No passport?!?!?! :Q

No poontang
[/hot woman]

Cheers,
Aquaman

me love you long time.

hey g-eye!

me love you long time.

but seriously benny, if you can't understand what I'm talking about then, well I don't really know what to say. Passports make life a lot easier even if you forever stay within states.

You sitll haven't explained to me how it makes my life eaiser if I stay in the state forever. Everything I need to proof my identity, I can do with a DL

Don't bother arguing with Spidey.

He can't understand why people don't experience life exactly like he has. Obviously, if you don't have the financial ability to travel abroad, or quite frankly don't care about leaving the US, then you're a virgin who has yet to see the light of adulthood. Generally speaking, if you don't think you need a passport, then you're an idiot, because it makes his jet-setting life SOOOOO much easier. Anyone who hasn't paid $100 for a passport is a damn fool. Who gives a **** if you never use the passport, it trumps all other forms of identification!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Don't bother arguing with Spidey.

He can't understand why people don't experience life exactly like he has. Obviously, if you don't have the financial ability to travel abroad, or quite frankly don't care about leaving the US, then you're a virgin who has yet to see the light of adulthood. Generally speaking, if you don't think you need a passport, then you're an idiot, because it makes his jet-setting life SOOOOO much easier. Anyone who hasn't paid $100 for a passport is a damn fool. Who gives a **** if you never use the passport, it trumps all other forms of identification!

Does it not trump all other forms of identification?

 

[beatle]

My CAC gets me where my driver's license doesn't. A passport wouldn't. I did not need a passport to get it.

When I read your first response, I thought it was a joke with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek. Since you keep defending it, I can only assume you're serious... and I'm sorry to hear that. I've never needed a passport to do anything in this country. I'm now 26. I'll update the thread with how the situation turns out tomorrow. I can count on one hand the number of people who've told me I should pay for it. I'd need several hands to count how many say the company should foot the bill.

 

[winr]

I am 51 and have never needed to use a passport.



If you stay in the USA when would you need to show someone your passport??




I flew to Aruba and had to get a Captains pass or domething like that , I had to pay$5.00 to a Sky Captain ( I think that was what He was called).

I came home 3 months later and used my DL to get back into the USA.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: winr
I am 51 and have never needed to use a passport.



If you stay in the USA when would you need to show someone your passport??




I flew to Aruba and had to get a Captains pass or domething like that , I had to pay$5.00 to a Sky Captain ( I think that was what He was called).

I came home 3 months later and used my DL to get back into the USA.

That will change for you in January 8th 2007

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Colt45]

passport comes real handy when you kill someone and need to bail.

 

[AZGamer]

Sorry about the flame fest this sort of became; I do work, pay for my own expenses now, and don't think I could live a year without leaving the country - once annually to Mexico, once to London to see the newest West End shows, and once to see family in Poland. I also did a lot of study abroad in Russia, and... well, you see why I didn't anticipate the responses the way they were; I just think it's odd you get by with a document that I couldn't live normally without.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: AZGamer
Sorry about the flame fest this sort of became; I do work, pay for my own expenses now, and don't think I could live a year without leaving the country - once annually to Mexico, once to London to see the newest West End shows, and once to see family in Poland. I also did a lot of study abroad in Russia, and... well, you see why I didn't anticipate the responses the way they were; I just think it's odd you get by with a document that I couldn't live normally without.

Yeah, we'll you're not a redneck. so...

 

[virtuamike]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I say that as I didn't have my original birth certificate and lost my SS card. Trying to get those replaced without a passport was a PITA.

So shouldn't the moral of the story be to hang onto your birth certificate and SS card?

 

[theknight571]

To the OP... here where I work... if they're asking you to go overseas they will pay for your passport, or it's renewal.

I'll stay out of the flame fest.

I accidently started one of my own with my Chili thread a couple days ago.... it's not pretty... lol

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: beatle
I'm going to have to travel to Bahrain this November for a few weeks (2-3) for work. It will probably be over Thanksgiving to boot. I do not have a passport, and work wants me to pay for it and have it expedited so that I can have it faster. This is going to cost me $97 + $60 + overnight shipping costs. They told me that it might be able to be expensed out, but it's not guaranteed. I've never wanted to leave the country (too expensive on my own dime) so it will be worthless to me even if it's good for 10 years. Who do you think should pay for it? Also, why would it be necessary to have it expedited? My travel is almost 3 months away. The passport office's website recommends expedited processing if traveling in less than 8 weeks. I won't be leaving until mid-late November.

