Today sucks :(

[Turin39789]

we need an mspaint diagram of the scene STAT!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: lokiju
Waits for bike riders on this forum to tell you what an a-hole you are...

not a bike rider anymore, but what if it was a kid?

Another point for those trying to ban music from vehicles.

The music didn't affect him hitting the bike, it affected him immediately realizing he hit the bike....

the way i read it is that the biker and the OP were travleing in the same direction, OP goes to make right turn and biker goes to go around/pass in front of him and not behind

That's how I read it too. Which would make it the biker's fault, if there was no bike lane.

 

[FDF12389]

Bitch you owe me a bike.

 

[theeedude]

We bikers need your full attention on the road, thank you very much. Your coffee and music is not as important as someone's life.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: senseamp
We bikers need your full attention on the road, thank you very much. Your coffee and music is not as important as someone's life.

I knew it wouldn't take too long....

I love that bikers demand the respect of cars on the road, but then the majority of them are perfectly fine with illegally weaving through slower traffic, running red lights, turning without signaling, etc. It goes both ways.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

car beats bicycle. People on bicycles should be more careful. Complaining won't do them any good if they are dead.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: senseamp
We bikers need your full attention on the road, thank you very much. Your coffee and music is not as important as someone's life.

I knew it wouldn't take too long....

I love that bikers demand the respect of cars on the road, but then the majority of them are perfectly fine with illegally weaving through slower traffic, running red lights, turning without signaling, etc. It goes both ways.

i agree, lots of bikers are hit in Boston every year, mainily because they like to ride through red lights

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: senseamp
We bikers need your full attention on the road, thank you very much. Your coffee and music is not as important as someone's life.

I knew it wouldn't take too long....

I love that bikers demand the respect of cars on the road, but then the majority of them are perfectly fine with illegally weaving through slower traffic, running red lights, turning without signaling, etc. It goes both ways.

Well, the OP hit a biker, not the other way around. Also, bikers need to preserve energy, since we are the ones generating it, not an engine.

 

[Deeko]

As I said above, the situation here isn't entirely clear - but if it is as I read it, where the bike was illegally passing him when he hit him.....it's still the biker's fault. I don't understand what you mean about preserving energy. It's ok for a biker to break the law because they want to maintain a constant speed? I don't think that holds up in court. If you aren't in good enough shape to stop and start, well, maybe you shouldn't be riding a bike?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

unless im compleatly fucking this up the dude on the bike WAS riding with traffic

I just re-read the OP and I honestly can't tell which direction the cyclist was coming from actually. Can we get a clarification on that? Was he coming from your right or from your left?

I kinda doubt the OP could miss a cyclist hitting his Left fender since that would have been the direction he was watching for traffic from to make the Right turn.

That's why I assumed the cyclist was coming from his right.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

unless im compleatly fucking this up the dude on the bike WAS riding with traffic

I'm still confused. Even IF the bike was riding with traffic, bikes aren't allowed to just pass cars on the right because they want to. They are subject to the same laws as cars, they just get away with cruising between traffic, running red lights, etc. Of course if there was a bike lane on the right, that's a different story, but if it was just a standard road, the biker was completely at fault if he decided to pass a car on the right like that.

It's not really clear what happened from the OP though. Did he hit a guy on the road he was turning onto? Coming from the road he was on? Dunno.

If the cyclist was riding with traffic and was coming from the driver's left and the driver pulled out in front of the cyclist then I would say it's the driver's fault entirely. Obviously, if he was pulling out into traffic, there weren't any cars there, just the cyclist whom he didn't see.

Again, we need clarification on this.

 

[MiniDoom]

On a lighter note...I got a lol out of this.
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[mugs]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: TehMac
Bike riders are frickin assholes. Obviously, a few exceptions, I know a great guy, he rides bikes, but these morons think they own the road, it's really aggravating.

Good for you for reporting it.

So much for this thread remaining civil...:roll:

Let the bashing of cyclists begin.

