Today Britain votes on remaining part of the EU

[Blackjack200]

I think after today's result the EU needs some deep introspection followed up with some corrective changes. The remaining EU members need to really feel that the project delivers a better future for for those invested in it.

No soul searching need be done as a result of the impulses of a bunch of mouth breathers.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Being a savvy politician is realizing which way the wind blows, they were wrong.

I suppose if Obama took days or weeks studying the underlying problems and took polls to gauge English people opinions then came out with a well thought out position that was 100% undeniably correct you'd be happy with that? You wouldn't say he's too involved in Europe?
Or would it be better for him to spout out a constant stream of thought and take credit at the end like Trump or would you say he contradicted himself too much?
You hate Obama, that's fine you are entitled to that opinion but acting like Obama could ever please you with any decision is not being sincere. Silly little Obama snipes just cheapen your perspective.

 

[Artdeco]

I suppose if Obama took days or weeks studying the underlying problems and took polls to gauge English people opinions then came out with a well thought out position that was 100% undeniably correct you'd be happy with that? You wouldn't say he's too involved in Europe?
Or would it be better for him to spout out a constant stream of thought and take credit at the end like Trump or would you say he contradicted himself too much?
You hate Obama, that's fine you are entitled to that opinion but acting like Obama could ever please you with any decision is not being sincere. Silly little Obama snipes just cheapen your perspective.

I don't hate Obama, I'm a Democrat, and I voted for him 2x. One of my cousins is actually buds with Hillary. And everything he and Hillary do is poll driven or at least measured. The Brits were pissed he got involved in the first place.

Did I miss the memo that I have to agree with everything he does?

 

[Subyman]

I don't hate Obama, I'm a Democrat, and I voted for him 2x. One of my cousins is actually buds with Hillary. And everything he and Hillary do is poll driven or at least measured. The Brits were pissed he got involved in the first place.

Did I miss the memo that I have to agree with everything he does?

Wait so the US President's opinion is supposed to align with the constituents of another country?

 

[Artdeco]

Wait so the US President's opinion is supposed to align with the constituents of another country?

He should have remained aloof and not gotten involved, it looked like a 50/50 that his choice would be wrong.

 

[TheGardener]

Wait so the US President's opinion is supposed to align with the constituents of another country?

It's more like Obama may have tipped the balance to BRexit, by going over to the UK and telling them that they will go to back of the queue, if the UK doesn't do what he tells them to do. Right now Obama is probably thinking, that he didn't think this threat through.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

^^^you guys are so silly. Lets ask our English brothers.

Did Obama tilt leaving the EU vote to yes?

Or

Was it a minor footnote in the news and no fucks were given?


I'm so tired of everything has to do with Obama.

 

[rumpleforeskin]

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[rumpleforeskin]

^^^you guys are so silly. Lets ask our English brothers.

Did Obama tilt leaving the EU vote to yes?

Or

Was it a minor footnote in the news and no fucks were given?


I'm so tired of everything has to do with Obama.

Minor footnote, he is not European or British so his opinion counts for little

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's more like Obama may have tipped the balance to BRexit, by going over to the UK and telling them that they will go to back of the queue, if the UK doesn't do what he tells them to do. Right now Obama is probably thinking, that he didn't think this threat through.

So many things are obama's fault it's hard to keep track, but so far we have the following

and now we can add this

THANKS OBAMA!

 

[mikeymikec]

^^^you guys are so silly. Lets ask our English brothers.

Did Obama tilt leaving the EU vote to yes?

Or

Was it a minor footnote in the news and no fucks were given?


I'm so tired of everything has to do with Obama.

Minor footnote. If anything I'd say it was filed under the same vague crap that Cameron was pushing out (things like "we'd be safer" in a security context, or a throwaway line about helping to prevent terrorism), and I think most people saw it as Cameron saying to Obama "would you do me a favour and say this? It might help".

 

[TheGardener]

Minor footnote, he is not European or British so his opinion counts for little

Bill Clinton, while speaking on behalf of Hillary, reminded us that Obama is half Irish.

 

[Subyman]

He should have remained aloof and not gotten involved, it looked like a 50/50 that his choice would be wrong.

