Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen discussion

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I enjoyed the movie overall, probably more so than the first. The twins were so so. I was hoping for Bud Light kinda twins when I heard about it. Seemed like it was going to come true when the chicks on the bikes made their all too brief appearance. Oh, and Megan Fox was raised the next town over from me.. not that it matters.

During the previews, they showed the 2012 trailer. Afterwords, a woman behind me said, "Why are they showing a movie that won't be out for four years?". First off, its three. Secondly... ugh.

If its supposed to be the end of the world how would they be able to escape it in ships. You'd think it would've taken years to build those ships. word of it likely would've leaked out.

the one movie preview I thought was stupid was the Aliens in the Attics one.

 

[Linux23]

God this movie is the worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time. It was long. It was overdone. It was absolutely dreadful. I was looking at my watch the entire time. How could Bay screw this up so badly? I can't even let Bay take all the blame. I mean the writing was a complete POS. The whole creative team should be rounded up, lined up against a wall and...let your imagination run wild.

I haven't been to the movies in awhile and I can honestly tell you I didn't miss much.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: herkulease
the one movie preview I thought was stupid was the Aliens in the Attics one.

I didn't see that one at my showing. I did see a trailer for a movie called Gamer that just looked stupid. Like a ripoff of Death Race and other 'fight to the death to get out of prison' movies with a stupid game related hook.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Linux23
God this movie is the worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time. It was long. It was overdone. It was absolutely dreadful. I was looking at my watch the entire time. How could Bay screw this up so badly? I can't even let Bay take all the blame. I mean the writing was a complete POS. The whole creative team should be rounded up, lined up against a wall and...let your imagination run wild.

I haven't been to the movies in awhile and I can honestly tell you I didn't miss much.

Supposedly, the writing was done in a rush job because of the writer's strike. They even brought in a third writer who's got a somewhat of a bad reputation (Krueger or something) but thought he knew the Transformers universe pretty well. I'd say the rush job showed.

 

[herkulease]

My biggest grip was that the ending wasn't satisfying I'd say more but not sure if this is to be a spoiler free thread or not. I know there will be a #3 and all. At least the ending wasn't as bad as Pirates of the Caribbean 2 where Depp jumped into the kracken and it ended.

If I was Tyrese or Josh Drummel(sp?) I'd be happy. I mean they probably got 7 figures at least and didn't seem to do that much work.

 

[Q]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: herkulease
the one movie preview I thought was stupid was the Aliens in the Attics one.

I didn't see that one at my showing. I did see a trailer for a movie called Gamer that just looked stupid. Like a ripoff of Death Race and other 'fight to the death to get out of prison' movies with a stupid game related hook.

Yeah I saw that trailer somewhere else, looks like they lifted story from Death Race and put it in a new setting.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: herkulease
the one movie preview I thought was stupid was the Aliens in the Attics one.

I didn't see that one at my showing. I did see a trailer for a movie called Gamer that just looked stupid. Like a ripoff of Death Race and other 'fight to the death to get out of prison' movies with a stupid game related hook.

Yeah I saw that trailer somewhere else, looks like they lifted story from Death Race and put it in a new setting.

Fuck that looks awesome!!! Image if COD was like that !!!! (except the death bit)
Edit: Perhaps that is the future of video games? You jack in like in the matrix? And its feels "real" Imagine world of warcraft

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I didn't see that one at my showing. I did see a trailer for a movie called Gamer that just looked stupid. Like a ripoff of Death Race and other 'fight to the death to get out of prison' movies with a stupid game related hook.

But it's got Michael C. Hall from Dexter and Six Feet Under... it can't be that bad .

EDIT:

I actually walked in during the Harry Potter trailer 'cause the people in front of me in the line couldn't figure out what they wanted to buy tickets for. Actually haven't seen that Harry Potter trailer before.

 

[purbeast0]

just got back from it.

wow this movie was so fucking badass, better than the first 1. i loved the fight scenes in this, especially the one in the forest.

you people saying this movie sucks are on crack, so damn entertaining and badass. i didn't want it to end.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
just got back from it.

wow this movie was so fucking badass, better than the first 1. i loved the fight scenes in this, especially the one in the forest.

you people saying this movie sucks are on crack, so damn entertaining and badass. i didn't want it to end.

