Top Ten Apps, iOS and Android: What its mean?

[zerocool84]

qft, I bought 4 apps on the Android top 10 list, and not a single 1 was because I wanted to. Without them my EVO ran like turd and the battery was gone in 1/2 a day with very light usage. Stock my phone was unusable without a 2nd battery, and even then I'd probably have wanted a 3rd one. I've modded the holy hell out of my phone, spending $20 on apps in the process. I honestly which I could have went without buying them though. While I love modding, I don't enjoy doing it for the sake of making my phone work the way it should from the factory. I like to enhance things, not fix stuff HTC seemed incapable of doing themselves.

That's your fault for buying a phone with known bad battery life.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

qft, I bought 4 apps on the Android top 10 list, and not a single 1 was because I wanted to. Without them my EVO ran like turd and the battery was gone in 1/2 a day with very light usage. Stock my phone was unusable without a 2nd battery, and even then I'd probably have wanted a 3rd one. I've modded the holy hell out of my phone, spending $20 on apps in the process. I honestly which I could have went without buying them though. While I love modding, I don't enjoy doing it for the sake of making my phone work the way it should from the factory. I like to enhance things, not fix stuff HTC seemed incapable of doing themselves.

There is not a single app in the top 10 list that would 1. Help with battery life by itself, and 2. isn't free and can be done easily without buying those apps on the first place.

 

[RampantAndroid]

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/03/the-difference-between-the-top-ten-iphone-android-applications/



iPhone users like their games. Android users like their utilities and customizations.

Android I found needed customizations before I could use the phone without puking. Moreover, those customizations don't exist on non-JBed iphones. You accept the iphone as it is, or not at all (or you JB, which not many people do - not a majority.) Android? Well...don't like the keyboard? Get a new one!

To some, that's a strength. To some, a weakness. I didn't want to spend forever reformatting my Captivate to use EXT2/3 instead of FAT32. Or overclocking it so that it didn't run slower than an old 286 trying to run Windows or something...and GPS never worked right.

I really don't get how non-powerusers enjoy Android. Maybe the captivate was just a bad phone.

 

[finbarqs]

in all honesty, there will be power users who will appreciate the customization of Android OS. People with iOS couldn't be bothered with the OS. They just want apps for apps, not apps to enable/disable certain features of the OS.

In apple's world, everything just "works". These people can't be bothered.

In Androids world, everything will work how YOU want it to. But it'll take some work. These people want it that way...

 

[Munky]

It tells me Apple has little to no customization apps, so there's nothing to do except download games.

 

[RampantAndroid]

in all honesty, there will be power users who will appreciate the customization of Android OS. People with iOS couldn't be bothered with the OS. They just want apps for apps, not apps to enable/disable certain features of the OS.

In apple's world, everything just "works". These people can't be bothered.

In Androids world, everything will work how YOU want it to. But it'll take some work. These people want it that way...

Well, the problem there though is on the basis that every Android phone uses a different altered OS...all OEMs seem to fork android. Like I said, some will want that, but do you really thing all the people with android WANT to tinker?

iOS is just meant to work, yes - it's meant to be trouble free...but at the same time, I expect the basic Android phone to be OK without extra work. I shouldn't have to change GPS settings in the hidden menus to get GPS to work better...and even once changed, the GPS fixes were off by ~.5 - 1 mile. Photos took forever to save. Backups didn't exist...you need to have apps...some ROOTED apps even....and even custom ROMs to make Android function better. I want customization, but I don't want to be replacing or dealin with driver issues.

 

[QueBert]

There is not a single app in the top 10 list that would 1. Help with battery life by itself, and 2. isn't free and can be done easily without buying those apps on the first place.

I don't consider going into a shell and running a bunch of commands thru ADB to be easy. the XDA knock-off apps almost all are either very involved or buggy as hell. And while you're right no 1 app helps battery life, a combination of them definitely does. Before buying the apps I went the cheap route, I flashed about 4 roms and 5 kernals trying to do it on my own. Navigating XDA's forums is almost as bad as howardsforums. Thousands of posts in a single thread without much useful info unless you're already very well versed on Android. It would take a non Android person a week of reading to figure anything out.

The bottom line though is I shouldn't have had to spend weeks on a hacker fill forum just to get my phone to run well. My Droid 1 had good battery life, but even OC'ed to 1.1ghz it was laggy as hell.

