"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[IronWing]

i still believe that if this was any other team no one would care at all

Nobody really cares at all. However, poking Pats fans has proved to be good sport and so will continue.

 

[BUTCH1]

i still believe that if this was any other team no one would care at all

Probably true, current NFL QB's like Stafford have said that the 2 PSI made zero difference in the feel of the ball but since the media loves a good story with a villainous coach everyone already hates, ESPN go's out and gets guys like Mark Brunell and Jerome Bettis for videos claiming that the 2 PSI deflation was a "huge" advantage for the Patriots which is laughable as proven by Brady's numbers in the 3rd Qtr, 9/9 with fully inflated balls now in place. Not an excuse for breaking the rules one bit, but them insinuating the game was won because of the under-inflation just makes it look like ESPN is looking to further the controversy (and their viewers) for their own financial gain.

 

[twofastxtreme]

I doubt much punishment will come out of this.

 

[Phokus]

i still believe that if this was any other team no one would care at all

That's already proven to be the case: Panthers heating balls on the sideline, Aaron Rodgers saying he likes to overinflate balls past the allowable spec, and recently the browns got busted by the NFL for using illegal communications equipment, but i guarantee you almost nobody in this thread knows about it because they aren't real football fans.

Tony Romo pretty much agrees with you: This is really only a 'scandal' because it's the Patriots and they've won so much:

http://www.nj.com/super-bowl/index....as_big_because_patriots_have_won_so_much.html

The New England Patriots ought to find a way to get Dallas Cowboys star Tony Romo on their PR team.

OK, so that would be tampering, but the Pro Bowl quarterback would fit right in.

The morning after Patriots coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady denied knowing how 11 of their 12 AFC Championship Game footballs lost air last weekend, Romo stuck up for a long-time NFL powerhouse that is being accused of cheating.

"I do think that we also want to talk about them because it's the Patriots," Romo said Friday morning on ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike show. "I do think whenever you're on top for so long, if you do anything ...

"If it's the president, if it's that's even anything remotely questioned, it's going to be 10 times as big as so other guy somewhere else across the country. So it's a thing. We're going to talk about it. It's about the integrity of the game and blah, blah, blah. But I also feel like we're really going to another level because it's this team that has been so successful and they're trying to just bring 'em down as well."

The Patriots have won three Super Bowls and lost two with Brady, but they were previously caught illegally videotaping the Jets' defensive signals during a September 2007 game, which led to the organization losing a first-round draft pick and being fined 200,000, plus Belichick being fined $500,000.

Stiffer penalties could be forthcoming this time for the Patriots.

"They'll do their investigation and they'll come up with what they come up with, and we'll know what happened," Romo said.

Here's how Romo picks out his game balls:

"It really comes down to your staff that you have behind the scenes, your equipment room guys. 'I like them out there for about a quarter or a half a practice, and I'm, 'OK that's good.’ I just don't want them exposed to a rain day or a really hot day where it's 100 degrees now and people basically have sweat on them for two hours, things like that where the ball can change.

"You go through the balls and you pick out 12 for the game and you go to your equipment manager and he gives them to the ref. And from there you don't see them until 5-10 minutes before the game. And then at that point, it's up to your ball boys. Those are people that are on your team and those are the guys that you go over and see before the game. You might throw a ball or two, and that's kind of how the process goes."

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Romo did seem to suggest that he thinks Belichick is innocent.

"I do think that our head coach doesn't have anything to do with the footballs on game day," Romo said. As far as the ball situation, I don't have a great answer for it. I do think you have to question the ball boys. And it usually comes back to the quarterback."

That would be Brady.

"I haven't seen exactly what he said," Romo said. "I know the whole situation and there's a lot involved in what actually happened. To me, the discussions really go right to the people they're talking to."

 

[Capt Caveman]

He explains very clearly what he believed the Patriots were doing illegally while substituting eligible and ineligible receivers on offense.

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/26_2012_Official_CaseBook.pdf


It's not a matter of a "NE hater" or not, it's a matter of playing by the rules everyone has to play by. I guarantee you the NFL will make several things the Patriots are doing explicitly illegal before next season begins.

