"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[smackababy]

Ah, the old "you're a virgin" argument. Man, I remember that one. It was real effective, and then I turned 12.

 

[emperus]

ESPN pays him to write for them but tell us how much you disagree. The desperation in this forum by fanboys like the one above is rich. Writing whatever rigmarole you wrote in all caps only conveys that... you've never actually touched a woman. In fact, next time you write a woman on website Plenty of Desperation, be sure to type in all caps to her about the Pats. She'll be so impressed by your devotion to TB12 (whom you've never met but swear you will someday) that she'll promptly reply with her address to fuck.

Honestly. You should probably take some time, read through the ruling, come to your own conclusions, then make up your own mind. It seems you come to some emotion based ill thought out conclusion and try to find something to confirm it. That's why you generally post garbage from people like Munson and then get pummeled on this forum.

 

[BUTCH1]

ESPN pays him to write for them but tell us how much you disagree. The desperation in this forum by fanboys like the one above is rich. Writing whatever rigmarole you wrote in all caps only conveys that... you've never actually touched a woman. In fact, next time you write a woman on website Plenty of Desperation, be sure to type in all caps to her about the Pats. She'll be so impressed by your devotion to TB12 (whom you've never met but swear you will someday) that she'll promptly reply with her address to fuck.

What in the fuck are you talking about, I'm 57 dude, get a grip of yourself, I type in caps to emote the unmitigated delight to see ESPN, their legal "expert",(who was in fact, disbarred) and the rest of the NFL's legal team take a Louisville slugger right up the pie-hole. Did Brady deserve punishment?, yes, a fine, if that. I've seen some of your other post's in this thread and it seemed like you live in a plastic bubble. After the first public water-boarding of Nash in court you post "everything going as planned for the NFL". I think you lack the ability to discern how badly this went for Goodell, for unknown reasons.

 

[BUTCH1]

Honestly. You should probably take some time, read through the ruling, come to your own conclusions, then make up your own mind. It seems you come to some emotion based ill thought out conclusion and try to find something to confirm it. That's why you generally post garbage from people like Munson and then get pummeled on this forum.

He was one of those "foaming at the mouth" to see Brady go down, pays little, if any attention to the facts surrounding today's outcome then try's to troll me with utter nonsense. Haters can fuck off now, YOU LOST, BA-HAHAHAHAHA.

 

[LegendKiller]

Took a page from Goodell's book from past Patriot scandals, destroy the evidence.

Evidence is not destroyed if you can subpoena it and get it directly from the phone company, which they can. However, they cannot get non-material info, like they can if he handed over the phone. Lawyers would do e-discovery and if they are found to not turn over everything they can be held in contempt and disbarred. A much higher burden of proof.

That is why not turning over the phone is a sideshow. Everybody knows it is a bullshit excuse. Everybody.

Why do you think hillary clinton had her "staffers" "pro-actively" "archive" the emails and then mysteriously "wipe" the server? 1. It wasn't directly under subpoena (technically), it was never touched by an attorney, and now you can't go back and claim contempt.

Howevwr, national phone companies don't destroy documents in mere months.

If you think that he was hiding actual evidence of wrongdoing you are a fucking moron who has no grasp of the legal process.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Took a page from Goodell's book from past Patriot scandals, destroy the evidence.

haha what?

what scandals are you talking about? destroying what evidence?

 

[Phokus]

Took a page from Goodell's book from past Patriot scandals, destroy the evidence.

Incorrect, stop believing what ESPN tells you (they don't even vet their sources). Brady provided his cell phone text messages to Wells and Wells told Brady he didn't need to keep his cell phone.

 

[Phokus]

You guys are silly, this case is far from over. In fact, there is still a good chance the NFL will win the appeal according to ESPN's legal analyst.


I'm more interested how this will affect fantasy prospects. Only person I'm drafting will be Blount, especially with Lafell all fucked up and Edelman one concussion away from becoming the next Wes Welker.

You're retarded, Lester Munson predicted it wouldn't go to court, predicted the judge wouldn't hear the case, and predicted brady would lose. Also, IIRC, he predicted Peterson and the Saints would lose in court as well (they didn't). The NFL is 0-5 in court cases.

Also, everyone read Sp33demon's posts from earlier on in this thread, they're fucking retarded (because he's a retard)

 

[Capt Caveman]

A good article - The arrogance of Roger Goodell

 

[Phokus]

Holy fuck, Goodell actually suspended Jonathan Vilma for 16 games (of course overturned because Goodell is an asshat/loser) that's even more insane than what he did to Brady:

Goodell: 0-5 (0-8 if you count the Saints separately)

 

[Phokus]

LMAO, Judge Berman put a poison pill in his ruling by not ruling on several other issues, if the NFL's appeal is 'successful', it will go back to Berman and he can rule against the NFL on those issues as well:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ans-ruling-may-contain-a-warning-for-the-nfl/

 

[edro]

Tom ain't winning any court case in the foreseeable future.

All you Brady lovers need to accept reality, he cheated and he's fucked.
hahahahahaha

This is a slam dunk court case for the NFL, Brady needs to drop it so his franchise can move on.

Brady will not win in a NY court where the NFL just filed...

At this point it's like Pats fans are running around chasing their tails looking for some way tom can wriggle out of his suspension. Let's face it, get on the bad side of the NFL and you're toast. It doesn't matter what you think, if their kangaroo court says you are suspended, you will be suspended. A federal judge isn't going to save you

Checking back in, looks like things are going as planned. Goodell/NFL always win.

You guys are silly, this case is far from over. In fact, there is still a good chance the NFL will win the appeal according to ESPN's legal analyst.

