"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[waggy]

bwhahahah

keep it going. some of you are looking like major idiots.


oh my god! htey fumbled more after they went to other teams! noooo! lol

 

[waggy]

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What's funny is that of 0 of the Colts balls were out of spec and the balls were measured immediately at half time. That meant that the COLTS balls were over inflated. It is an absolute fact that all the balls would have been 1 - 1.8 pounds lower at Half Time. That means either the NFL adjusted for the loss in pressure for all the balls when doing the half time measurements or the COLTS balls were overinflated to not have been out of spec.

not true at all. Again it depends on where they inflated them and how they were kept.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Seriously with your bias it's time you pull away from the thread. This team is infallible in your eyes

Bias? You post FUD and get counter posts with data showing your post is incorrect but you keep on posting.

 

[SP33Demon]

bwhahahah

keep it going. some of you are looking like major idiots.


oh my god! htey fumbled more after they went to other teams! noooo! lol

23% over 7 years is an absolute advantage and has been proven statistically significant, to dispute such findings are hilarious.

Also, only beta chumps use non-confrontational passive language like "some of you". There's a reason God built you the way you are and me the way I am.

 

[KeithTalent]

Also, only beta chumps use non-confrontational passive language like "some of you". There's a reason God built you the way you are and me the way I am.

Lol wtf are you talking about?

KT

 

[cubby1223]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-...uchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

Now it's just not "the biased Patriot hating" Tony Dungy complaining of the illegal formations of the Patriots, the NFL is making official statements now.

Speaking to reporters on Thursday, the NFL's vice president of officiating Dean Blandino explained why the Patriots had an illegal formation on the play when Solder recorded his first NFL catch and first NFL touchdown in the same play against the Colts in the AFC title game.

Sure the Patriots didn't need the illegal formations to beat the Colts, but they absolutely needed the illegal formations to win against the Ravens.

"Maybe those guys got to study the rule book and figure it out. We obviously knew what we were doing"

 

[TheSlamma]

Bias? You post FUD and get counter posts with data showing your post is incorrect but you keep on posting.

Right.. so the Pats balls were deflated by the temperature but Indy's stayed to regulation. Did those "scientists" explain why ones teams balls deflated and the other didnt? The answer is NOPE they just call it a "loose end" in the FUD article that bias cheatriot lover is sharing.

 

[waggy]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-...uchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

Now it's just not "the biased Patriot hating" Tony Dungy complaining of the illegal formations of the Patriots, the NFL is making official statements now.



Sure the Patriots didn't need the illegal formations to beat the Colts, but they absolutely needed them to win against the Ravens.

that's weird. they came out saying it was legal too.

 

[waggy]

Right.. so the Pats balls were deflated by the temperature but Indy's stayed to regulation. Did those "scientists" explain why ones teams balls deflated and the other didnt?

This has been adressed several times in the damn thread.

lol

 

[purbeast0]

bwhahahah

keep it going. some of you are looking like major idiots.


oh my god! htey fumbled more after they went to other teams! noooo! lol

this is the only reason i keep coming back to this thread, to see all of the idiots and non-football people arguing over this shit lol.

has kept me very entertained over the the past 2 weeks during downtime at work. keep it up idiots!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Right.. so the Pats balls were deflated by the temperature but Indy's stayed to regulation. Did those "scientists" explain why ones teams balls deflated and the other didnt?

Yawn, do you know where those balls were inflated to what psi, what process was used to prepare the balls, etc... Looks forward to your link that shows it.

 

[purbeast0]

whoops nm!

 

[TheSlamma]

Yawn, do you know where those balls were inflated to what psi, what process was used to prepare the balls, etc... Looks forward to your link that shows it.

well they were not taken into the bathroom on the indy side that is for sure.

 

[Capt Caveman]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-...uchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

Now it's just not "the biased Patriot hating" Tony Dungy complaining of the illegal formations of the Patriots, the NFL is making official statements now.



Sure the Patriots didn't need the illegal formations to beat the Colts, but they absolutely needed the illegal formations to win against the Ravens.

"Maybe those guys got to study the rule book and figure it out. We obviously knew what we were doing"

One illegal formation not formations but keep on spreading FUD.

 

[Capt Caveman]

that's weird. they came out saying it was legal too.

The formations against the Ravens were all legal and I already debunked the FUD.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-...uchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

Now it's just not "the biased Patriot hating" Tony Dungy complaining of the illegal formations of the Patriots, the NFL is making official statements now.



Sure the Patriots didn't need the illegal formations to beat the Colts, but they absolutely needed the illegal formations to win against the Ravens.

"Maybe those guys got to study the rule book and figure it out. We obviously knew what we were doing"

Wrong again.