NFL has already ruled that what NE was doing was legal with their subsitutions. So, both Dungy and you are wrong.

And in regards to football, why weren't the Vikings and Panthers penalized for altering game balls during a football game but everyone believes that NE should be penalized?

NFL aware of game ball incident during Panthers-Vikings

As both teams dealt with the freezing temperatures, Fox cameras showed sideline attendants using heaters to warm up game balls, which is against league rules.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Belichick is having a press conference right now. He's explaining the process that they go thru in preparing the balls.

Belichick learned the process that occurs and replicated it this week. Learned that the balls are rubbed up and from the process, it warms the football and raises the football 1 psi. When the balls are given to the refs, the refs adjust the balls to the 12.5 psi and after leaving the balls outside, the psi dropped by 1.5 psi in them.

 

[purbeast0]

haha this is awesome. this is such a fucking non issue, but this presser is awesome. i love how he flat out told the process they did and their findings.

it sounds like a 5th grader talking about how his bicycle works.

"first i press the pedal, and the chain starts to move, which makes the wheels start to turn..."

lol.

i love how he says how embarassed he is talking about this shit and spending all this time on this stupid bullshit and he's not a scientist.

 

[Capt Caveman]

haha this is awesome. this is such a fucking non issue, but this presser is awesome. i love how he flat out told the process they did and their findings.

it sounds like a 5th grader talking about how his bicycle works.

"first i press the pedal, and the chain starts to move, which makes the wheels start to turn..."

lol.

i love how he says how embarassed he is talking about this shit and spending all this time on this stupid bullshit and he's not a scientist.

And all of the physicists that have chimed in on the subject could easily explain why the balls lost pressure.

 

[purbeast0]

And all of the physicists that have chimed in on the subject could easily explain why the balls lost pressure.

hahaha the Q/A right now with the media is hilarious. god damn BB is awesome.

love how he's basically telling the media people that these questions they are asking as dumb as shit.

 

[Capt Caveman]

hahaha the Q/A right now with the media is hilarious. god damn BB is awesome.

love how he's basically telling the media people that these questions they are asking as dumb as shit.

His answer to the rubbing process, "we're not polishing fine china here."

 

[Phokus]

Belichick is having a press conference right now. He's explaining the process that they go thru in preparing the balls.

Belichick learned the process that occurs and replicated it this week. Learned that the balls are rubbed up and from the process, it warms the football and raises the football 1 psi. When the balls are given to the refs, the refs adjust the balls to the 12.5 psi and after leaving the balls outside, the psi dropped by 1.5 psi in them.

That was the best fucking press conference ever. Belichick has brass fucking balls and he teabagged all those reporters LOL

 

[Perknose]

And in regards to football, why weren't the Vikings and Panthers penalized for altering game balls during a football game but everyone believes that NE should be penalized?

Because the league office knows this is an overblown, media-driven controversy concerning a raft of technically illegal ball-altering practices that any number of teams have been indulging in, in one form or another, for years now.

Nevertheless, the NFL honchos are gutless politician (redundant, I know) types who will now "preserve the integrity of the game" by sanctioning the Patriots with some combo of fines and/or confiscated draft pick(s).

I used to be a passive passenger on the "Belichick hater" bandwagon, but I got over it.

^^^ Oops, posted all this before reading the last few posts thus before being made aware of Belichick's latest presser.

 

[Capt Caveman]

That was the best fucking press conference ever. Belichick has brass fucking balls and he teabagged all those reporters LOL

Definitely, his best press conference ever. He did the job the NFL hasn't done after 40 interviews and 6 days, big FU to the league and haters. Then when that one reporter brought up spygate, his response was awesome.

 

[Ns1]

need video of this nao.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12LqN6S5zm0

 

[Phokus]

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA


FYI, Tom Curran is the reporter who brought up spygate in the press conference, LMAO

 

[purbeast0]

why dont you fix your post so it doesn't make the thread scroll horizontally since this forum uses shitty software?

