"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[Phoenix86]

I'm pretty sure someone joked that the "deflator" was being called that for some silly reason other than deflating balls, like tires, despite the obvious context to deflating footballs.

Well...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...deflator-because-he-was-trying-to-lose-weight

In a text message sent to Jastremski, McNally referred to himself as the "deflator." Yet, according to the Patriots, there's a simple explanation for McNally's nickname. They claim it has nothing to do with deflating footballs, and instead, they claim it has everything to do with McNally wanting to lose weight.

 

[edro]

^ Plausible... especially if he specifically used that term in an earlier text about weight loss.
I have seen enough criminal TV shows to know that a mountain of circumstantial evidence doesn't prove guilt.

 

[cabri]

^ Plausible... especially if he specifically used that term in an earlier text about weight loss.
I have seen enough criminal TV shows to know that a mountain of circumstantial evidence doesn't prove guilt.

The problem is that this does not have to be a legal situation.
Burden of proof does not apply

It is a blessed vendetta by NFL management against a thorn in their side

 

[Phoenix86]

^ Plausible... especially if he specifically used that term in an earlier text about weight loss.
I have seen enough criminal TV shows to know that a mountain of circumstantial evidence doesn't prove guilt.

There's a list, 1-8. What you and I get in a court of law for crimes is 8, beyond a reasonable doubt. 6 is used for civil trials, preponderance of the evidence and what the NFL uses because of that.

The standard is met if the proposition is more likely to be true than not true. That's why Wells uses a similar line.

So... Occam's razor, and it doesn't cut the way you suggest.

 

[Ban Bot]

I was reading that this morning. The Patriots have stated he is called the deflator because he is fat. And the faux ESPN threat was over shoes. Never mind the comments about needles, 16psi, etc. Nothing to see here, move along.

The Pats totally have the equipment guys' backs! They totally believe the stuff they are selling.

Oh wait, they were fired.

 

[lupi]

Yeah heard someone talk about that yesterday, if everything was as innocent as they claimed how come they had a suspension dropped on them so quickly, and now fired.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yeah heard someone talk about that yesterday, if everything was as innocent as they claimed how come they had a suspension dropped on them so quickly, and now fired.

Except they're not fired.

 

[Cal166]

 

[BUTCH1]

I'm pretty sure someone joked that the "deflator" was being called that for some silly reason other than deflating balls, like tires, despite the obvious context to deflating footballs.

Well...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...deflator-because-he-was-trying-to-lose-weight

In a text message sent to Jastremski, McNally referred to himself as the "deflator." Yet, according to the Patriots, there's a simple explanation for McNally's nickname. They claim it has nothing to do with deflating footballs, and instead, they claim it has everything to do with McNally wanting to lose weight.

Here is the link to the Patriots rebuttal of the Well's report, very, very interesting indeed. Now I'm beginning to wonder if the league did in fact have an agenda, they were told before the game that the Pat's were possibly were tampering with the ball but were this sloppy about handling said balls pre-game?. Two different gauges that gave different readings used?, Well's insistence on saying the 2nd (higher-reading) gauge was used before the game despite andersons "best recollection" that the lower-reading gauge was the one he used?, Mcnally asking and being given permission to take the balls out of the locker room and walking right past several league officials without being stopped and asked what he was doing?. Many valid points raised in the rebuttal and this thing is a LONG way from being resolved.

 

[lupi]

Except they're not fired.

numerous sites say they have been, sure you have a better source.

 

[Capt Caveman]

numerous sites say they have been, sure you have a better source.

The NFL - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492185/article/tom-brady-suspended-4-games-plans-to-appeal

"Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent," the league's statement reads.

Find one article that states that they were fired and not suspended.

 

[lupi]

The NFL - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492185/article/tom-brady-suspended-4-games-plans-to-appeal



Find one article that states that they were fired and not suspended.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/92214/...ver-deflategate-now-claim-theyre-innocent.htm

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...the-guys-theyre-passionately-defending-today/

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/the-pat...they-re-passionately-defending-today-2210925/

http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/patriot...they-were-backing-up-today-in-their-rebuttal/

http://boston.suntimes.com/new-engl...-the-guys-theyre-passionately-defending-today

http://rsie.net/nfl-news-ne-patriot...i-in-deflategate-now-claim-they-are-innocent/

 

[Capt Caveman]

http://www.hngn.com/articles/92214/...ver-deflategate-now-claim-theyre-innocent.htm

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...the-guys-theyre-passionately-defending-today/

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/the-pat...they-re-passionately-defending-today-2210925/

http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/patriot...they-were-backing-up-today-in-their-rebuttal/

http://boston.suntimes.com/new-engl...-the-guys-theyre-passionately-defending-today

http://rsie.net/nfl-news-ne-patriot...i-in-deflategate-now-claim-they-are-innocent/

And all of them state:

“Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th,” the league’s release last week read.