:thumbsup:

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
just got back from it.

wow this movie was so fucking badass, better than the first 1. i loved the fight scenes in this, especially the one in the forest.

you people saying this movie sucks are on crack, so damn entertaining and badass. i didn't want it to end.

Well lucky for you it went on... and on... and on... and on... and on... and on... and on...

 

[judasmachine]

Saw the first one for $1.99, and I feel I was robbed. I can see Ms. Fox on the interwebs whenever I feel like it.

 

[John P]

Originally posted by: Queasy
This Ain't It Cool review perfectly sums up how I feel about Mudflap and Skids...aka Car Car Binks.

And worst of all, the frightening sidekicks of the film and the mistake this film will most likely be forever known for: Mudflap and Skids, the Stepin Fetchbots of the film. It?s as if Michael Bay looked at Jar Jar Binks and said ?Oh, fuck no. Really? People find THAT offensive? Fuck that, I?ll show them a fucking stereotype they?ll never fucking forget!? And he does.

Oh. My. God.

They speak in clichéd urban slang, tossing around phrases like ?I?m gonna pop a cap in your ass? while fist bumping and mumbling unintelligently in a voice that sounds like a bad Chappelle Show sketch. Then you get a close up. And they each have bug eyes and a gold tooth. Then there?s this jackass comment about them not being able to read. My jaw was on the floor. I mean, if you?re gonna toss out a bad stereotype, at least have the courtesy to make that stereotype a complete badass so as to deflect complaints that this is a deliberately negative portrayal. These mother fuckers are incompetent, bumbling and never, EVER, cool.

I just couldn't understand Bay's focus on Car Car Binks. The remaining Autobots from the first movie got almost no screen time and zero character development outside of Optimus Prime. Bumblebee gets very little and is just a repeat from the first movie (though his fight at the end was cool and his scene at college with Sam and Alice in the car was hilarious). The new additions to the Autobots got absolutely zero character development as well. Sideswipe (the Corvette Stingray with swords) looked positively badass but barely spoke a word or did anything aside from standing around looking badass. The Arcee triplets looked interesting as fembots but got no development and spoke maybe one line.

I wasn't expecting Shakespeare or anything but holy crap was Car Car Binks nearly a film killer.

Wow, how can Bay take something with so much potential and screw it up so pathetically? The idiot twin robots, humping dogs and robot, messed up version of college life, mom on pot, etc, were just plain not needed. Movie had so much potential but was a let down except for the action scenes.

 

[Ackmed]

^^ All the things you listed, had people rolling at the movies. Sure its a messed up version of college life, but it was funny. And the mom on pot, was funny.

Originally posted by: Linux23
God this movie is the worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time. It was long. It was overdone. It was absolutely dreadful. I was looking at my watch the entire time. How could Bay screw this up so badly? I can't even let Bay take all the blame. I mean the writing was a complete POS. The whole creative team should be rounded up, lined up against a wall and...let your imagination run wild.

I haven't been to the movies in awhile and I can honestly tell you I didn't miss much.

Well, most people disagree with you. So it seems they got it right.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
^^ All the things you listed, had people rolling at the movies. Sure its a messed up version of college life, but it was funny. And the mom on pot, was funny.

Originally posted by: Linux23
God this movie is the worst piece of shit I've seen in a long time. It was long. It was overdone. It was absolutely dreadful. I was looking at my watch the entire time. How could Bay screw this up so badly? I can't even let Bay take all the blame. I mean the writing was a complete POS. The whole creative team should be rounded up, lined up against a wall and...let your imagination run wild.

I haven't been to the movies in awhile and I can honestly tell you I didn't miss much.

Well, most people disagree with you. So it seems they got it right.

You seem to be one of the few defending this cinematic abortion. I tried to talk a group of 6 friends out of going to see it last night, but they did. I got a call afterwards saying they wish they'd taken my advice.

 

[Sea Moose]

I am seeing transformers tonight, i will tell you all how it is.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
I am seeing transformers tonight, i will tell you all how it is.

ditto.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
I am seeing transformers tonight, i will tell you all how it is.

