Travel overseas, I pay for expedited passport?

[bennylong]

I have been in this country for 28 years and don't have a passport. Why should I pay $100 for a passport when I don't ever plan to leave this country?

 

[savvy]

Company, I believe.

 

[Sukhoi]

There are no shorts in the entire country in the desert?!?!?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Basic life need? Not for 99% of US citizens.

meh, won't convince me that only 1% leave the country. Not only that, i use it for any form of ID as it trumps a state issued ID. "hey, bank...gimme money......here's my paperwork and passport" "hey, I wanna work, here's my passport, it's federal proof of citizenship"

it's a sad state of affairs when people expect their employer to furnish them with basic life needs. What next? expecting an employer to furnish you with your replacement social security card?

Wake up. Get a passport. It opens so many doors for you and IMHO a necessary document, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. To even suggest that it is the employers responsiblity to pay for this is sickening and just goes to prove just how entitled society has become.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Basic life need? Not for 99% of US citizens.

meh, won't convince me that only 1% leave the country. Not only that, i use it for any form of ID as it trumps a state issued ID. "hey, bank...gimme money......here's my paperwork and passport" "hey, I wanna work, here's my passport, it's federal proof of citizenship"

it's a sad state of affairs when people expect their employer to furnish them with basic life needs. What next? expecting an employer to furnish you with your replacement social security card?

Wake up. Get a passport. It opens so many doors for you and IMHO a necessary document, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. To even suggest that it is the employers responsiblity to pay for this is sickening and just goes to prove just how entitled society has become.

open doors for what? I have been fine without leaving this country and I know many people that have never left this country.

USA! USA! USA!

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: AZGamer
First of all, I'm not picking on you - and I don't mean you in particular, but people who as adults don't have passports:

How do you not have a passport? Literally I've had a passport since before I can remember (went to Poland to visit family as a baby). How do you get to adulthood without leaving the country... ever?

I don't mean that question in the rude way it seems; it's just such a (forgive the pun) foreign concept to me - like being Amish and not ever having electricity installed in your house. So, in advance, I apologize if the question sounds offensive on-face; I just wonder.

I've never left the country, and there's one very simple reason why. My family couldn't afford it. Ever. And there was no desire, either.

Now, as an adult, I hold a passport (paid for it myself), but I've never used it, because I haven't had the money - and first string IT people are lucky if they get to travel out of the building, much less out of the country. I'm going to Cancun with some friends for spring break come hell or high water (even if I have to put the whole damned package on a credit card and just make minimum payments - I need some cut-loose time, BAD, and it's actually worth that much to me), though.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Basic life need? Not for 99% of US citizens.

meh, won't convince me that only 1% leave the country. Not only that, i use it for any form of ID as it trumps a state issued ID. "hey, bank...gimme money......here's my paperwork and passport" "hey, I wanna work, here's my passport, it's federal proof of citizenship"

it's a sad state of affairs when people expect their employer to furnish them with basic life needs. What next? expecting an employer to furnish you with your replacement social security card?

Wake up. Get a passport. It opens so many doors for you and IMHO a necessary document, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. To even suggest that it is the employers responsiblity to pay for this is sickening and just goes to prove just how entitled society has become.

Basic life need = something you cannot survive without.

I'm an employer. If I expected my employee to leave his life in the USA for a few weeks/month to take a business trip oversees, I'm not going to have a problem paying $150 for a passport for him. It's a minor expense compared to the expense of the rest of the trip AND I'm the one asking him to leave the USA.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Basic life need? Not for 99% of US citizens.

meh, won't convince me that only 1% leave the country. Not only that, i use it for any form of ID as it trumps a state issued ID. "hey, bank...gimme money......here's my paperwork and passport" "hey, I wanna work, here's my passport, it's federal proof of citizenship"

it's a sad state of affairs when people expect their employer to furnish them with basic life needs. What next? expecting an employer to furnish you with your replacement social security card?

Wake up. Get a passport. It opens so many doors for you and IMHO a necessary document, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. To even suggest that it is the employers responsiblity to pay for this is sickening and just goes to prove just how entitled society has become.

Spidey07, I am against the entitlement mentality as much as anyone. You are correct that there are benefits to having one. You are correct that it is valuable for professionals to have one. But if people choose not to have one, and their employer chooses to send them out of the country, then the employer ought to pay for the passport.

I'm the type that won't even take a pen home from work, but when my passport expired, I didn't pause a second in submitting the renewal fee on my expense report. It's an expense that I had to incur because of company business, just like when I rent a car or need safety glasses.

 

[doze]

Company should pay for it as they are requiring you to leave the country and you would not need a passport otherwise.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'm an employer. If I expected my employee to leave his life in the USA for a few weeks/month to take a business trip oversees, I'm not going to have a problem paying $150 for a passport for him. It's a minor expense compared to the expense of the rest of the trip AND I'm the one asking him to leave the USA.

Well in the end you are certainly correct.

But it just really boggles my mind that people don't have a passport. I mean I can't even fathom that people don't have one. I use it for everything...