Was travel outlined as a possibility when you accepted the job? If so, then it is reasonable for them to expect that you have a passport. If not, them maybe it isn't (although I am surprised how many Americans do not have passports.)

Bottomline - is $160 worth your job?

If it is, then make them agree to paying for both the cost of the passport and the expedited procressing before you order it.

 

[mrrman]

If you are travelling on business then the company should pay

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: mrrman
If you are travelling on business then the company should pay

Disagree. Should the company pay for his upgraded wardrobe as well?

 

[Gunslinger08]

This is the type of thing that would make me not want to work for this company. They expect you to pay for something that you only need because of their actions. If that wasn't bad enough, it costs $150. Compare this to your salary or plane ticket or the cost of your benefits. This is probably the work of one person trying to look good by making you pay a little bit. Screw that. If they don't value you enough to pay $150 for something you need because of them, I'd be finding a new job.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: Colt45
passport comes real handy when you kill someone and need to bail.

Ok, now that's a real good reason to have a passport. Finally, something a driver license won't be accepted in lieu of a passport.

Going to the post office right now to apply for a passport. Shlt happens, know what I'm saying?

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Win at the boat or the track = here's my passport
Wanna get back into the country = here's my passport
Have a question about my idendity = here's my passport
Have a question about my employment eligibility = here's my passport
Wanna let me into the embassy becuase the craps hittin the fan = here's my passport
Wanna let me do things in your country without a federal document in your country? = here's my passport

Win at the boat or the track = here's my driver's license
Wanna get back into the country = this assumes you went out of the country to begin with...
Have a question about my idendity = here's my Driver's license
Have a question about my employment eligibility = here's my driver's license / SS Card
Wanna let me into the embassy becuase the craps hittin the fan = This assumes you are out of the country...
Wanna let me do things in your country without a federal document in your country? = this assumes you are out of the country...

In short, you don't need a passport unless you plan on leaving the country. Everything that you need to do within the states you can do with a driver's license / State ID, and maybe a SS card / Birth Certificate if you stretch it.

Losing your SS Card or Birth Certificate is not a real argument for having a passport. You should have those things stashed away safely, so that you know exactly where they are.

Don't get me wrong, I have travelled out of the country many times, and I am an "adult" by your definition... but having a passport is not a necessity in this country. My passport expired ~5 years ago, and I currently have no need to renew it. I really don't see how you can be so thick headed about this...

 

[beatle]

Yes, travel was a requirement, but it was to US sites only. This project was not even on the table when I started. Should I have paid for my security clearance? The same logic applies, as it is useful to me even after my job here is done. I've spoken to program managers of other companies and their policy is that they (the company) foots the bill for necessary job-specific requirements -- this means passports. If having a passport was a requirement for my job when I took it and I did not have one, then it might be justified that I pay for it. Many jobs requiring a security clearance mandate that you already have one prior to being hired, as the company doesn't want to pay for them.

I talked to my supervisor about it this morning. He was ticked (as I expected) but he's waiting to hear back from the government rep that decides how money is spent. I'll know more next week when the rep comes back. I think it's silly that the company won't pony up the $180 - $190 for it if it means keeping the customer (government) happy. He asked me if I should be taken off the list of people who are going (4 of us). My response was that if they won't be paying for my passport, then yes. But believe me, I'm anything but worried about losing my job over this.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: spidey07
They don't pay for your gas or your clothes, why should they pay for your passport?

If you are traveling for the company, they DO pay for your gas, and rental, and insurance, and housing, and...

 

[Thraxen]

NWTF? I can't believe some people are arguing that the company shouldn't pay for the passport. They are the ones sending him out of the country so they should pay. It's that simple.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
3 months = no problem with regular processing.

but do this:

FILE IT TODAY.

Yup, took a little over a month for me to get my first, but that was a while ago.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
NWTF? I can't believe some people are arguing that the company shouldn't pay for the passport. They are the ones sending him out of the country so they should pay. It's that simple.

If somebody came to me as an employee and demanded the company pay for the passport I would seriously consider whether I wanted them to work for me any longer. So I can't believe people expect the employer to pay.

 

[beatle]

If having a passport is so important to your employees, would you hire someone for domestic travel without one?