Oh, one more thing: Cyclists have as much right to ride on the road as you have to drive on it. Learn the law and show a little patience, the 5 seconds you are inconvenienced might just save someone's life. :|

:thumbsup:

 

[mindmaniac]

I just about got hit on my bike today, but the guy who turned in front of me was a prick. The light was green and even the little walk signal was on. The guy sped up his white Acura and turned infront of me and if I didn't jam on my brakes would have either been on the front of his car or nailed the side. I yelled "what the hell", and he yelled out "it's called a fu&*ing sidewalk". I don't know what his problem was a empty road, did I mention with a bike lane. The jerk lives in my neighborhood, I just hope nothing happens to his precious Acura on night when it's parked outside.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: K1052
read the thread asshat

Let see, from the OP very own words:

...."I didn't even know it. Music was fucking blaring, didn't hear anything"....."I realized that I could have possibly hit him".........."admitted total fault - told her that I didn't check to the right of my car , and my music was blaring"....."Poor guy, victim of my gross negligence "

OP admitted that he didn't pay attention, music was loud, he didn't realize that he hit the biker..and admitted fault. What else do you want?


Follow your own advise..read the OP again.. asshat.

 

[sutahz]

YOu could have pulled over immediatly to get things done instead of going to the next light and pulling a U.
World is full of what if's and could have been's.

 

[sygyzy]

I give you credit for admitting fault and really coming clean too, not that BS half blame the victim thing.

 

[sygyzy]

What's with all the ATOT hate for bikers? Bikers, minorities, immigrants, liberals. Man!

 

[anxi80]

starbucks burns their beans and is way overpriced for the quality you get.




sorry, i just wanted to chime in with something to complain about and noticed just about everything else was taken except for starbucks. 😛

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Svnla

Originally posted by: K1052
read the thread asshat

Let see, from the OP very own words:

...."I didn't even know it. Music was fucking blaring, didn't hear anything"....."I realized that I could have possibly hit him".........."admitted total fault - told her that I didn't check to the right of my car , and my music was blaring"....."Poor guy, victim of my gross negligence "

OP admitted that he didn't pay attention, music was loud, he didn't realize that he hit the biker..and admitted fault. What else do you want?


Follow your own advise..read the OP again.. asshat.

You might have read the thread and understood that the most likely scenarios put the biker in the wrong. I'm sure the OP feels terrible and responsible though it doesn't really look like his fault from the information available.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Deeko
As I said above, the situation here isn't entirely clear - but if it is as I read it, where the bike was illegally passing him when he hit him.....it's still the biker's fault.

Ahem, that's not what the OP, who was there is saying:

I didn't know what to do - no witnesses. I phoned the police, a female cop came out and I explained everything to her, admitted total fault - told her that I didn't check to the right of my car , and my music was blaring.

I don't understand what you mean about preserving energy. It's ok for a biker to break the law because they want to maintain a constant speed? I don't think that holds up in court. If you aren't in good enough shape to stop and start, well, maybe you shouldn't be riding a bike?

It is OK at his own risk. Unlike cars, bikers are not likely to kill someone on impact. I am not saying it's not bikers fault if he gets creamed running a red light, but that's not the situation here. I run red lights after checking that there are no cars, sometimes I have to because red lights here are radar triggered and usually require a presence of a car in a lane because bike radar cross section is too narrow. Sometimes putting bike sideways in lane works, and sometimes it doesn't.
Mostly I have to deal with clueless drivers who completely ignore bikers. They make right turns over a bike lane even if there is a biker there, they pull out of driveways into bike lanes even if there is a biker there. Usually that means I take up a full traffic lane even if there is bike lane available just because drivers don't respect bike lanes as real lanes.

 

[TheNinja]

F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

 

[bonkers325]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You were making a right and the cyclist was coming from your right?

Dude, that's his fault. He shouldn't have been riding against traffic.

i totally agree with you. if you drive on the left lane, that is.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

Yes, we can do that, and no we don't have to decide. You have to share the road.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: TheNinja
F bikers. They want all the privledges of cars but also of pedestrians when it's convenient. They blow through stops signs and ride against traffic just like if they were walking, yet they also ride on the road and slow down traffic like slow vehicles and expect to be treated like a car. They need to decide one or the other, none of this combo platter hippie BS.

Yes, we can do that, and no we don't have to decide. You have to share the road.

While technically you can do that, it is illegal, and you won't have any sympathy from me I run your dumb ass over when you are breaking the law.