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[max2]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2
You can be tracked very easily using torrents

You can be tracked very easily using newsgroups too. You can be tracked using any part of the internet.

you must upload, you must wait in line, and you rarely get your maximum speed.

Bullsh1t.

Honey you need to get your facts straight.

The torrents I am now downloading started immediately and easily max out my connection between them. I am not seeding anything.

Why wouldn't you be tracable over usenet... you're connecting to another computer aren't you? So you can be traced.

No your not connecting to another computer. Your downloading from a newsgroup server. It could be your isps, giganews, newshosting, etc

You never have to upload either inless you want to.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: max2
No your not connecting to another computer. Your downloading from a newsgroup server.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

LOLz, end of thread

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: hytek369
any links for noobs to newsgroups

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php?page=1

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Shawn
newsgroups are garbage

:thumbsup:

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2
No your not connecting to another computer. Your downloading from a newsgroup server.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

LOLz, end of thread

I am talking about as in not another computer as in another person using their computer. Thats how BT works.

When your using newsgroups everyone is getting stuff from one huge newsgroup server.

When people upload to newsgroups they upload to this once and thats it. They never have to upload again or keep reusing their upload bandwidth wasting it and making their isp complain.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: max2
You can be tracked very easily using torrents,

True, however you can be tracked anywhere on the internet.

you must upload

It's helpful and it does affect your speed (sometimes drastically), however it's not a "requirement". Though there do have to be uploads for you to download

you must wait in line

BitTorrent thrives on having more users. More users = more bandwidth. Having lines would be detrimental to the idea of a BitTorrent network.

and you rarely get your maximum speed.

Depends on what you download. Some obscure file with only one seeder? Probably, a linux ISO or a TV show? I've easily maxed out my 4mbps line on those.

Honey you need to get your facts straight.

I would suggest you do the same.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2
No your not connecting to another computer. Your downloading from a newsgroup server.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

LOLz, end of thread

I am talking about as in not another computer as in another person using their computer. Thats how BT works.

When your using newsgroups everyone is getting stuff from one huge newsgroup server.

When people upload to newsgroups they upload to this once and thats it. They never have to upload again or keep reusing their upload bandwidth wasting it and making their isp complain.

K, sorry I laughed, it looked like you were saying a news server is not a computer...

BTW, I am fully aware of how these protocols work, but I think the decentralization is a good thing. Keep in mind the overall bandwidth used is the same - it's just a matter of whether you want to pay for the privilige of using the news server.

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2
No your not connecting to another computer. Your downloading from a newsgroup server.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!

LOLz, end of thread

I am talking about as in not another computer as in another person using their computer. Thats how BT works.

When your using newsgroups everyone is getting stuff from one huge newsgroup server.

When people upload to newsgroups they upload to this once and thats it. They never have to upload again or keep reusing their upload bandwidth wasting it and making their isp complain.

K, sorry I laughed, it looked like you were saying a news server is not a computer...

BTW, I am fully aware of how these protocols work, but I think the decentralization is a good thing. Keep in mind the overall bandwidth used is the same - it's just a matter of whether you want to pay for the privilige of using the news server.

You don't have to pay to use a news server.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: pulse8
I'm rarely able to max out my 6mb connection with a torrent. I do it all the time with usenet.

You're just not on the right sites. Probably using IsoHunt, PB or the like.

If you get on sites that require an invitation, or that are much harder to get on, then its a different story. I get 1 MBps all the time and I have the 8 Mbps through comcast. But I'm on the more l33t sites which to get on you'll have to get an invite somewhere, or constantly check daily to see if they booted some users and you can sign up.

They fill up fast though, one in particular did a huge clean up of users with no usage for months and/or less then 1:1 sharing ratios - somethink like 10,000 users and all the slots were filled up again before the following day.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: quakefiend420
then someone explain why torrents are better than newsgroups

There are very few things that you could name right now that I couldn't find on BT. I can find anything on BT. Newsgroups are still good, don't get me wrong - but you can't find anything with a few simple searches. Although you can make requests and have people get things for you that aren't around at the time, you can do that very same thing on a lot of BT sites I'm on. .torrent is definetely > NNTP but only if you know what your doing and have the patience to get on the good sites

And as for the speed argument - like I said, you guys are just n00bs to the BT scene. Of course you won't max your connection using a demonoid tracked torrent or something you got on PB, because not everyone has to share to a 1:1 ratio. Get on sites that require a 1:1 sharing ratio or better (otherwise they get booted) and its more then easy to max out your connection.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: max2
You can be tracked very easily using torrents

You can be tracked very easily using newsgroups too. You can be tracked using any part of the internet.

you must upload, you must wait in line, and you rarely get your maximum speed.

Bullsh1t.

Honey you need to get your facts straight.

The torrents I am now downloading started immediately and easily max out my connection between them. I am not seeding anything.

Why wouldn't you be tracable over usenet... you're connecting to another computer aren't you? So you can be traced.

Most good usenet services only maintain upload logs, downloads are probably about as close as you can get to anonymous on the net.

 

[CyraKrin]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: Bozono
Both have their purpose. Newsgroups pwn for documentaries, lossless, and other things. The problem with BT is that many ISP's now throttle the .torrent protocol, including mine.

Ditto. Damn Shaw Cable. :|:thumbsdown:

HAHA, you gave me sh!t for switching to telus too.