Win at the boat or the track = here's my passport
Wanna get back into the country = here's my passport
Have a question about my idendity = here's my passport
Have a question about my employment eligibility = here's my passport
Wanna let me into the embassy becuase the craps hittin the fan = here's my passport
Wanna let me do things in your country without a federal document in your country? = here's my passport

I mean really. How doesn't have one????? That boggles my mind.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'm an employer. If I expected my employee to leave his life in the USA for a few weeks/month to take a business trip oversees, I'm not going to have a problem paying $150 for a passport for him. It's a minor expense compared to the expense of the rest of the trip AND I'm the one asking him to leave the USA.

Well in the end you are certainly correct.

But it just really boggles my mind that people don't have a passport. I mean I can't even fathom that people don't have one. I use it for everything...

Win at the boat or the track = here's my passport
Wanna get back into the country = here's my passport
Have a question about my idendity = here's my passport
Have a question about my employment eligibility = here's my passport
Wanna let me into the embassy becuase the craps hittin the fan = here's my passport
Wanna let me do things in your country without a federal document in your country? = here's my passport

I mean really. How doesn't have one????? That boggles my mind.

Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all. But sure, if you like a life of inconvience then by all means don't get one.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all.

I'm 33 years old and I have never been asked for my passport. Not even when I went to Mexico or Canada. They just ask if you're a US citizen or a Non Citizen and your purpose of travel.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all.

I'm 33 years old and I have never been asked for my passport. Not even when I went to Mexico or Canada. They just ask if you're a US citizen or a Non Citizen and your purpose of travel.

whatever, my point isn't being heard with you. You haven't dealt with adulthood yet.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all.

I'm 33 years old and I have never been asked for my passport. Not even when I went to Mexico or Canada. They just ask if you're a US citizen or a Non Citizen and your purpose of travel.

whatever, my point isn't being heard with you. You haven't dealt with adulthood yet.

What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all.

I'm 33 years old and I have never been asked for my passport. Not even when I went to Mexico or Canada. They just ask if you're a US citizen or a Non Citizen and your purpose of travel.

whatever, my point isn't being heard with you. You haven't dealt with adulthood yet.

What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I'm trying to figure this one out myself. What is adulthood?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

-edit-
in reference to the OP and benny - adulthood means doing what you need to do. Not having a passport at age 30 and fighting it are the reactions of a child.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

Last time I checked, I have been fully employed for the past 10 years and living by myself paying my own rent. I guess I haven't reached adulthood as I don't have a passport to definte my adulthood.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong
Why do I need one? I use my driver license to prove my identity. I'm never leaving this great country.

when you grow up you'll find that it is very, very handy. Otherwise be prepared for a world of inconvience (unless of course you LIKE keeping track of your birth certificate, social and otherforms of non picture ID). that is a state issued ID and normally needs some other form of authenticity.

I repeat again - a passport is a federal document and trumps all.

I'm 33 years old and I have never been asked for my passport. Not even when I went to Mexico or Canada. They just ask if you're a US citizen or a Non Citizen and your purpose of travel.

Try that in a year when rules change and you need a a passport to get back into your country.

I am Canadian and by next year we will be needing a passport to get into the good old USA.

So I assume that US citizens will also need it to get back into their own country because we (Canada) are expecting a huge hit on US citizen day trips because they will need a passport or one of the new ID cards to get back into the USA.

I think the article I read a couple months back said around 30% of all US citizens had a passport.

I'm getting mine because it will cause less hassle when I travel in the near future.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

-edit-
in reference to the OP and benny - adulthood means doing what you need to do. Not having a passport at age 30 and fighting it are the reactions of a child.

You still haven't explained to us why we need a passport if we never plan to leave this country. Tell us, ole wise one.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

Last time I checked, I have been fully employed for the past 10 years and living by myself paying my own rent. I guess I haven't reached adulthood as I don't have a passport to definte my adulthood.

And you wonder why you can't get a date and are still a virgin.

this is why.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

Last time I checked, I have been fully employed for the past 10 years and living by myself paying my own rent. I guess I haven't reached adulthood as I don't have a passport to definte my adulthood.

And you wonder why you can't get a date and are still a virgin.

this is why.

[hot woman] No passport?!?!?! :Q

No poontang
[/hot woman]

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
What's your definition of adulthood, then? I'd love to hear it.

I figured I would get called on that.

"able to care for yourself and others without outside influence, and not expecting others to take care of your needs"

Last time I checked, I have been fully employed for the past 10 years and living by myself paying my own rent. I guess I haven't reached adulthood as I don't have a passport to definte my adulthood.

And you wonder why you can't get a date and are still a virgin.

this is why.

But weren't you telling me I shouldn't married someone oversea because they will just use me for my passport? Make up your mind!

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
[hot woman] No passport?!?!?! :Q

No poontang
[/hot woman]

Cheers,
Aquaman

me love you long time.

hey g-eye!

me love you long time.

but seriously benny, if you can't understand what I'm talking about then, well I don't really know what to say. Passports make life a lot easier even if you forever stay within states.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Aquaman
[hot woman] No passport?!?!?! :Q

No poontang
[/hot woman]

Cheers,
Aquaman

me love you long time.

hey g-eye!

me love you long time.

but seriously benny, if you can't understand what I'm talking about then, well I don't really know what to say. Passports make life a lot easier even if you forever stay within states.

You sitll haven't explained to me how it makes my life eaiser if I stay in the state forever. Everything I need to proof my identity, I can do with a DL