:biggrin:

 

[glenn1]

:biggrin:

Sp33d is approaching "eits talking about RG3" levels now.

 

[waggy]

:biggrin:

hahahah

 

[Phoenix86]

Sp33d is approaching "eits talking about RG3" levels now.

He easily equaled that with the "if their kangaroo court says you are suspended, you will be suspended. A federal judge isn't going to save you" quote. I mean even if you thought the case against Brady was strong, it's historically moronic to make this statement.

I forgot about Vilma and Hargrove, what a clusterfuck.

 

[Phokus]

:biggrin:

LMAO Sp33demon got dick slapped hard. What a bitch.

 

[Anubis]

A good article - The arrogance of Roger Goodell

I like that one

its also pretty sad that's people dislike of the pats/brady (for whatever reason) is overshadowing the blatant abuse of power/rules/bullshit the NFL is trying to pull

 

[emperus]

LMAO, Judge Berman put a poison pill in his ruling by not ruling on several other issues, if the NFL's appeal is 'successful', it will go back to Berman and he can rule against the NFL on those issues as well:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ans-ruling-may-contain-a-warning-for-the-nfl/

That's hilarious. While on the run this AM, procesing my random thoughts. I especially thought about this. I was wondering since the judge didn't rule on those issues. And if the NFL did appeal, would they be appealing the specific issues that the judge ruled on (notice, not allowing Pash and Wells report Notes) or could the appeals court take a fresh look at all the issues the NFLPA raised.

If PFT is correct, then it may even turn out worse for the NFL as it seemed Berman (now that we know that the court transcript did mirror his thoughts on this case) would have ruled for the NFL on all of the issues they raised. And I think Goodell would be an even bigger loser if the judge found him to have been "evidently partial".

Interesting indeed.

 

[emperus]

I like that one

its also pretty sad that's people dislike of the pats/brady (for whatever reason) is overshadowing the blatant abuse of power/rules/bullshit the NFL is trying to pull

Good summation of the whole incident.

 

[cabri]

I think Judge Berman laid out legal points that the NFL could not refute in a challenge within his ruling.

As to the poison pill

Appearing at the top of the last full page of the 40-page ruling is the list of claims from Brady and the NFL Players Association that Judge Berman saw no need to address, including:
(1) whether Commissioner Roger Goodell was “evidently partial” in presiding over the appeal of Brady’s suspension;
(2) whether Goodell’s conclusions regarding Brady’s knowledge of and involvement in the alleged deflation scheme exceeded the findings of the Ted Wells report; and
(3) whether Goodell undermined his competency to serve as arbitrator by publicly praising the work of Ted Wells.

The three listed could be claimed as subjective (biased) and not actually have a legal basis against the NFL.

But by bringing these issue up in the ruling; he seems to be letting the NFL/Goodell that other judges could take a look at these additional issues if the overall dispute arrived on their laps.

The NFL could claim bias for one judge, but not for all three - that will not fly for a second set of appeals.


Below is the quoted page in entirety

a) Brady argues that Commissioner Goodell was "evidently partial" within the meaning of 9
U.S.C. § I O(a)(2), contending, among other things, that "a central ground of [his] appeal
was the issue of Goodell improperly delegating to Vincent his exclusive authority to
discipline players for conduct detrimental to the NFL." Def.'s Countercl. '1[165.

b) Brady argues that "Goodell purports to sustain the suspension on factual conclusions that
Brady participated in ball tampering- but those factual conclusions [that "Mr. Brady
knew about, approved of, consented to, and provided inducements and rewards in support
of a scheme by which, with Mr. Jastremski's support, Mr. McNally tampered with the
game balls"] appear nowhere in the Wells Report and were not the basis for the discipline
imposed by Vincent." Def.'s Countercl. '1[126. Brady contends that "Judge Doty's
ruling in Peterson makes clear than an Article 46 arbitrator lacks CBA authority to justifY
discipline on a basis not found in the discipline being appealed." !d. (citing Adrian
Peterson, 2015 WL 795253, at *6).

c) Brady also argues that "prior to serving as hearing officer, the Commissioner publicly
lauded the reliability of the Wells Report [which was conducted by NFL retained
counsel]- the issue at the very heart of Brady's appeal." This "locked him into
supporting the Wells Report and rendered him incapable of reaching a contrary
conclusion in Brady's appeal, as doing so would undermine his own competency as
Commissioner."

 

[CZroe]

Rely on it how? Are they going to stop wearing helmets while playing? Purposely run into walls? Lol.

At the very worst they're going to shell out a few bucks for some water that they likely would have spent on Gatorade or soda anyway. This attempt to impugn someone else to distract from your own guys' actions are honestly a little sad.

LOL! People with safety equipment play harder just like people in safer cars take more risks (drive faster; stop later) and people in more fuel-efficient cars drive more (early Prius stats). This provides a FALSE sense of safety. That is dangerous.

Someone who might have decided that playing wasn't worth the risk of injury might continue playing and get injured thanks to this placebo. Someone who would have sought treatment for an injury may chose to play through it thanks to this placebo. Someone who would avoid taking the full force of a seriously hit may now pursue such a dangerous hit thanks to this placebo.

I could go on, but we've already established that you are an idiot.

 

[soulcougher73]

:biggrin:

PWNT

 

[Ackmed]

While I believe either Brady or someone there definitely did cheat, I am glad to see this over turned. I hate the commish, and think he tries to use his power too much. He is so much overpaid it is crazy. Nobody likes him, players do not trust him, glad he lost.

 

[BUTCH1]

:biggrin:

Thank you, dude's a complete fucking tool.

 

[mzkhadir]

I think 85 pages to talk about someones balls is way too long and homophobic.