No you won't, because I already know how it is

 

[smitbret]

This is one of the most hilariously ironic threads of all time.

If only the marketing team had paid the Cohen brothers to put their name somewhere on this, people would be ranting about it being a materpiece of ground-breaking cinema. Or maybe if it had been labelled as a sequel to Donnie Darko......... anyway.

Hypocricy is so funny when it relates to pop culture. For some ungodly reason there seem to be millions of Transformers naysayers. Where did they all come from? Here's a couple of points to consider:

• It's an action flick

• It has giant robots from another planet

• Megan Fox cannot act, but looks really good (Toe thumbs and all)

• This movie was directed by Michael Bay

• It's a sequel

There is not one person on this planet that has the facilities to see this movie that does not know these things ahead of time. If you went and watched it anywayand expected something else, then you are such an idiot that your opinion really has ZERO validity in the first place. Not only that, but 99.9% of the people in the theaters that you watched the movie with have already seen the first one, yet all of these people around you are struck with disbelief because it was almost as bad as the first one, except with more robots, less people and less plot development????? It's a freaking sequel...... of an action movie!!!!! Relevant plot and character development have already been taken care of about three years ago. Yes, I'm sure that Star Trek:Nemesis was really heavy on character development. If you are pissed at lack of plot and character development, you should have saved your money to see Public Enemies, then we could listen to you whine about how the pace was too slow and Michael Mann seemed too obsessed with developing his characters and letting the plot unfold too slowly.

Oh yeah let's not forget the preview for The Last Airbender. How does anyone get excited for the preview of a live action movie, that is based on Anime and then follow it up by complaining about the following movie being unbelievable, incomprehensible and lacking character development?

Seriously people. Good lord.

 

[Kaido]

Wow, that was terrible.

Second worst movie I've seen all year. Almost as bad as "Knowing" with Nick Cage - at least that movie was good for the first hour and a half The first 3/4th of Transformers 2 was so boring, I almost got up and left. Then there was all the stupidity - the mom swearing like a sailor, the dogs in heat, the jive-talking twin robots. It was also hard to follow - I couldn't tell who was who during the fight scenes, and I didn't even realize Megatron was different from the Fallen guy until the end of the movie, lol.

How could they have done such a good job with the first one, and failed at this one so miserably?

 

[tboo]

First, let me say I liked Transformers, howver the Fallen is absolutely one of the worst movies Ive seen in a long time.

 

[SSSnail]

I went to watch it because I wanted to enjoy Transformers as I remembered them. I did not bring my analytical mind, I did not bring my criticism. I brought the child in me and he enjoyed it thoroughly.

I'm sorry for those of you that cannot enjoy the movie, something has died inside of you.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
I went to watch it because I wanted to enjoy Transformers as I remembered them. I did not bring my analytical mind, I did not bring my criticism. I brought the child in me and he enjoyed it thoroughly.

I'm sorry for those of you that cannot enjoy the movie, something has died inside of you.

I have mixed feelings.

On one hand, yeah - the whole point of a movie is just to go and have fun for two hours. Transformers 2 hit a lot of the fun buttons - helicopters, explosions, robots, etc.

On the other hand - I don't remember the Transformers I watched as a kid having terrible language, boring plots (okay, well, sometimes haha), ridiculous sexual innuendos, etc.

So yeah, it's just a movie, but I was pretty disappointed in the quality of the movie, I guess.

 

[Doggiedog]

Just got back after taking my kids (9, 7) to it.

I thought it was enjoyable. It was your typically summer blockbuster Michael Bay movie. My son would look at me and smile when there was cursing and then asked me what scrotum meant when I LOLed. It was a little awkward but I know kids know more than you think.

I did notice a lot of inconsistencies though. Like at the Smithsonian, how did they open a hangar door and end up at the airplane graveyard in Nevada?

During the trailers, I groaned when I saw that M Night Shylaman (sp) was coming out with another movie. I thought he was washed up? I promised myself that if those guys were aliens in Signs that I would never see one of his movies again. I've kept my promise and it looks like I will have to skip Airbender.

 

[amdhunter]

Funny how the guys with kids enjoyed the movie. I guess seeing it with a kid might make it more enjoyable.