60gb a month, no throttling, better upload.

 

[OutHouse]

does the RIAA nail people for music sharing on torrent like they do for Kazza?

 

[Fingolfin269]

I keep capping out my free Giganews via Comcast early each month. Anyone have advice on which news service to use now that I'm ready to move up?

 

[Goosemaster]

I can't believe you people actually beleived me:laugh:

 

[max2]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: quakefiend420
then someone explain why torrents are better than newsgroups

There are very few things that you could name right now that I couldn't find on BT. I can find anything on BT. Newsgroups are still good, don't get me wrong - but you can't find anything with a few simple searches. Although you can make requests and have people get things for you that aren't around at the time, you can do that very same thing on a lot of BT sites I'm on. .torrent is definetely > NNTP but only if you know what your doing and have the patience to get on the good sites

And as for the speed argument - like I said, you guys are just n00bs to the BT scene. Of course you won't max your connection using a demonoid tracked torrent or something you got on PB, because not everyone has to share to a 1:1 ratio. Get on sites that require a 1:1 sharing ratio or better (otherwise they get booted) and its more then easy to max out your connection.

You can still be tracked over BT. I don't care what trackers you use.

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: xcript

Originally posted by: Bozono
Both have their purpose. Newsgroups pwn for documentaries, lossless, and other things. The problem with BT is that many ISP's now throttle the .torrent protocol, including mine.

Ditto. Damn Shaw Cable. :|:thumbsdown:

the good news: shaw cable just raised their monthly caps by 2x!!! this means 60 gb for regular, 100 for xtreme!!!

Holy crap, you're right! (just checked their site).

Thanks for the heads-up. :beer:

Now, if they'd just stop throttling the sh!t out of BT..

Azures 2.4.0.0 has the option to provide encryption of BT traffic, and its apparently been working for many Shaw users. See here. Give it a try. Also try using non standard ports.. something other then 6881-6889.

They arent throttling here yet, im guessing it has something to do with the fact that theres no Shaw digital phone here yet.

 

[MageXX9]

I don't care what anyone says, Newsgroups are the utmost *BEST*!!!!

Torrents are lame. Newsgroups are the best mainly because not every idiot on the internet understands how to work them.

If you want to know how fast your connection is....download things from newsgroups.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: max2

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: quakefiend420
then someone explain why torrents are better than newsgroups

There are very few things that you could name right now that I couldn't find on BT. I can find anything on BT. Newsgroups are still good, don't get me wrong - but you can't find anything with a few simple searches. Although you can make requests and have people get things for you that aren't around at the time, you can do that very same thing on a lot of BT sites I'm on. .torrent is definetely > NNTP but only if you know what your doing and have the patience to get on the good sites

And as for the speed argument - like I said, you guys are just n00bs to the BT scene. Of course you won't max your connection using a demonoid tracked torrent or something you got on PB, because not everyone has to share to a 1:1 ratio. Get on sites that require a 1:1 sharing ratio or better (otherwise they get booted) and its more then easy to max out your connection.

You can still be tracked over BT. I don't care what trackers you use.

Any proof to support your claim? Perhaps you've never heard of or used safepeer and/or proxy servers before.

The fact is that regardless of where you go or what you do on the internet, you could potentially be tracked. BT is no more or less "safe" then Newsgroups if used in an intelligent manner.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: MageXX9
I don't care what anyone says, Newsgroups are the utmost *BEST*!!!!

Torrents are lame. Newsgroups are the best mainly because not every idiot on the internet understands how to work them.

If you want to know how fast your connection is....download things from newsgroups.

Im perfectly aware of how fast my connection is

torrents > *

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: pulse8
I'm rarely able to max out my 6mb connection with a torrent. I do it all the time with usenet.

:thumbsup: nntp>*

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: MageXX9
I don't care what anyone says, Newsgroups are the utmost *BEST*!!!!

Torrents are lame. Newsgroups are the best mainly because not every idiot on the internet understands how to work them.

If you want to know how fast your connection is....download things from newsgroups.

How does that make it the best? :roll: I'll never understand you newsgroup fanboi's, you like to think you belong to this secret society that so few know how to use or even know about. You do realize that in order to get things not on newsgroups you need to ASK for others to upload it. I never need to ASK anyone for something on BT, I just search for it and download. Torrents are free, easier to deal with, and easier to search for. I don't need to max out my bandwidth just to get a movie, I can wait a day or more for my warez anyway because I'm usually occupied with something else.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: MageXX9
I don't care what anyone says, Newsgroups are the utmost *BEST*!!!!

Torrents are lame. Newsgroups are the best mainly because not every idiot on the internet understands how to work them.

If you want to know how fast your connection is....download things from newsgroups.

Im perfectly aware of how fast my connection is

torrents > *

Thank you, at least I'm not the only one who knows what I'm talking about. The whole torrents > * that is opinion for the most part, but this whole "torrents are slow" thing is complete nonsense. I can promise you that the only people who think BT is slow are those using PB and TorrentSpy and the like. And people who use those sites are obviously n00bs to the BT scene.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: pulse8
I'm rarely able to max out my 6mb connection with a torrent. I do it all the time with usenet.

:thumbsup: nntp>*

Another n00b who tried torrents one time, used PB, and then drew their conclusions from that sole experience. :thumbsup:

 

[j00fek]

i love newbz