 

[fridgers]

@Phokus thanks asshole now I can't read the thread on mobile.

 

[Phokus]

@Phokus thanks asshole now I can't read the thread on mobile.

ok fine, fixed

 

[BUTCH1]

Definitely, his best press conference ever. He did the job the NFL hasn't done after 40 interviews and 6 days, big FU to the league and haters. Then when that one reporter brought up spygate, his response was awesome.

Agree, he came across as genuine in he reporting the findings of varying ball pressure and how by rubbing the balls to get the sheen off them does excite the air molecules and can cause a spike in pressure. If they prepped the balls by vigorous rubbing then asked the officials to set the pressure @12.5 the combination of the air "settling down" after the prep-job AND the much lower temperature the balls were sitting in for hours would probably cause a low reading. Also loved the response to the spygate question, "the signals are being given in front of 80,000 people, our signals are being given in front of 80,000 people, get it?. This is the reason the whole spygate ordeal was the most overblown deal, yea, the Pat's were taping from the sidelines and it was against the rules, but only a moron of a defensive Co. would keep using the same signals every game.

 

[KlokWyze]

What a dumb fucking story. Most of you people are beyond fucking stupid for being obsessed with whatever the media will shove down your throats. GO SPEND TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY OR SOME SHIT. Jesus. Christ.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Everybody on earth pretty much feels the same way, which begs the question yet again of WHY are they cheating? They're good enough to win, why do they do things like this?

Because on any given day a good team can lose to another good team. New England didn't know they were going to win so easily, hell they almost lost to Baltimore and probably felt it was worth the risk.

 

[LegendKiller]

This whole thing is so fucking contrived. A bunch of NE haters combined with the media salivating for any shred of a angled story makes for a moronic saga of unending retardedness.

 

[BUTCH1]

Because on any given day a good team can lose to another good team. New England didn't know they were going to win so easily, hell they almost lost to Baltimore and probably felt it was worth the risk.

1st off no wrongdoing has been proven by the NFL, your "assuming" the Patriots deflated the balls even though BB just did a press conference with a pretty good explanation IMO of why PSI readings can vary. 2nd, the Ravens match up well vs the Pat's, have won playoff games before in NE and Flacco is usually a lights-out QB once he's in the playoff's, Indy, not so much, they are an improving team that goes deeper in the playoff's every year with a great young QB who will only get better as time goes on. That being said they have yet to play the Patriots either at home or in Foxborough and be competitive, the Pat's fear and respect the Raven's ability to beat them, Indy, NO, there would be no reason the Pat's would think that Indy would knock them out of the playoff's, specially playing at NE.

EDIT: ESPN page on BB's presser and poll on weather he sounded believable, currently 73% yes, 27% no.http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12222029/bill-belichick-says-new-england-patriots-followed-every-rule-preparation-footballs

 

[KeithTalent]

hahaha the Q/A right now with the media is hilarious. god damn BB is awesome.

love how he's basically telling the media people that these questions they are asking as dumb as shit.

Yeah, so awesome. I love that guy.

KT

 

[Pacfanweb]

This whole thing is so fucking contrived. A bunch of NE haters combined with the media salivating for any shred of a angled story makes for a moronic saga of unending retardedness.

Pretty much. FAR more is being made of this than is warranted, and it's solely because it's the Pats/Belechick/Brady. If it was Manning and Denver, it'd be a non-issue.

Here's the deal: Yeah, it might be against the rules, but so are a lot of things that players/teams have done over the years.

Remember when players used to use silicone or other lubes on their jerseys, particularly D-linemen, so the O-line couldn't get a hold of them? NFL outlawed that. Players did it anyway, so they assigned someone to go through the locker rooms and check the jerseys.

That's all that'll come of this. The NFL will probably just take over the footballs and not let the teams have them until the game. It's no bigger deal than that.

The deflated balls made no difference in any game. The Pats actually scored more in the second half, when the balls had been fixed. And the Pats using deflated balls certainly didn't cause Indy to only score 7 all game, either.