"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

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should pats lose their spot to colts in the superbowl?

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CZroe

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Your critical thinking cap is broken and you are wearing your gullible panties today. If the Colts inflated to a regulation 13.5, then by that experiment their balls would have been under the legal limit as well. The laws of physics apply to both teams. Yes, keep pwning us, please. Like Arnold said: "He is like a child, and I am his father."
You don't know when they were inflated, what temperature the air was where they were inflated, how long they were inflated before the initial measurement by the officials, how long they took to take the later measurements after the Patriots, etc. Their quarterback likes them tight, so they could have been inflated with cold air outside and handed off to the officials right away, for all you know.
 

waggy

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HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/25/nfl-bears-plenty-of-blame-for-deflategate/#comments



HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH


HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH

OMFG, this case is falling apart SO FUCKING QUICKLY. I'm sure the patriots haters, the media, and the NFL will issue a QUICK and FORCEFUL apology after this is all done. *CRICKETS*

You fuckers should be lining up to suck Belichick's GIGANTIC INFLATED BALLS :D



so there wasn't 12 balls 2 lb's under. they had 1 ball 2 under and a few 1 under...

yeah..


wait. i'm reading the NFL set a trap for NE. so they let NE go out and play with balls they knew were off for the first half? or what is the trap?
 
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BUTCH1

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"The NFL has yet to share specific information regarding the PSI measurements of the balls that were confiscated and measured at halftime. "...kinda says a lot about how Goodell is even more of a lying POS than we already knew of, it's HIM that needs to get shit-canned, not BB or Brady.
 

BeeBoop

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so there wasn't 12 balls 2 lb's under. they had 1 ball 2 under and a few 1 under...

yeah..


wait. i'm reading the NFL set a trap for NE. so they let NE go out and play with balls they knew were off for the first half? or what is the trap?


If true, they probably did it on purpose to hype the game. I'll admit that it was funny while it lasted so I'm not apologizing. Lol
 

BoomerD

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I still say that, while this had NOTHING to do with the huge defeat the Colts suffered in last week's AFC Championship game...(they were badly out-played and out-coached) it's still cheating. There is NO FUCKING WAY Brady and the Pats didn't know about this...and I HIGHLY doubt Belichick didn't know either.

It's past time for the NFL to provide and control the balls used in the games.
 

BUTCH1

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I still say that, while this had NOTHING to do with the huge defeat the Colts suffered in last week's AFC Championship game...(they were badly out-played and out-coached) it's still cheating. There is NO FUCKING WAY Brady and the Pats didn't know about this...and I HIGHLY doubt Belichick didn't know either.

It's past time for the NFL to provide and control the balls used in the games.


I guess you haven't been keeping up with the events and information that have come forward in the last 24 hours, turns out only ONE of the balls was 2 lbs PSI off the other 10 were only off by 1lb, the NFL has not revealed the exact figures but some information was leaked. Also independent laboratories have confirmed that a cold, wet, ball may read a lower PSI once it's been out in the elements for hours. Long story short Goodell thought he was going to catch the Pat's in a "sting" that is now in the process of blowing up in his face. It doesn't help his case when the balls were brought up to spec at halftime and all Brady did was go 9/9 and the Pat's rattled off 28 unanswered points.
 

waggy

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I guess you haven't been keeping up with the events and information that have come forward in the last 24 hours, turns out only ONE of the balls was 2 lbs PSI off the other 10 were only off by 1lb, the NFL has not revealed the exact figures but some information was leaked. Also independent laboratories have confirmed that a cold, wet, ball may read a lower PSI once it's been out in the elements for hours. Long story short Goodell thought he was going to catch the Pat's in a "sting" that is now in the process of blowing up in his face. It doesn't help his case when the balls were brought up to spec at halftime and all Brady did was go 9/9 and the Pat's rattled off 28 unanswered points.

The accusation of a sting is what gets me. did the NFL know before hand? or hear of it? or what?

then did they let the pats go out until someone complained? if so people should be pissed at goodell.

this really makes no sense.
 

Grooveriding

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As someone who doesn't know anything about or enjoy this game, can anyone explain why it's called football ? It's primarily played with your hands, not your feet. Shouldn't it be called handball ? Or was the idea to ripoff the name of the actual game of football in hopes of riding on the coattails of the biggest and most watched sport in the world ?
 

Phokus

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Your critical thinking cap is broken and you are wearing your gullible panties today. If the Colts inflated to a regulation 13.5, then by that experiment their balls would have been under the legal limit as well. The laws of physics apply to both teams. Yes, keep pwning us, please. Like Arnold said: "He is like a child, and I am his father."

lol the colts inflated in an outdoors uninsulated shed. You also have no idea what they did to prep the balls. And again,

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/25/nfl-bears-plenty-of-blame-for-deflategate/

The other 10 balls that reportedly were two pounds under may have been, as the source explained it, closer to one pound below 12.5 PSI.