 

[badb0y]

Also another thing to keep in mind is almost every app on the Appstore will work on the iPhone but not all the apps I download on my Atrix work for it.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I don't consider going into a shell and running a bunch of commands thru ADB to be easy. the XDA knock-off apps almost all are either very involved or buggy as hell. And while you're right no 1 app helps battery life, a combination of them definitely does. Before buying the apps I went the cheap route, I flashed about 4 roms and 5 kernals trying to do it on my own. Navigating XDA's forums is almost as bad as howardsforums. Thousands of posts in a single thread without much useful info unless you're already very well versed on Android. It would take a non Android person a week of reading to figure anything out.

The bottom line though is I shouldn't have had to spend weeks on a hacker fill forum just to get my phone to run well. My Droid 1 had good battery life, but even OC'ed to 1.1ghz it was laggy as hell.

What apps are you talking about and what shell are you talking about. Why do you need ADB, what for?

And what combination of apps are you talking about that helps battery life.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Android I found needed customizations before I could use the phone without puking. Moreover, those customizations don't exist on non-JBed iphones. You accept the iphone as it is, or not at all (or you JB, which not many people do - not a majority.) Android? Well...don't like the keyboard? Get a new one!

To some, that's a strength. To some, a weakness. I didn't want to spend forever reformatting my Captivate to use EXT2/3 instead of FAT32. Or overclocking it so that it didn't run slower than an old 286 trying to run Windows or something...and GPS never worked right.

I really don't get how non-powerusers enjoy Android. Maybe the captivate was just a bad phone.

Non power users don't get Android at all. And when they call the iPhone a toy I laugh at them because they haven't even gone skin deep with Android. People who enjoy thier choppy launchers that look like slideshows really make me laugh. But this is 95% of users. They accept phones AS IS.

And as it is out of the box, Android is a very bad experience. I'd say that the only true iPhone competitor is an HTC Sense device. The rest you have to tweak the crap out of it to get some benefit.

 

[QueBert]

What apps are you talking about and what shell are you talking about. Why do you need ADB, what for?

And what combination of apps are you talking about that helps battery life.

I don't remember, but to accomplish what the people on XDA were doing you had to do a lot of crap manually, seems the more hacker'ish they are the more they dislike doing anything automatically. For my battery life I had to get SetCPU, Juicedefender Uber Ultimate or whatever and humm *thinking* Root Explorer so I could replace a few of the pesky system APK's that for whatever reason I couldn't even do using RA-recovery. XDA has a wealth of great resources, but you'll have to spend the better part of a week tracking it all down and sifting thru the millions of posts. All I wanted was for my new phone to function well, I wasn't trying to program my own apps or write scripts. When I had my iPhone it just worked, 2 weeks into my EVO and countless modding hours later my battery life is still pretty crummy and the UI isn't nearly as responsive as my iPhone 2G's was, pretty damn sad if you ask me. While I love tweaking stuff, I feel the amount of time I put into Android doesn't add up with the return I'm seeing.

But with that said, I like a lot of things about Android and my EVO so I'll stick with it, complaints and all.

 

[MagickMan]

It tells me Apple has little to no customization apps, so there's nothing to do except download games.

Tells me that Apple users are too busy playing games to worry about screwing with their OS.

C'mon, people, let's cut the crap. Both platforms have their merits, if you'll just pull your heads out of your asses long enough to look.

 

[DirkGently1]

It could also be showing that Android needs to be customized before being used while iOS you can already start playing games once you get it.

Rofl!

Customization is an option, not a necessity

 

[QueBert]

Rofl!

Customization is an option, not a necessity

I wouldn't say it's an option when you have Android phones that won't last all day with light usage. Now if these phones I'm talking about shipped with 2 batteries and a charger that can charge the phone + extra battery at the same time. You might be right, but for my EVO customization was absolutely necessary. I have met people who always carry around 2 spare batteries for their phone, that's retarded.

 

[zerocool84]

I wouldn't say it's an option when you have Android phones that won't last all day with light usage. Now if these phones I'm talking about shipped with 2 batteries and a charger that can charge the phone + extra battery at the same time. You might be right, but for my EVO customization was absolutely necessary. I have met people who always carry around 2 spare batteries for their phone, that's retarded.

If battery life was so important to you then why did you get the Evo? Even before it was released it was known that it had bad battery life. There are other Android phones with good battery life if that's what mattered to you.