So, they are as stupid as you. Suspended does not mean Fired. Was Adrian Peterson fired by the Vikings when he was indefinitely suspended without pay?

Stupid Jet's fan...

 

[BUTCH1]

And all of them state:



So, they are as stupid as you. Suspended does not mean Fired. Was Adrian Peterson fired by the Vikings when he was indefinitely suspended without pay?

Stupid Jet's fan...

I think his point is if your defending them as hapless shmucks who's text's were misinterpreted by the Well's investigators why would you need to "suspend" them, they could be offered jobs that do not involve handling footballs.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I think his point is if your defending them as hapless shmucks who's text's were misinterpreted by the Well's investigators why would you need to "suspend" them, they could be offered jobs that do not involve handling footballs.

No, that wasn't his point. Remember, Kraft initially said he would accept the initial report and punishment by the NFL which included the indefinite suspension of those two and can't be reinstated without the NFL's approval. But based on the punishment, they have decided to refute it which doesn't mean that they can reinstate these two employees without the NFL's approval.

 

[slayer202]

Goodell is presiding over the appeal?! So fucking ridiculous. Even if he wants to play good guy and tries dropping the suspension to 1 or 2 games, I don't think that's gonna fly with Tom and his lawyers. MAYBE one game to just make it go away? I smell blood

 

[emperus]

Goodell is presiding over the appeal?! So fucking ridiculous. Even if he wants to play good guy and tries dropping the suspension to 1 or 2 games, I don't think that's gonna fly with Tom and his lawyers. MAYBE one game to just make it go away? I smell blood

The NFL union is so weak. How is the commissioner of the NFL the one who hears the appeal.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Goodell is presiding over the appeal?! So fucking ridiculous. Even if he wants to play good guy and tries dropping the suspension to 1 or 2 games, I don't think that's gonna fly with Tom and his lawyers. MAYBE one game to just make it go away? I smell blood

Just like Jonathan Vilma, after Goodell denied the appeal, Brady's lawyers like Vilma's will take it to Federal Court where they'll win and in the meantime during this Federal Appeal, Brady will be allowed to play like Vilma.

 

[slayer202]

Just like Jonathan Vilma, after Goodell denied the appeal, Brady's lawyers like Vilma's will take it to Federal Court where they'll win and in the meantime during this Federal Appeal, Brady will be allowed to play like Vilma.

hopefully the end of this story is goodell getting his ass fired.

 

[videogames101]

hopefully the end of this story is goodell getting his ass fired.

whether you like brady or not, we can all agree about one thing: fvck goodell

 

[JEDI]

Goodell is presiding over the appeal?! So fucking ridiculous. Even if he wants to play good guy and tries dropping the suspension to 1 or 2 games, I don't think that's gonna fly with Tom and his lawyers. MAYBE one game to just make it go away? I smell blood

hahahahahahahahaha
good joke.

wait.. you're not joking?

the guy who handed the 4 game suspension to Brady is going to be the one to decide on the appeal?

I can see a scenario where Goodell actually increases the penalty.

hm.. did the PAts also appeal their fine and loss of 2 draft picks?

 

[Anubis]

whether you like brady or not, we can all agree about one thing: fvck goodell

yea one thing i think everyone can agree on is that Goodell/the NFL management really needs to get changed over

 

[emperus]

yea one thing i think everyone can agree on is that Goodell/the NFL management really needs to get changed over

I think he just handed the NFLPA a huge win. I don't think Joe Public is going to think it's fair that the person who handed out the fine gets to hear an appeal of it. I can't imagine what the NFL is thinking on this.

 

[techs]

I think he just handed the NFLPA a huge win. I don't think Joe Public is going to think it's fair that the person who handed out the fine gets to hear an appeal of it. I can't imagine what the NFL is thinking on this.

I don't know who is giving Goodall advice but they are blowing it big time.

It would seem that Goodall is desperate not to let an independent arbiter hear the case since him hearing it himself is so obviously foolish. He probably knows how weak the case is.

Roger Goodall Death Watch anyone?

 

[norseamd]

Wait so this massive fight over keeping the punishments until a court might overturn will lead to Goodell getting his ass a first grade sacking in the endzone?

Fuck the Patriots I hope they get screwed even more just to get Goodell gone forever.