Since then there have been other issues with the substitutions taken which I haven't seen the NFL respond to. I posted a link earlier. The formations are legit and the substitutions are valid in regards to the players initially coming on the field and registering eligible or ineligible but Dungy raises concerns that the protocol for successive plays was not followed.



I haven't dug into that part of the rule book so I won't venture a guess if Dungy is right/wrong but it is an issue being raised.

Note I am not anti-Belichick on these exotic formations. I like the change of pace deception.

That's completely incorrect. Dungy is an idiot and hater. If you note, he was corrected in that article over another illegal play that he thought NE used against his own Colts.

Patriots’ receiver-eligibility tactic could catch on

The first two times the Patriots used the tactic, Vereen and Hoomanawanui, came off the field on the following play. The third time, a penalty allowed Vereen to stay on the field for the next play.

Dungy should retire from being an analyst.

 

[TheSlamma]

One illegal formation not formations but keep on spreading FUD.

I agree!! I've never seen a single play turn a game around. Just ask my Browns "The Fumble" or ask Dallas "the Catch"

Nope never in the history of the world has a single play changed a game.

 

[TheSlamma]

The formations against the Ravens were all legal and I already debunked the FUD.



That's completely incorrect. Dungy is an idiot and hater. If you note, he was corrected in that article over another illegal play that he thought NE used against his own Colts.

Patriots’ receiver-eligibility tactic could catch on



Dungy should retire from being an analyst.

So can we file "FUD" under Capt Caveman like McOwned's "Bridge to sell" now? overused, worn out and unoriginal as hell?

 

[CZroe]

Right.. so the Pats balls were deflated by the temperature but Indy's stayed to regulation. Did those "scientists" explain why ones teams balls deflated and the other didnt? The answer is NOPE they just call it a "loose end" in the FUD article that bias cheatriot lover is sharing.

I just explained how for the umpteenth time in post 700. I shouldn't have to explain it even once, but it seems that the world is full of blind idiots.

Let me put it in a way your simplistic mind can understand: their balls had already dropped in pressure when they were initially inspected before the game. They were likely filled to spec in conditions closer to what they were to experience during the game which would lead to less deflation by already being exposed to the same or similar conditions.

Go go, gadget BRAIN!

 

[Capt Caveman]

I agree!! I've never seen a single play turn a game around. Just ask my Browns "The Fumble" or ask Dallas "the Catch"

Nope never in the history of the world has a single play changed a game.

:biggrin: You did watch the game and know what the score of it was, right?

I'm guessing you're not complaining about any defensive holding calls that weren't called, etc...

 

[cubby1223]

The formations against the Ravens were all legal and I already debunked the FUD.

Wrong again.

That's completely incorrect. Dungy is an idiot and hater. If you note, he was corrected in that article over another illegal play that he thought NE used against his own Colts.

Patriots’ receiver-eligibility tactic could catch on

Dungy should retire from being an analyst.

Yes, we all have received the message, you are a devoted Patriots fan.

 

[Capt Caveman]

So can we file "FUD" under Capt Caveman like McOwned's "Bridge to sell" now? overused, worn out and unoriginal as hell?

Actually, you, Cuddy, SpeedDemon(???) should be called the FUD gang.

 

[emperus]

Absolutely NOT true. While it is true that they were exposed to the same conditions after being inspected by officials, there are many factors leading up to that you have failed to consider. For one: they could have already cooled or been exposed to those conditions before their initial inspection before the game. Hell, they could have even been topped off again once cooled. They could have been at the opposite end of the range (13.5 PSI). They could have been filled with cool air in the first place and allowed more time to cool before inspection (pressurization with environmental air proportionally raises temperature relative to the environmental air outside).

The Pats, preferring a ball on the low end of the range, would have done the opposite, such as inflating to the low end of the range (12.5 PSI) while warm and keeping them warm until pre-game inspection, filling them with warm air to begin with and not allowing much cooling time before inspection.

I can't believe how many times I have had to explain this. Does no one think critically anymore?! The world isn't as simple as you want it to be. We know that the rules were changed in 2006 to allow them to tailor the balls to the QB's preference and this is the kind of tailoring they were talking about. Duh.

Well the lack of critical thinking would have to be on your end in this circumstance. You are missing the fact that the balls sat in the complex for 2.5 after being checked by the Refs.

So..
The Refs checked the balls and they were all between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI. The balls sat in the complex for at least 2.5 hours before the game began. If the Colts balls had been at 13.5 PSI because of initially being inflated in cold weather, they would have inflated due to the temperature inside and outside the ball reaching equilibrium which would be the temperature inside the complex. If they were 13.5 as you stated the colts like the ball it would have inflated past the 13.5 PSI once the air warmed up. Thus being overinflated. (Same concept of pumping hot air into the ball to make an underinflated ball legal at ball check in). Agree or Disagree?