He gave his opinion relative to the US. He wasn't betting on the outcome lol, he was speaking to his opinion of the actual ramifications for leaving.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Minor footnote. If anything I'd say it was filed under the same vague crap that Cameron was pushing out (things like "we'd be safer" in a security context, or a throwaway line about helping to prevent terrorism), and I think most people saw it as Cameron saying to Obama "would you do me a favour and say this? It might help".

Thanks, one vote complete. Minor footnote but maybe a few fucks were given
Hopefully more will chime in.

 

[AtenRa]

This is a very resonable response. Hopefully the involved governments act as you hope.

I highly doubt they will, EU and Country leaders dont care about peoples needs and wants. Those people govern EU today have nothing in common with the ideas of a Federal European Union that will take measures for the good of all its people.

EU has become a Huge Cartel, managed by bureaucrats for the needs of big corporations situated in the middle and north of Europe.

 

[DeathReborn]

^^^you guys are so silly. Lets ask our English brothers.

Did Obama tilt leaving the EU vote to yes?

Or

Was it a minor footnote in the news and no fucks were given?


I'm so tired of everything has to do with Obama.

Obama didn't tilt it at all. All the foreign leaders etc did was tick off the British voters, the opposite reaction they hoped for, which just shows they don't understand the British people.

For the record I am half American & half British by birth but 100% English in spirit.

 

[PokerGuy]

No soul searching need be done as a result of the impulses of a bunch of mouth breathers.

Yeah, because when 52% of the voting population of a major country decide to leave the union in the face of potentially steep economic consequences, one should always just shrug it off by calling them "mouth breathers" and continue doing the same things that led to their exit. Surely that won't cause other countries to go the same route.

Are you just naturally this dumb or is it the result of years of practice?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Obama didn't tilt it at all. All the foreign leaders etc did was tick off the British voters, the opposite reaction they hoped for, which just shows they don't understand the British people.

For the record I am half American & half British by birth but 100% English in spirit.

We'll have to put a provisional ballot on yours but thanks for the input.

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

I have a crazy idea: What if some things were worth doing that were also costly economically?

 

[PokerGuy]

Obama didn't tilt it at all. All the foreign leaders etc did was tick off the British voters, the opposite reaction they hoped for, which just shows they don't understand the British people..

Huh? You're contradicting yourself. You say he didn't tilt it at all, but then say the foreign leaders (which would include him) ticked off the voters creating the opposite of what they were trying to achieve. So which is it, his comments had no influence, or his comments helped tick people off and make them more likely to vote "leave"?

My guess is obummer's comments had very little impact if any, but I'm not in the UK and I have no data backing up my guess.

 

[LegendKiller]

No soul searching need be done as a result of the impulses of a bunch of mouth breathers.

And this is why there is a Brexit. You simply cannot dismiss people out of hand and expect them to respect you regardless.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yeah, because when 52% of the voting population of a major country decide to leave the union in the face of potentially steep economic consequences, one should always just shrug it off by calling them "mouth breathers" and continue doing the same things that led to their exit. Surely that won't cause other countries to go the same route.

Are you just naturally this dumb or is it the result of years of practice?

This. The utter disdain and contempt the ruling class has for "commoners" is going to lead to their downfall.

I have said, all along, that the endgame of wealth aggregation and oligarchy is...what? You cannot blithely ignore the plebes forever before they say "fuck you".

Blackjack isn't better than them. He puts his pants on the same way. He exists on the same tiny rock spinning in space. You can either understand their perspective and try to meet them half way, or you can dismiss them and, since they vastly outnumber you, eventually they will run you under.

 

[Artdeco]

BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said Mr Obama's message on trade was "very blunt" and "really upped the ante" in the referendum debate.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36117907

Looks like the BBC thought he was rather blunt.

 

[BxgJ]

This is getting weird. Scanning headlines and I see some wanting London to leave the UK and join the EU....

 

[LegendKiller]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36117907

Looks like the BBC thought he was rather blunt.

He was. You can't go into your closest ally's turf and tell them to buck up and be Germany's bitch, or else, without ramifications.