 

[zerogear]

I don't know a single person who used Flash on their Android, I know a bunch who tried it and uninstalled it though (like me) Flash's popularity is grossly exaggerated

On a phone I agree. On Tablet, I think I'd rather see some flash.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I wouldn't say it's an option when you have Android phones that won't last all day with light usage. Now if these phones I'm talking about shipped with 2 batteries and a charger that can charge the phone + extra battery at the same time. You might be right, but for my EVO customization was absolutely necessary. I have met people who always carry around 2 spare batteries for their phone, that's retarded.

If battery life matters to you why did you get a old phone with a slow, power hungry SoC, that is notorious for poor battery life? The Nexus S 4g is also available on sprint and should have far better battery life.

 

[ponyo]

If battery life matters to you why did you get a old phone with a slow, power hungry SoC, that is notorious for poor battery life? The Nexus S 4g is also available on sprint and should have far better battery life.

He would still bitch. Why he tortures himself and just not get iPhone4 only he knows. I wouldn't call EVO an old slow phone. It's excellent used phone to buy right now since people are dumping it for shiny just released Nexus 4g but EVO is anything subpar. Other than the screen and the gpu, EVO is just as good or better in lot of areas. Rom development on the EVO is mature and first class. I would take used EVO over Nexus S just due to bang for buck.

 

[yh125d]

I wouldn't say it's an option when you have Android phones that won't last all day with light usage. Now if these phones I'm talking about shipped with 2 batteries and a charger that can charge the phone + extra battery at the same time. You might be right, but for my EVO customization was absolutely necessary. I have met people who always carry around 2 spare batteries for their phone, that's retarded.

You're way overexagerrating. I've had an evo from day one and never had to use a second or extended battery. It was running stock os from day one til a couple months ago when I rooted and put on CM7. It was always on 40% brightness, push notifications for mail/fb, and the only thing I ever did to improve battery life was install advanced task killer and set it to kill every 30min.

Never did I not get a full days of moderate use out of it. couple hours music, some angry birds, 30-60m web browsing on 3g, etc...

In fact the only times it ever died on me was when I went out drinking til 6am and it had been off charger since that morning

 

[Puddle Jumper]

He would still bitch. Why he tortures himself and just not get iPhone4 only he knows. I wouldn't call EVO an old slow phone. It's excellent used phone to buy right now since people are dumping it for shiny just released Nexus 4g but EVO is anything subpar. Other than the screen and the gpu, EVO is just as good or better in lot of areas. Rom development on the EVO is mature and first class. I would take used EVO over Nexus S just due to bang for buck.

The weak gpu is why I called the SoC slow, thanks to the Adreno 200 it's much weaker as a whole than something like Hummingbird.

 

[ponyo]

The weak gpu is why I called the SoC slow, thanks to the Adreno 200 it's much weaker as a whole than something like Hummingbird.

Yeah but I haven't really seen any great game that takes advantage of the superior gpu. But Im not really much of a gamer. Im happy playing RBI Baseball and Galaga on the NES emulator.

 

[Ns1]

You're way overexagerrating. I've had an evo from day one and never had to use a second or extended battery. It was running stock os from day one til a couple months ago when I rooted and put on CM7. It was always on 40% brightness, push notifications for mail/fb, and the only thing I ever did to improve battery life was install advanced task killer and set it to kill every 30min.

Never did I not get a full days of moderate use out of it. couple hours music, some angry birds, 30-60m web browsing on 3g, etc...

In fact the only times it ever died on me was when I went out drinking til 6am and it had been off charger since that morning

friend with 3 batteries says he's not overexagerrating.

 

[Red Storm]

friend with 3 batteries says he's not overexagerrating.

I'd say he is.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

The weak gpu is why I called the SoC slow, thanks to the Adreno 200 it's much weaker as a whole than something like Hummingbird.

People like to cite the GPU as the issue, but that's only an issue if he's gaming. Angry Birds doesn't really require anything more than an Adreno 200, or it shouldn't at least. If an old iPod Touch 1G can run it fine with its craptastic GPU, why is Hummingbird necessary.

We're talking day-to-day use. If the EVO is slow, it's not really because of the GPU. After all, Windows Mobile phones are buttery smooth and fast on Adreno 200s.

 

[Ns1]

I'd say he is.

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