The balls deflated by an average of 1.8 PSI (HeadSmart Labs) due to the rain and cold. Unless the NFL let the balls reach equilibrium inside then the Colts balls were either overinflated to stay in the range or somewhat underinflated as well.

Math -

Based on the HeadSmart Labs, the average PSI drop was 1.8 PSI

13.5 PSI - 1.8 PSI = 11.7 PSI
11.7 PSI < 12.5 PSI (the low range of acceptable ball PSI)

So, tell me how the Colts balls were not under the range or not initially overinflated if the Refs didn't let the balls reach equilibrium inside the Complex before testing.

Disclaimer: I'm an Engineer so rely on math and science. So, the only facts I trust are the calculated numbers people have put out on PSI drops due to ideal gas law.

 

[TheSlamma]

I just explained how for the umpteenth time in post 700. I shouldn't have to explain it even once, but it seems that the world is full of blind idiots.

Let me put it in a way your simplistic mind can understand: their balls had already dropped in pressure when they were initially inspected before the game. They were likely filled to spec in conditions closer to what they were to experience during the game which would lead to less deflation by already being exposed to the same or similar conditions.

Go go, gadget BRAIN!

Likely filled to spec.. I'll file that under ASSumption

Brain has tone.. I got a lock.. FIRE!!! it's a hit!

 

[TheSlamma]

Well the lack of critical thinking would have to be on your end in this circumstance. You are missing the fact that the balls sat in the complex for 2.5 after being checked by the Refs.

So..
The Refs checked the balls and they were all between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI. The balls sat in the complex for at least 2.5 hours before the game began. If the Colts balls had been at 13.5 PSI because of initially being inflated in cold weather, they would have inflated due to the temperature inside and outside the ball reaching equilibrium which would be the temperature inside the complex. If they were 13.5 as you stated the colts like the ball it would have inflated past the 13.5 PSI once the air warmed up. Thus being overinflated. (Same concept of pumping hot air into the ball to make an underinflated ball legal at ball check in). Agree or Disagree?

The balls deflated by an average of 1.8 PSI (HeadSmart Labs) due to the rain and cold. Unless the NFL let the balls reach equilibrium inside then the Colts balls were either overinflated to stay in the range or somewhat underinflated as well.

Math -

Based on the HeadSmart Labs, the average PSI drop was 1.8 PSI

13.5 PSI - 1.8 PSI = 11.7 PSI
11.7 PSI < 12.5 PSI (the low range of acceptable ball PSI)

So, tell me how the Colts balls were not under the range or not initially overinflated if the Refs didn't let the balls reach equilibrium inside the Complex before testing.

Disclaimer: I'm an Engineer so rely on math and science. So, the only facts I trust are the calculated numbers people have put out on PSI drops due to ideal gas law.

ohhhhhhhhhh Snapple!

You are bringing science and math in.. how is unfrozen caveman lawyer going to understand this strange world we now live in.

 

[Ban Bot]

What's funny is that of 0 of the Colts balls were out of spec and the balls were measured immediately at half time. That meant that the COLTS balls were over inflated. It is an absolute fact that all the balls would have been 1 - 1.8 pounds lower at Half Time. That means either the NFL adjusted for the loss in pressure for all the balls when doing the half time measurements or the COLTS balls were overinflated to not have been out of spec.

Oh sweet irony!

Hilarious after all the whining about the Pats being unfairly persecuted based on questionable facts--when the only important fact is their balls were underinflated during the game--and yet have no problem making stuff up and accuse their opponents of cheating. Too rich!

Hint: it is a reported fact the Indy balls were within tolerance 2 hours before the game and at halftime. Which is an important element to the New England narrative that they filled their balls started off warmer and were filled indoors with warm air while the Indy balls were filled outdoors (I don't see it confirmed but it sounds like in a service shed).

Jim Irsay demands an apology! :awe:

Too funny how you deflect from the fact the Patsy balls were underinflated but it somehow becomes fact the Colts were cheating with overinflated balls when both measurements & the "conditions" where their balls were completely contradict the assertion.

Where is the popcorn? I already said I don't think the Pats deflated the ball (only prepped) but after all the convincing scientific arguments showing no needle was needed that if the ball boys breaks down and admits he did it SNL style With all the QBs having come forward admitting they deflated in the past it would be an absolute CIRCUS! Not fun for Pat fans but MUCH more interesting than Beast Mode refusing to talk with beat reports and then making pretty coin doing Skittles and Progressive commercials and doing hilarious Connan spots.