Get REKT
 

purbeast0

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As someone who doesn't know anything about or enjoy this game, can anyone explain why it's called football ? It's primarily played with your hands, not your feet. Shouldn't it be called handball ? Or was the idea to ripoff the name of the actual game of football in hopes of riding on the coattails of the biggest and most watched sport in the world ?

why is baseball called baseball? its primarly played with a glove and a bat and the hands. shouldnt it be called gloveball, batball, or handball?
 

zerocool84

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As someone who doesn't know anything about or enjoy this game, can anyone explain why it's called football ? It's primarily played with your hands, not your feet. Shouldn't it be called handball ? Or was the idea to ripoff the name of the actual game of football in hopes of riding on the coattails of the biggest and most watched sport in the world ?
Google
 

Grooveriding

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Just seems silly to call it football. It's also one of the few sports, the other being baeball, that fat overweight guys can still play at a professional level. I just don't get this game. It's the only sport I've seen where there are more advertisements and down-time during the length of a game than there is actual playing of the game. Such a snoozefest.
 

purbeast0

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Just seems silly to call it football. It's also one of the few sports, the other being baeball, that fat overweight guys can still play at a professional level. I just don't get this game. It's the only sport I've seen where there are more advertisements and down-time during the length of a game than there is actual playing of the game. Such a snoozefest.

seems silly for someone to keep coming back to a thread about a subject that they don't care about, yet here you are continuing to do so. sounds like you make great use of your time.
 

BUTCH1

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The accusation of a sting is what gets me. did the NFL know before hand? or hear of it? or what?

then did they let the pats go out until someone complained? if so people should be pissed at goodell.

this really makes no sense.

Apparently Harbaugh was pissed at Brady's comments following the Ravens loss, "we know the rues, maybe they ought to spend some time studying them" so he tipped off the Colts and the leauge who planned to check PSI on the balls even before the game started. What a sad-sack IMO when it was BB's recommendation that helped him land the job at Baltimore, he's a two-faced whiney bitch IMO, if he was confused about the formations the Pat's were using he had the option of calling a TO and get the matter corrected with the Ref's rather than waltz on the field like a F-ing primma-donna and cost his team a 15yrd USC penalty.
 

BoomerD

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I guess you haven't been keeping up with the events and information that have come forward in the last 24 hours, turns out only ONE of the balls was 2 lbs PSI off the other 10 were only off by 1lb, the NFL has not revealed the exact figures but some information was leaked. Also independent laboratories have confirmed that a cold, wet, ball may read a lower PSI once it's been out in the elements for hours. Long story short Goodell thought he was going to catch the Pat's in a "sting" that is now in the process of blowing up in his face. It doesn't help his case when the balls were brought up to spec at halftime and all Brady did was go 9/9 and the Pat's rattled off 28 unanswered points.

Kraft and Goodell are reputed to be pretty close friends. I just don't see Rodger Dodger trying to catch the Pats in a sting. PERHAPS some lower-level mudge in the NFL...perhaps, but NOT Rodger Goodell.

IMO, (based on just a smattering of reading...and I'm NOT a science guy) NOTHING is completely settled about temps having a major impact on the PSI of the balls.

http://www.popsci.com/football-physics-and-science-deflategate

Could that account for some of the loss in pressure? Of course, even a non-science guy like me will admit that...hell, my truck has TPS...and on cold mornings, the sensors tell me tire pressure is low...even though no gremlins have snuck in and (slightly) deflated my tires...but do I believe that's the cause of this? Nope. Not at all. Belichick has a history of cheating...and I honestly believe the Patriots are guilty. Proof or "scientific evidence" be damned.
 

cubby1223

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I just realized tonight...

I want Deflate-Gate to be real because it would make it such a perfect end to an absolutely wretched season filled with so much shit (concussion revelations, Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, but mostly the concussion situation... being in Chicago, watching a team not give a shit about playing the game, close proximity to Detroit watching Suh violently going after QB heads, standing on Rogers ankle - no suspension for any of them) that it's getting more and more embarrassing to set time aside to watch games (of which I've watched by far the fewest number of games this season than any year since probably 10 years ago when in college without tv service). This all would be much easier for this to be that moment to kick the football addiction.

I'm not interested in the Super Bowl, I'm not interested in the commercials.
 
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smackababy

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Bill Nye stepped in it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bill-nye-belichick_n_6542312.html

That's unfortunate as HeadSmart Labs (Carnegie Mellon affiliated) already did an experiment backing up the PSI drops due to temperature/conditions.

Here is the problem, Nye doesn't say shit about weather conditions. If Bill Nye actually wants to claim that climate has zero to do with PSI, he is a fucking idiot. All I can find is him saying rubbing the balls won't lower the PSI, which is also not entirely true. If you were to stretch the leather due to playing, the PSI would change. How much? Likely, not 1+PSI, but it would change it.
 

BeeBoop

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lol Bill Nye. They cheated, BilliCHEATED. Just admit it already and be done with it. GAWDD
 
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Chocu1a

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Why do people call these scandals "?"-gates? I understand that it is a play on "watergate", but watergate was the the name of a hotel. It wasn't a scandal involving water. Just a really annoying thing.
 

BUTCH1

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lol Bill Nye. They cheated, BilliCHEATED. Just admit it already and be done with it. GAWDD

I don't think so, first the Pat's asked the officials to inflate them to 12.5 PSI which they probably gladly did since they were under instructions from the league office to try and "catch" the Pat's tampering with the balls anyway, then it's leaked that only ONE of the 11 balls were 2 PSI off, the rest it was leaked were only off by 1 PSI. Sorry, cheating or scandal not found. Furthermore after adding the extra 1 PSI at halftime Brady was 9/9 and the Pat's rattled off 28 unanswered points, 'nuff said.
 

CZroe

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Why do people call these scandals "?"-gates? I understand that it is a play on "watergate", but watergate was the the name of a hotel. It wasn't a scandal involving water. Just a really annoying thing.

Because it mockingly elevates the scandal to that level.
 

CZroe

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Yup bill offered no experiments to back up his goofy video then blurts out at the end GO HAWKS!, he comes across as a complete moron IMO.

Well, the Hawks are on a 1516 game peer-reviewed hot streak, so it looks like he did his research.
 
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